Who is Yang? Who are the parents of Deirdre?

Adalbertus · May 19, 2003, 17:28

It just came to my mind: In the "official" description of the factions (to be found here on Poly), they give the birth dates of the faction leaders. Two of them are already among us:
Zakharov born in 1994
Yang in 1999
Who are they? What do they look like now?

Who could be father or mother of
Morgan (2005),
Lal (2006),
Miriam (2014),
Santiago (2026),
Roze (2027),
Aki (2028)?

Oh, and I have to get this wonderful French girl who looks like Deirdre (2025) and move with her to Scotland

. Her beauty (having brown eyes) would combine nicely with my blue eyes ... Would give a nice granddaughter (oh, hurry on).

And just another question:

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Used a trip to a conference in West Germany to transfer to the United Nations team responsible for developing planetside technology, ...

Just when did they plan to create the game? Before 1990? Or did they live behind the moon?

Adalbertus · May 19, 2003, 17:37

Oh, and please don't call a poster in this forum father of H'minee ...

Sikander · May 19, 2003, 18:28

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Originally posted by Adalbertus
And just another question:

Just when did they plan to create the game? Before 1990? Or did they live behind the moon?

They are probably talking about the period of the "second schism" of Germany, where East Germany wants to go back to "New Europe" and does so under a republican administration. A period of tension gives rise to the phrases "The Tin Curtain"(coined by an aged and retiring Tony Blair) and "The Chilly War". This period ends with the "Second Anchluss" and the formation of "Ever Greater Germany" (ImmerGrossDeutschland).

VJ · May 19, 2003, 19:19

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Oh, and I have to get this wonderful French girl who looks like Deirdre (2025) and move with her to Scotland . Her beauty (having brown eyes) would combine nicely with my blue eyes ... Would give a nice granddaughter (oh, hurry on).

It seems that you've got it all figured out, huh?

Mr. President · May 19, 2003, 23:05

They're not very important now - I'm older than they are!

Clear Skies · May 20, 2003, 15:41

Deirdre doesn't even SOUND Scottish...
And if I met four-year-old Yang I'd step on him. Hard. Zakharov I'd take home, keep as a pet and leech all his technological breakthroughs off him.

Lazerus · May 20, 2003, 19:10

You'd be shot before you got the chance

Yang will emerge in around 30-40 years when china begins to establish itself as a serious economic world power alongside the US

Adalbertus · May 21, 2003, 01:08

Clear Skies, be careful. Yang has 650000000 doubles by default. The Chinese look all the same (for my inexperienced eyes)

Lazerus · May 21, 2003, 12:03

Cybergod · May 21, 2003, 17:37

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Originally posted by Clear Skies
Deirdre doesn't even SOUND Scottish...

Yeah its a traditional Irish name - got me wondering aswell. And Skye is a tad bit unusual - why notname her O'Donnell or something?

Adalbertus you might have just contributed to the Apolyton site being blocked to its members in the far east...

Adalbertus · May 21, 2003, 21:07

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Yeah its a traditional Irish name - got me wondering aswell. And Skye is a tad bit unusual - why notname her O'Donnell or something?

Wouldn't even the English agree that Scottish and Irish is almost the same? McPatrick would do the trick.

Sikander · May 22, 2003, 01:48

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Originally posted by Adalbertus

Wouldn't even the English agree that Scottish and Irish is almost the same? McPatrick would do the trick.

Or perhaps O'McPatrick to be on the safe side.

Mr. President · May 22, 2003, 01:49

"Lady Skye" sounds a lot better than "Lady McKeown" or "Lady Durie".

Cybergod · May 22, 2003, 13:35

Googlie · May 23, 2003, 00:53

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Originally posted by Clear Skies
Deirdre doesn't even SOUND Scottish...

Och, laddie - there's a lot of Deirdres in Scotland

(Of course, they may be English)

G.

Googlie · May 23, 2003, 00:59

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Originally posted by Cybergod
And Skye is a tad bit unusual -

She's actually Zakharov's neice, Lydia Deirdresky, who camouflaged her name when she broke with her Uncle just prior to the Unity's destruction .......

from the recovered logs of the UNS Unity

Adalbertus · May 23, 2003, 02:09

(sounds a bit un-Russian, maybe she had Estonian ancestors)

Snowflake · May 23, 2003, 10:10

Oh Young lives next door. He is a very bright 4 year old. I don't know what exactly his parents do. I only know that they seem to be holding some important connections in the Chinese government. I have started to teach Young all the tactics I learned from SMAC. I'm sure he'll be very mature by the time they plan to move back to China (Last I heard they are planning to go back in 6 years).

Adalbertus · May 23, 2003, 12:53

O wait, he is the son of a colleague of mine? He and his wife left their son with his grandparents. Now they are earning a living in the USA after he had a postdoc position in Germany.

... Oh no, the boy must be older now.

Clear Skies · May 23, 2003, 17:25

I didn't mean the name didn't sound Scottish, I meant her in-game voice, doesn't sound even remotely Scottish...
And if she comes from Free Scotland, how soon are they getting independence?

Adalbertus · May 23, 2003, 18:24

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I didn't mean the name didn't sound Scottish, I meant her in-game voice, doesn't sound even remotely Scottish...
And if she comes from Free Scotland, how soon are they getting independence?

As soon as they stop pronouncing a rolling "r".

Clear Skies · May 24, 2003, 07:13

Hey, I like the Scottish accent!

PresidentMarcos · May 25, 2003, 15:09

Hmm...1. I think Yang was one of Deng Xioapang's numerous cousings...didn't you know Xioapang was a pervert? He enjoyed deflowering 12-year olds.

Sikander · May 25, 2003, 18:36

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Originally posted by PresidentMarcos
Hmm...1. I think Yang was one of Deng Xioapang's numerous cousings...didn't you know Xioapang was a pervert? He enjoyed deflowering 12-year olds.

"Hey, how was I to know she was 12? She swore to me that she was 13!"

PresidentMarcos · May 25, 2003, 19:52

Or was it Mao Zedong? Oh, wait...he enjoyed deflowerign flowers. That's why the flowers at his palace are so ugly.

Alinestra Covelia · May 31, 2003, 01:58

Just for the record, Chairman Yang looks like my grandfather, and my grandfather actually fled China as the Communists took over.

Xioapang? *scratch head* Never heard of him. Are you sure this is even a Chinese name?

[/irony]

Adalbertus · May 31, 2003, 16:56

Xioapang looks sufficiently Chinese for non-Chinese. In fact, there are rumours that Um Lei Tung is the Chinese minister of traffic - in Germany.

Alinestra Covelia · June 2, 2003, 10:58

The strange thing is that the Firaxis website has Yang as something of an imperialist, not a communist. He is security minister to the "Golden Emperor" (by the way, an astonishingly crap title - one that I don't think the Chinese would even consider) and disappears in the "Crimson Secession" (presumably some second Communist revolution).

If you look closely, Yang's preferences are for Police State, not Planned economics. This is in keeping with his authoritarian leanings. The real Communists in the game are Marr and H'minee, who favor Planned.

"OH NOS!!11!111! DuZ Tihs mEan daT Yang ain"T a Kommi?//?/?? TehN whO wiLL We gET to beAT On netX?!?!?!?!?1?"

Yes, I'm afraid it does. However, don't give up hope! Fortunately, Yang is Chinese, and as we all know, Chinese people/government/politics/freeze-dried-noodles are the root of all the modern world's evils, a la Clancy's The Bear and the Dragon, so obviously SMAC players the world over can heave a sigh of relief because we still have a good reason to hate Yang. ~ The end.

Jamski · June 2, 2003, 11:37

Eh? - But Yang is one of the good guys. MIRIAM is the evil one with her book of evilness and her evil evil religion

-Jam

Alinestra Covelia · June 2, 2003, 11:49

Speaking of the Crimson-Headed-Warrior: one of the pictures of her in the diplomacy comm display is actually quite photogenic. She's a late teen or young adult and she's making a kissy face at the screen. When I saw that, I remembered the manual saying she is charismatic and can attract and manipulate people.

Interesting to see that Firaxis put in a little kernel of personality continuity behind this usually-maligned leader.