STAVKA: Military Council of Commanders - Page 6

EZRhino · June 20, 2003, 19:17

Some of them spawn out in the open.

H Tower · June 27, 2003, 02:42

We're going to have a bit of a problem once the NorthWest Front captures Riga and the Baltic Front takes Talinin and Pskov. The area available for manuever against Germany shrinks dramatically.

Now, after consultation with the Assistant Director of the NKVD and my own ponderings, I've come up with the decision that we may want to combine the Baltic and North-West Fronts. As you can see from the map, space for 2 fronts between the Belorussian and Baltic Sea will be extremely limited.

This is only an idea though, I want to hear thoughts from all around on what to do. This is by no means an order and should be treated as if just a simple staffer had proposed it.

Henrik · June 27, 2003, 05:03

Quote:

Originally posted by yop73
It's an actual event. It disbands all Romanian infantery.

Actually it's both.
The event ensures that no new romanians are created as I recall.

We should wait untill the event itself can trigger imho...

Henrik · June 27, 2003, 05:07

As for the combination of the fronts, I'm not sure I like the idea, mainly becouse either Anzac or myself would find ourselves without a job just as things are getting interesting

Seriously though, couldn't the baltic front get Königsberg and the North Western front Kaunas-Vilnius?

The objective of the Baltic front would be to secure the coast while the North Western one would watch the inland...

Xenozod · June 27, 2003, 05:08

That is what I initially said in my report, but I think a combination of the two would work out better. I know H is working on a way to solve the job problem.

greeny · June 27, 2003, 05:41

Could we not just re-jig the fronts a bit once our big offensives in the North and South are done? Splitting the front into 5 rougly equal sectors. Renaming the NW front to 2nd belorussian perhaps.

The ANZAC · June 27, 2003, 10:45

yes, I think the southern front's do have more land compared to the Baltic/north-west fronts and a realignment is in order to fix everything up. Also in the south, they will soon gain more land when they enter into the Balkans and then their fronts will balloon in size.

2nd Byelorussian front...that has a nice ring to it

H Tower · June 27, 2003, 11:02

believe me, I'm not happy with what I suggested, but once Konisberg and Kaunas get captured, the ways into Germany shrink, maybe even to one.

Since between the two of you, at least one of you will be on vacation until the 22nd, we've got some time before we have to make a decision.

How viable would a Romanian Front be?

H Tower · June 27, 2003, 19:18

front command areas updated, see first post

Colwyn · June 28, 2003, 19:19

My troops and commanders were getting a bit tired with the same faces in the old cities, moving my HQ forward is good.

The ANZAC · July 19, 2003, 17:47

I am ready to command!

Seeing that the Rodina needs commanders has galvanized my zeal to the proletariat!

Edit: no more retirement, gotta kill some Nazis!

PinkyGen · July 28, 2003, 22:20

NW front plans of advance, a proposal:

A: Larger goals: To drive along the German coastline in conjunction with the Baltic front as far as Danzig. After Danzig, I will split off from Baltic Front forces and drive on the roads south from Bydgoszcz to Neustralitz.

I can only break off from Baltic after Danzig is captured, because their is only one real road network, as can be scene in the screenshot. It splits by Konigbserg and Kaunas, but unites in Danzig.

B: Initial plan I plan on capturing Konigsberg first, then Kaunas. The reason for this is that Kaunas is on a river, while Konigsberg is not, therefore it will probably be easier to take Konigsberg, while there is a greater chance I can get stalled outside of Kaunas because of the river (and the best to heal the units would then be all the way back in Daugavpils). Since it is winter, I need not worry too much about Konigsberg's weaker defenses, since the German's will not be able to quickly attack Konigsberg except through tanks (and possibly a naval cruiser or two). I can then use Konigsberg as a base to attack Kaunas in late winter or early spring. Simulteneously, I or or Baltic front could also use the city to attack Danzig as well.

Initial Plan, Four phases:
1. November-December: Move units to point 1 outside of Konigsberg. It is two spaces out from konigsberg, so I need not worry about infantry counter-attacks from the city, though a tank or two might be disconcerting. I am willing to move this staging point back one hex from Konigsberg if my more experienced comrade's feel this has been a problem in their winter campaigns.

2. December-January: Take Konigsberg.

3. Heal damaged units, while sending the remainder of the army to attack Kaunas or Danzig (probably Kaunas, I like keeping a tidy front). This can be simultaneous with phase 2, depending on how tough the Konigsberg defenses are. (Colwyn has found actual German cities seem to have light defenses).

4. Feburuary on: Exploitation.

Who really knows what the situation will be, but I said what my plans after Danzig are.

Additional notes: Besides hopefully repairing the road from Riga to Konigsberg

, I can only guess Baltic wants Konigsberg as well, so we might jointly assault that city. I'll take responsibility for Kaunas, with possible Baltic assitance if there is a problem, but I would like to do it out of Konigsberg rather than Daugavplis. Baltic may get ahead of me by attacking Danzig first. After that, I think will seperate more.

Any thoughs comrades? Advice, plans, opinions.

Colwyn · July 30, 2003, 01:46

Nice plan we'll both have to hammer Kaunas as its proving a tough nut to crack.

PinkyGen · July 30, 2003, 12:28

You've attacked it? If your are having problems, then I'll definetly take Konigsberg first so I can have a nearby place to refit the troops. Do not worry, those Germans will regret attempting to stand up to two of our mighty armies.

Henrik · July 30, 2003, 14:01

/me is worried there won't be any action left for him

H Tower · August 4, 2003, 16:31

Effective as of January 1943

Commanders
Marshal: Oleg Sorokin (HTower)
Murmansk Front: Anzakoyov (The Anzac)
Baltic Front: Kolja Henrikov (Henrik)
North-West Front: PinkyGenovitch (PinkyGen)
Belorussian Front: Pavlov Zangalis (Colwyn)
1st Ukrainian Front: Xenozodskyovitchkov (Xenozod)
2nd Ukranian Front: Patiskov Figiskovsky (FiGu)

Fronts Defined
Murmansk Front
Streches from Viipuri to Murmansk and includes convoy duty from the U.K. to Murmansk

Baltic Front
Defends Novgorod, Luga, Leningrad, Pskov, Tallinn, Riga

North-West Front
Defends Daugavpils, Vilnius, and Kholm

Belorussian Front
Defends Lodz, Warsaw, Bialystok, Brest-Litovsk, Poznan, Berlin, Potsdam

1st Ukrainian Front
Defends Kharkov, Belgorod, Kursk, Gomel, Bryansk, Poltava, Kiev, Lvov, Krakow, Lublin.

2nd Ukranian Front
Defends Perekop, Kerch, Sevestopol, Rostov, Kotelnikov, Stalingrad, Voroshilovgrad, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk and Galati.

STAVKA Is the Council of Front Commanders chaired by the Marshal and discusses matters of Grand Strategy involving matters concerning more than one front, reinforcement priorities and offensives.

SPECIAL
*Neustrelitz which is now under the command of the Belorussian Front will be transferred to the NorthWest Front effective when Bydgoszoz is captured by the NorthWest Front
*Konisberg and Danzig will be a joint command of the NorthWest and Baltic Fronts until Bydgoszoz is captured at which point the Baltic Front will assume control of Konisberg and Danzig while the NorthWest Front will be in control of Kaunas and Bydgoszoz.
*Lvov, Krakow, Lublin, and Kiev are being given to the 1st Ukranian, however the Belorussian front will not be allowed to remove the units it used in taking the cities, those are now under the command of the 1st Ukranian Front. All Belorrusian troops now in the vicinity of those cities are transferred to the 1st Ukranian Front.

Marshal's Note: I will of course be willing to listen to arguements, changes to this set up.

H Tower · August 4, 2003, 16:56

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=93209

Please visit the NKVD map thread for a discussion of where the fronts' lines of advance will be

PinkyGen · August 6, 2003, 21:49

I sent a telegram to the Armaments Minister on this issue, and he conveyed to me that I should bring this up at STAVKA.
I inquired into whether we would continue to produce Sturmovicks for the coming spring offensive. I could certainly use a few more of the glorious planes, I currently have two. Are there plans to change production to sturmovicks so we may use when the snow melts?
Also, is it worth it to build fighters, considering the pitiful state of the Luffwaffle.

H Tower · August 7, 2003, 01:06

The armaments minister should of course build units of the type requested by the various front commanders in areas where they can easily be brought to the front in a timely manner. If the NW front, or any other front wants Shturmoviks or Su-122 tanks or whatever built for their front, I would hope that they would be built.

The ANZAC · August 7, 2003, 09:47

Colwyn is leaving his front?! How come? I just read it in this Pravda issue

Colwyn · August 7, 2003, 19:10

Pavlov Zangalis became too popular in the soviet union with his success's and zeal for new medals, he often ignored orders not to attack. He lead the way to encourage others that the nazi's were not to be feared and retreated too.

His troops suspect a NKVD assassin.

PinkyGen · August 7, 2003, 21:09

So who is in command of Belorussian? Is it still Colwyn, but playing as a new "political" general suitable for the party?

Darius871 · August 8, 2003, 01:23

Comrade Marshal will not tolerate grandstanding, so I was asked to play.

FiGu · August 8, 2003, 05:07

LOL Darius! Nice avatar

Bossy20000 · August 8, 2003, 14:22

Is this already official? If so, I have to update my list! Please let me know!!!

PS I like your new avatar too, very nice

Darius871 · August 8, 2003, 14:53

Well, I couldn't find a Soviet unit I liked that wasn't taken, so just altered my avy. Not bad for 30 seconds' work.

Ben Kenobi · August 8, 2003, 15:41

Why not split the Finnish front for both the Baltic and Murmansk front?

That way we can put more troops to secure scandinavia.

EZRhino · August 21, 2003, 23:33

When do the Americans show up in Italy??

Colwyn · August 22, 2003, 00:24

Quote:

Originally posted by EZRhino
When do the Americans show up in Italy??

Not until 44, you should be able to clear the germans out before them and that is the task ahead of the commanders

H Tower · October 6, 2003, 18:52

I bid my Generals a fond farewell, and I leave you with just one request. Hunt down those damn Germans until not one dares pick up a rifle against us.

I am sure comrade Kleshnikov will do a fine job leading the Soviet Military onward to the victory we have worked so hard for. I have complete faith in him to bring about a Communist Utopia.