Hotseat games: Diplomacy

Alexander's Horse · May 26, 2003, 00:40

I'm playing my boy in a hotseat game and when we met the ai took over the diplomacy - my civ appeared to him as an ai civ. Same on my side.

Is this normal for hotseat games?

finbar · May 26, 2003, 02:14

That's my memory of Hot Seat games. When you're not in the chair, the AI is.

Alexander's Horse · May 26, 2003, 02:23

bizarre

finbar · May 26, 2003, 03:19

Yes, I thought so at the time. It's logical, though. It's the SP version of the game. There's no provision for more than one non-AI civ.

Ming · May 26, 2003, 03:55

Install a network in your house and play a MP game. Works better than hotseat games

Hydey · May 26, 2003, 06:16

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Install a network in your house and play a MP game. Works better than hotseat games

hey good idea

My 11 year old just started at civ again after his older brothers had convinced him that it was boring.

I could link up 2 of our computers and play him.

Hydey · May 26, 2003, 06:17

we may end up with a father and son comp.

Alexander's Horse · May 26, 2003, 06:40

father son? He attacked me straight off.

Hydey · May 26, 2003, 07:12

perhaps we would need the son to team up with the other father

DrSpike · May 26, 2003, 08:22

IIRC the interaction in hotseat games is like that in PBEM games. It is a rather clumsy way to play MP IMO..........but some people make it work.

Ming · May 26, 2003, 11:41

Making it "work" and doing it right are two different things

What fun is Diplomacy if the AI is making the decisions...

Flatlander Fox · May 26, 2003, 12:08

It's a load of fun when you manage to trade techs...

Then the other guy gets to the chair and realizes that you just got Invention for Mapmaking.

DrSpike · May 26, 2003, 12:32

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Making it "work" and doing it right are two different things

What fun is Diplomacy if the AI is making the decisions...

Exactly why I called it clumsy.

Alexander's Horse · May 26, 2003, 19:22

I dunno, its clumsy but we had a lot of fun. I especially enjoyed catching him trying to look at my screen. Its nice being in the same room.

When he saw my knights appearing in force near his capital he suggested we start another game

Ming · May 26, 2003, 19:29

Smart Boy

finbar · May 27, 2003, 00:03

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When he saw my knights appearing in force near his capital he suggested we start another game

Shades of Trev and Hydey.

Alexander's Horse · May 27, 2003, 00:41

Hydey · May 27, 2003, 06:38

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Shades of Trev and Hydey.

we all learn from the master

rah · May 27, 2003, 08:24

Hmm, so much for going easy on him.

I take it you're more of an old school kind of guy that doesn't feel the need to let the boy win for his self esteem.

RAH

Alexander's Horse · May 27, 2003, 09:02

We're playing for fun but he's learning too. I don't offer advice but I answer his questions.

Lesson 1: Humans play better than the ai. So don't attack them until ready. This lesson will be demonstrated rather than explained

finbar · May 27, 2003, 09:18

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Lesson 1: Humans play better than the ai. So don't attack them until ready.

Gee. More shades of Hydey and Trev. Got room on your other knee for Hydey?

Alexander's Horse · May 27, 2003, 09:29

You have to strike a balance between completely crushing the kid and thus his interest in the game, and making it too easy where he's sure to smell a rat.

You are right - This is something I learned from playing with Hydey.

*runs*

rah · May 27, 2003, 09:32

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You have strike a balance between completely crushing the kid and thus his interest in the game, and making it too easy where he's sure to smell a rat.

You are right - This is something I learned from playing with Hydey.

Yes it's always a tough balance. Something that I don't always succeed at, as demonstrated by my daughter's refusal to play me in certain games.

Makeo · May 27, 2003, 09:36

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Hmm, so much for going easy on him.

I take it you're more of an old school kind of guy that doesn't feel the need to let the boy win for his self esteem.

RAH

I played my dad in table tennis a couple of times a week for about 6 years before I won a game. It made it worth it.

Alexander's Horse · May 27, 2003, 09:38

He's been ruthlessly beating up his 6 year old brother in hotseat games.

rah · May 27, 2003, 09:45

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I played my dad in table tennis a couple of times a week for about 6 years before I won a game. It made it worth it.

We never did beat him. (of course when he got to old, he stopped playing) I agree, it makes it more worth it.

The current fashion of giving every kid participating trophies really sucks.

Makeo · May 27, 2003, 09:54

haha when i used to play football you would dread getting the encouragement award. rather get nothing.

rah · May 27, 2003, 10:07

My daughter has a whole box full of them. She won't display them due to her disdain for them, but she won't let me throw them out. I just don't see the point.

And it degrades actually winning. You get a trophy for winning and it doesn't seem to mean as much when EVERYONE else gets one.

The pussifying of America.

RAH

Ming · May 27, 2003, 10:33

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The pussifying of America.
RAH

Uhhh... Uhhhh... Uhhhh... Nahhhh... I won't go there.

But yeah, I wouldn't really care to get a 6th place trophy in a 6 person Civ Game

rah · May 27, 2003, 11:15

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But yeah, I wouldn't really care to get a 6th place trophy in a 6 person Civ Game

THe engraving would probably say.....YOU SUCK!

RAH