HELP!!!!! My son says he wants to join the US Military when he turns 17!!!!!!

[Shi Huangdi]

Checking Tassadar's profile, he has quite the interesting name:

First Name: Slavsyaotechesvanashesvobodnooye
Last Name: Braskiknarodovsoyuzvekovoy


Tell me, Slavs, does your kid ever get made fun of with the last name Braskiknarodovsoyuzvekovoy?

Hmmm, giving a rediculous fake name like that doesn't seem to me something like an adult russian man who immigrated to the US would do. That Fake name is just a cacophony of russian sounding parts of words. Sounds more to me like a kid who got caught up in the excitement of creating a fake russian persona.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
That Fake name

If only I had a copyright on this

[Shi Huangdi]

Ah I see, Mr. Information Minister of Logan. Rather than just making up a bunch of russian sounds, you copied and pasted the first two lines from the Russian National Anthem. That is much more typical of something a father of a 15 year old son just creating a new profile...


Hmmm... you birthday is in Dec. 31, 1969 according to your profile, making you around 33 years of age. 15 years of a son and then 9 months from then would make you about 18 when you had this son? Quite the young age to be starting a family, no?

[Kidicious]

I only got 10,000 for my GI Bill. Damn Tass you better sign your boy up. 50,000 is good money.

[Oerdin]

Just what you deserve, Tassador, for your anti-Americanism!


(P.S. It won't be as bad as you think it will be.)

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Hmmm... you birthday is in Dec. 31, 1969 according to your profile, making you around 33 years of age. 15 years of a son and then 9 months from then would make you about 18 when you had this son? Quite the young age to be starting a family, no?

Yes. And obviously the Russian anthem was my name

Shi, do you honestly believe I'm some 5-15 year old American mormon child pretending to be an adult on internet forums ALL DAY simply wasting time by debating about politics?

[Edan]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi

Hmmm... you birthday is in Dec. 31, 1969 according to your profile,

He's a unix file, isn't he?

[Spiffor]

Tass :

This is horrible and I feel your pain.

While I agree with H Tower that your son must be in his rebellious years and that it should abate at some point, I'd however encourage you to take steps for this period to end ASAP.

Of course, your parenting forums can help to this effect, but if I may suggest :

- encourage him to do some social activity (sports, videogames, book club, music, whatever) he isn't doing now. He needs a new set of friends to avoid having such ideas. He also needs to let off the steam by doing something he enjoys without parental monitoring. Use the soft ways of persuasion, and try preferably to guide him to an activity he likes.

- Do not talk about politics at home until he stops his nonsense. Don't give him any material for him to oppose for the sake of opposing. Avoid to talk about the topic of his enlistment altogether.

- If needed, make him a computer dork. Better have a dorkish son than a dead son.

- If possible, send him on vacation with a group of friends / other teenagers (no matter if they are unknown actually) with lots of girls. He may change his mind if he has a girlfriend. Do not actively encourage him to have a girlfriend though : advice or attempts to hook him up are no-nos (gosh I hated that when my mother tried )


Hope it'll turn out all right !

[Shi Huangdi]

"Shi, do you honestly believe I'm some 5-15 year old American mormon child pretending to be an adult on internet forums ALL DAY simply wasting time by debating about politics? "

We've had plenty of high school kids waste inordinate amounts of time on Poly debating stuff. Adult posters are usually more likely however to have lives and jobs that get in the way with that. You supposedly have family, (was it 3 kids you said you had before?)something that would take even more time away from internet posting.

Sure, I suppose it is possible we have someone old enough to have a 15 year old son, likely older then 33 judging from your last comment(though it was most likely a blunder you made with your persona) who names himself after a character from Starcraft, who plays Nation States(back when I was doing story threads like that there wasn't a single person above Age 25), who has claimed to be a patriot for three countries (Russia, USA, and India), who chooses to live in America and in Logan of all places for someone who has strong anti-US feelings, who says he is from the information ministry, who enters the name of the Russian National Anthe as his age, in addition all the other stuff you would do that is out of character for your age...

It's a possible situation. It just seems the more likely scenario is that you are above linked Net Rat.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Spiffor
He also needs to let off the steam by doing something he enjoys without parental monitoring. Use the soft ways of persuasion, and try preferably to guide him to an activity he likes.

But hes a teenager! How can I trust him to behave himself? What if he goes out and has sex and dies of AIDS or something?!

- Do not talk about politics at home until he stops his nonsense. Don't give him any material for him to oppose for the sake of opposing. Avoid to talk about the topic of his enlistment altogether.

This will be easy to do.

- If needed, make him a computer dork. Better have a dorkish son than a dead son.

But how? I can't force him to read books about computers, and while he can find his way around most things....he usually doesnt seem to have any interest.

- If possible, send him on vacation with a group of friends / other teenagers (no matter if they are unknown actually) with lots of girls. He may change his mind if he has a girlfriend. Do not actively encourage him to have a girlfriend though : advice or attempts to hook him up are no-nos (gosh I hated that when my mother tried )

SEND HIM OUT ON A VACATION AWAY FROM ME WITH GIRLS?! Again, hes a teenager. I don't think he'd be able to resist lust....

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000
SEND HIM OUT ON A VACATION AWAY FROM ME WITH GIRLS?! Again, hes a teenager. I don't think he'd be able to resist lust....

This is precisely the point. Besides, he's 15, it's about time the show begins. Trust me, many problems will be solved if he finds a girlfriend (whose half-life is generally short at that age).
Make sure he goes with the right people though, so good liberal middle class whose daughters have been raised in believing relationship must be significant. Not some gangstas who consider relationships to be only about sex.

[DinoDoc]

Better have a dorkish son than a dead son.

What makes you think that being a soldier is as dangerous as you and Tass are making it out to be?

[Spiffor]

Oh, and more generally, progressively stop to coddle him. Most rebellious youth are so because their parents invest way too much time and energy in remote-controlling them.
He is not a child anymore and 15 is the age where he needs increasing freedom from the parents' grasp.
Let him have some or all of its freedom, and he should be much less attracted in the 'adventurous' military life.

Then again, you're in Utah. A dull community can kill any freedom when the parents have stopped to do so

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by DinoDoc

Quote:

Better have a dorkish son than a dead son.

What makes you think that being a soldier is as dangerous as you and Tass are making it out to be?

Actually, it's not because of the danger that I don't want Tass' son to enlist, but I'm using phrases to be more convincing

[Mr. President]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000


But hes a teenager! How can I trust him to behave himself? What if he goes out and has sex and dies of AIDS or something?!

He's much more likely to die in a car accident on the way to his girlfriend's house.

SEND HIM OUT ON A VACATION AWAY FROM ME WITH GIRLS?! Again, hes a teenager. I don't think he'd be able to resist lust....

Hey, I sat next to a girl I liked for an entire year in Year 12 and nothing happened.

Edit: So it's not relevant. Sue me.

[muxec]

2Tassadar
[quote News]
Ñåãîäíÿ â Èçðàèëå áûë ïîõîðîíåí Êèðèëë Øðàìêî, ïîãèáøèé ïðè èñïîëíåíèè ñëóæåáíûõ îáÿçàíîñòåé. Îí ïðèåõàë â Èçðàèëü è ñëóæèë â òàíêîâûõ ÷àñòÿõ. Ïîñëå îêîí÷àíèÿ ñëóæáû â àðìèè îí ñòàë ðàáîòàòü îõðàííèêîì.  Èçðàèëå ðîäñòâåííèêî, êðîìå äÿäè, íå áûëî.  ìîìåíò ñìåðòè ìàòü è îòåö áûëè â Ðîññèè è îíè ïðèëåòåëè â Èçðàèëü ÷åðåç äâà äíÿ. Îòåö â ìîìåíò ñìåðòè ñûíà íàõîäèëñÿ íà çàðàáîòêàõ â ñèáèðè, äàëåêî îò àýðîïîðòà è ïîýòîìó åãî ïåðåâåçëè ñïåöèàëüíî ïðèñëàííûì âåðòîë¸òîì[/quote]

Tassadar, what do you think about your country, where people prefer to serve in country, that in state of war, than in motherland? I agree with your son, that US army per 100 better than Russian army.

[muxec]

Ðîññèÿ îòñòîéíàÿ íàøà äåðæàâà,
Ðîññèÿ ïðèêîëüíàÿ íàøà ñòðàíà
ÃÓËÀÃà ìîãó÷àÿ âîëÿ è ñëàâà
Òâî¸ äîñòîÿíüå íà âñå âðåìåíà.

Ñëàâüñÿ îòå÷åñòâî íàøå äîðîäíîå
Áðàòñêèõ íàðîäîâ ñîþç âåêîâîé.
Ïðåäêàìè äàííàÿ ìóäðîñòü íàðîäíàÿ!
Ñëàâüñÿ ñòðàíà... Ìû ãîðäèìñÿ òîáîé?

PS: to all those who dont know Russian- ask Tassadar for translating

[Gatekeeper]

Shi Huangdi, Investigative Reporter for NewsChannelONE!

Gatekeeper

[orange]

You're blowing this way out of proportion. Even I've considered joining the navy after graduating from college, and I'm as pacifistic and anti-American foreign policy as they get.

[Nubclear]

who names himself after a character from Starcraft,

Would you prefer if I change my name?

who plays Nation States

Would you prefer I stopped playing Nation States? Apparently, I'm too old to be playing silly little games, aren't I?

who has claimed to be a patriot for three countries

And will continue to claim exactly that.

who chooses to live in America

Ah ha! Now were really getting into the meat of things, aren't we? Your attempting to prove me to be a "child" because you want to attempt to discredit my opinions.

Shi, I regarded you as one of the more intelligent conservatives here but after this debacle....It makes me wonder

and in Logan of all places

I've already explained THIS as well, somewhere. My wife wanted to live in Utah, so we came to Utah. I used to live in Ogden, and Salt Lake City. Now I'm in Logan.

If your willing to give me the money to move elsewhere, I'd gladly accept it.

anti-US feelings,

This I KNOW I've stated in many threads. I'm not against AMERICA. I'm against current American policies.

who enters the name of the Russian National Anthe

Forgetting the obvious error here: Ask Ming. I've edited my name many times. My first name was (I believe0 "Tassadar Tassadar". I decided I didn't like that when I logged into Poly, so I changed it. And one day I was experimenting and simply decided to type the Russian anthem and see how much would be accepted.

But since you seem to have an issue with it (Although its far more likely you have an issue with my beliefs ) I'll change it.

in addition all the other stuff you would do that is out of character for your age...

Alright, lets list a few other things that aren't quite "my age":

-I like anthems.
-I'm a communist.
-A post on internet forums regularly.
-I play video games.
-I like flags.
-I like politics.

Shi, quite frankly I'm disappointed in you. You have not only proved your ignorance once again but you have also proven that you will stop at no conspiracy theory in order to make your side seem more "credible". I always regarded such drivel as coming from Ned and Slowwy (No offense intended, of course ) but not from you.
I'm more than willing to continue to prove that I'm quite aged, however if you'd like you can bow out now and I will simply accept it as a surrender agreement. It's your choice.

Now, back to the subject:

What makes you think that being a soldier is as dangerous as you and Tass are making it out to be?

The fact that their, uh, part of the military is one

Muxec: No, the Russian Army is FAR worse, especially when it comes to human rights. But quite frankly, I don't want him to join ANYTHING as it would put his life in danger.

He's much more likely to die in a car accident on the way to his girlfriend's house.

But his behavior is so reckless....He'll suddenly stop doing his schoolwork or chores or talk back or go to a friends house without informing me.....I don't see how I can trust him.

Most rebellious youth are so because their parents invest way too much time and energy in remote-controlling them.

But how? I mean, if I stop now then he'll simply continue the rebellion. I don't see how it would be safe to let him do what he wants!

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by orange
You're blowing this way out of proportion. Even I've considered joining the navy after graduating from college, and I'm as pacifistic and anti-American foreign policy as they get.

Sigh...

But I can't help but think "What if" this happens to my child? What if he gets seriously hurt? Or worse? I'd never be able to live with myself knowing I could have somehow done SOMETHING in order to prevent him from joining and consequently prevented a serious injury.

I know, the chances are a "bit" low of it happening, but.....I just can't help but think that someday I'll be watching TV and my sons picture will come up as a POW or KIA.....

[orange]

then I hope you don't allow him to drive anywhere, or fly anywhere, or operate heavy machinery for that matter. What if something happened to him? How could you live with yourself knowing you were able to prevent it all from taking place! The truth is, you can't prevent anything, and joining the military is not a condemnation, but a career, like so many others.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by orange
then I hope you don't allow him to drive anywhere, or fly anywhere, or operate heavy machinery for that matter. What if something happened to him? How could you live with yourself knowing you were able to prevent it all from taking place! The truth is, you can't prevent anything, and joining the military is not a condemnation, but a career, like so many others.

Yes but......I still can't help but obsess over this. I mean....

Sigh...

But I can't help but think "What if" this happens to my child? What if he gets seriously hurt? Or worse? I'd never be able to live with myself knowing I could have somehow done SOMETHING in order to prevent him from joining and consequently prevented a serious injury.

I know, the chances are a "bit" low of it happening, but.....I just can't help but think that someday I'll be watching TV and my sons picture will come up as a POW or KIA.....

[Chemical Ollie]

I think every kid should join the defense forces. That's how it used to be when I was young. It's an experience. But we only served for a year, and our government didn't send us abroad on wars on aggression, which makes it quite different from your situation.

[Maniac]

Ñåãîäíÿ â Èçðàèëå áûë ïîõîðîíåí Êèðèëë Øðàìêî, ïîãèáøèé ïðè èñïîëíåíèè ñëóæåáíûõ îáÿçàíîñòåé. Îí ïðèåõàë â Èçðàèëü è ñëóæèë â òàíêîâûõ ÷àñòÿõ. Ïîñëå îêîí÷àíèÿ ñëóæáû â àðìèè îí ñòàë ðàáîòàòü îõðàííèêîì.  Èçðàèëå ðîäñòâåííèêî, êðîìå äÿäè, íå áûëî.  ìîìåíò ñìåðòè ìàòü è îòåö áûëè â Ðîññèè è îíè ïðèëåòåëè â Èçðàèëü ÷åðåç äâà äíÿ. Îòåö â ìîìåíò ñìåðòè ñûíà íàõîäèëñÿ íà çàðàáîòêàõ â ñèáèðè, äàëåêî îò àýðîïîðòà è ïîýòîìó åãî ïåðåâåçëè ñïåöèàëüíî ïðèñëàííûì âåðòîë¸òîì

Ðîññèÿ îòñòîéíàÿ íàøà äåðæàâà,
Ðîññèÿ ïðèêîëüíàÿ íàøà ñòðàíà
ÃÓËÀÃà ìîãó÷àÿ âîëÿ è ñëàâà
Òâî¸ äîñòîÿíüå íà âñå âðåìåíà.

Ñëàâüñÿ îòå÷åñòâî íàøå äîðîäíîå
Áðàòñêèõ íàðîäîâ ñîþç âåêîâîé.
Ïðåäêàìè äàííàÿ ìóäðîñòü íàðîäíàÿ!
Ñëàâüñÿ ñòðàíà... Ìû ãîðäèìñÿ òîáîé?

Is that really Russian? There's an accent on every letter. What is said in that quote, Tassadar?

[Skanky Burns]

Let him make his own decisions. Ask him to defend the position he has chosen. But you can't force him to live his life wrapped up in cotton - the more you try to control his life the more he will want to rebel.

[Mercator]

I'm with orange and Asher...

You should support him, whatever he chooses... One thing you can do, though, is make sure he doesn't just rush into it, but knows what he gets himself into.

So maybe you can join him to some open house day (or whatever it's called, the American military must surely have lots of things to encourage recruitment), or he could go to a military summer camp or something... Well, I don't even know anything about our military, let alone the US military, but I'm sure there are lots of possibilities.

And if it's only about being rebellious, maybe showing that you support him in this will be enough to change his mind.

[Mercator]

Originally posted by Maniac


Is that really Russian? There's an accent on every letter.

You should set the text encoding in your browser to Cyrillic.

What is said in that quote, Tassadar?

um... It mentions Russia and the Gulag in the second paragraph, but that's about as far as my Russian goes.

[Ari Rahikkala]

Originally posted by Maniac Is that really Russian? There's an accent on every letter. What is said in that quote, Tassadar?

You're using a wrong character set. Mozilla renders this page with windows-1251, which seems to produce correct Cyrillic characters. I need to check the source to see what charset is actually in use, though...

[Maniac]

Ah yes thanks. I've changes a setting and now I see the Greek-like Cyrillic letters.