HELP!!!!! My son says he wants to join the US Military when he turns 17!!!!!! - Page 3

Ben Kenobi · May 26, 2003, 08:06

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so good liberal middle class whose daughters have been raised in believing relationship must be significant.

These exist?

Tassadar:

How much coffee do you drink every day?

oedo · May 26, 2003, 08:41

Tassadar, tell your son, the US-army is for lamers and pussies only.no risk, no fun. if he wants to find out, what being a soldier really means, he should join the Russian, Indonesian, Turkish or whatever real army.

Panag · May 26, 2003, 08:51

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000

My son (15) just informed me that he has the desire to join the US military in 2 years!!!

As most here can imagine, this is not QUITE what I had expected.

What should i do? I can't let him go! What if he were to get hurt or killed?! Plus, I hear the intellectual capacity of most officers is.....LOW

What should I do?!?!

hi ,

nothing , why risk a break of family ties by saying no , .....

as a parent you should support him , no matter what choice he makes , ....

who knows , he might get to west point or so , ... or become a navy seal , ....

there are many jobs in the army that he can do , .....

better to support him then to see him running of to the french foreign legion or so in three years , .....

have a nice day

muxec · May 26, 2003, 09:22

OK...
My first post related to Kirill SHmatko, who died in his security service in Israel, while his parents were in Russia. Second post is parody on Russian hymn. The parody explains glory of GULAG (Concetration camps and prisons)

JohnT · May 26, 2003, 09:29

Interesting thread, Tass.

Shi, Tass claimed to be a father - he didn't claim to be a good one.

Tass-

(Sorry, couldn't resist).

But seriously...

"But his behavior is so reckless....He'll suddenly stop doing his schoolwork or chores or talk back or go to a friends house without informing me.....I don't see how I can trust him."

Trust him to do what, exactly?

To do things that you want? In the way that you want them done?

It's not your life, Tassadar, and if you were in any society other than the industrial, wealthy West, your son would be considered old enough to make this decision regardless of your wishes. Consider it a lucky twist of fate that your son is conditioned to think that your opinion still matters.

First, determine whether this is an actual desire to enter the military, or an unspoken weariness with the idea of ... 6... more... years... of... school.... It could be that he just wants to avoid college. One thing that might be appealing is that in the Army he'll have somebody to tell him what to do.

The military, if done right, is a fine initial career choice for any young man or woman and frankly should not be discouraged... but it should be guided, and that's where you come in.

First, look at the various services to determine their requirements and compatibility with your son: don't join the army if you don't like being outside, that sort of thing.

Then look at the difference between enlisted and officers and determine what would be a better fit. I know that if this was my daughter, I would be pushing hard for her to enter the military as an officer, meaning that I would have her sign up on a program where she enters for a stint after she finishes school. When I went to school back in the late 80s, it was possible to sign up for the military after high school, but not join the active forces until you were finished with college.

Your son can always do ROTC as well. Does the high school have a branch?

Spiffor · May 26, 2003, 09:32

Tass :

If your kid seems to do it because he is rebellious or wants to leave "his idiot old man" or something, I came to think you should discuss about it with him.

A one-sided discussion, but not the usual one. A one sided discussion from him to you. You have to make abundantly clear that you are interested in why he wants to do so, you have to look genuinely interested in his opinion and his worldview.

Listen carefully to what he says, and think about it throughly.

You'll be able to understand what he expects from the army (most likely, more freedom, you seem to coddle him quite a bit). Fulfill these expectations yourselve, or create the conditions so that they are fulfilled, and he won't go.
Especially if you talk about your own military experience and about the ****ers who believe they are gods because they have a mere golden thread on their uniform.

Spiffor · May 26, 2003, 09:33

Obiwan :

By "meaningful", I meant "who think a relationship doesn't revolve exclusively about sex and can last more than 3 days".
I don't want Tass' son to be married now

TCO · May 26, 2003, 09:35

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Originally posted by Apocalypse

Bullshit for the most part. The military schools in the US are usually near the top for the various fields of engineering. Even in other areas they are considered good. For example, the Virginia Military Institute is the best public liberal arts college in the United States. It's also where I'm going to be in a month.

Good luck. I never figured you for the type to go to a service academy. The first year is going to suck. Hang in there.

Pekka · May 26, 2003, 09:40

Things could be worse Tass.. I could be your son.. and I'd join up for $10 plus coke can.

TCO · May 26, 2003, 09:40

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000

What evil porn

Edit: Also, I usually dont find the Poly OT as a suitable place to discuss parenting.

I go to parenting forums for that

Did you lie about the financial distress also? You are Tiamatting us.

Ben Kenobi · May 26, 2003, 09:45

Spiffor:

"who think a relationship doesn't revolve exclusively about sex and can last more than 3 days".

I was unaware that good liberals supported these relationships.

TCO · May 26, 2003, 09:51

Tass, is having us on. I don't know if he is a NEtrat. But the remarks don't click right. Resisting lust and such.

Tassie is full of it.

Lancer · May 26, 2003, 09:53

I joined the day I turned 17, and look how I turned out.

Spiffor · May 26, 2003, 09:57

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Originally posted by obiwan18
Spiffor:

"who think a relationship doesn't revolve exclusively about sex and can last more than 3 days".

I was unaware that good liberals supported these relationships.

A good liberal indeed considers that orgies and mindless sex with unknown people should be the only way a relationship should take place. I'm a bad liberal as I tolerate meaningful relationships

JohnT · May 26, 2003, 09:58

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Originally posted by GP
Tass, is having us on. I don't know if he is a NEtrat. But the remarks don't click right. Resisting lust and such.

Tassie is full of it.

He might be, but he'll still need my advice someday.

chequita guevara · May 26, 2003, 09:58

Tass, there are anti-military counciling programs. Look up Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and they'll point you in the right direction.

TCO · May 26, 2003, 10:02

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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Tass, there are anti-military counciling programs. Look up Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and they'll point you in the right direction.

Some platoon pugil stick drills will remove that commie porcessing. We can mold him into a killing machine. Let us have him. Maybe he will go Corps?

Spiffor · May 26, 2003, 10:02

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Originally posted by Lancer
I joined the day I turned 17, and look how I turned out.

SEE ? DO YOU WANT THAT ???

Ben Kenobi · May 26, 2003, 10:02

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I'm a bad liberal as I tolerate meaningful relationships.

Lancer · May 26, 2003, 10:19

Spiffor, without guys like me, guys like you would be writing in French right now.

Rogan Josh · May 26, 2003, 10:19

Is it just me, or is the sort of person who nicknames themselves 'Apocalypse' really the sort of person we want as an officer in the US military?

Pekka · May 26, 2003, 10:26

I understand you're worried, but it's not that bad. He'll have a great experience, and frankly I think every young man should join, just because of the experience of it.

It's not likely he will be killed, or has to kill someone. Possible, but not likely. Depends what he decides to do in the army and where he gets in. I think he will come back safe and in one piece and as good person as he entered, maybe even better.

Plus with all the benefits there are in the US military these days.. He'll do just fine. Support him and show that you might not agree with his decision, but you still are his father and you'll stand next to him even if the wind blows. He'll make lots of new friends that last for life and are very special that can't be broken. He can feel good about himself, and he's still young. Military record in resume can not be bad what ever he decides to do afterwards. If he decides to pursue career soldiering, then it's good because he has more time and at his early 20s is quite experienced soldier and still very young, and he can climb up the ranks if he does good.

If I think of the US, military is a good place for young man to be in. They have good team spirit and they don't have to deal with civilian crap all the time. It's a lot easier in that way. Also he'll get lucky with the ladies in that uniform! I think there are more dangerous jobs in the US. Like being a cab driver in NY, or some gas station clerk at night. He'll be in good hands and it's unlikely he gets hurt. And if he gets hurt, he gets to do it in a place he likes to be and he choose himself to be in, and not some random shooting outside a club or something.

He becomes man with honour and he learns responsibility at young age and what it truly means and gets to do heavy chores and actually clean when he makes mess and .. he'll be outstanding young man, don't be too worried!