Wanted: players for new OCC succession games - Page 3

Ribannah · March 10, 2001, 17:19

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Originally posted by Roman on 03-10-2001 02:37 PM
Up to SG(2) now. Unfortunately I don't have his e-mail, so I sent the save to Ribannah and asked her to mail it to him. Tks.

Game forwarded to SG[2] = git2@scousers.net

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Julius Brenzaida · March 10, 2001, 17:37

Eh guys, you're playing it so fast, you made me feel guilty for taking some time !

Scouse Gits · March 10, 2001, 21:03

Thanks Rib & Roman - I have the game.

I assume we are playing around 20 turns each?

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SG(2)

Ribannah · March 10, 2001, 21:10

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Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 03-10-2001 08:03 PM
Thanks Rib & Roman - I have the game.

I assume we are playing around 20 turns each?

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SG(2)

SG(2) you are expected to play to 1000 AD (25 turns).
After that I don't know - Paul didn't continue the schedule at that point in the obvious expectation that we will have reached AC by then ...

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Scouse Gits · March 10, 2001, 22:56

520 - Status Report ...we are Republic and size 5. Copernicus is half built and researching Theory of Gravity @ 18 turns. OK to work ...time to see some happy people. Settler sent south.
540 - Newsflash The Indians have nearly completed their great project "Copernicus". Well guys and girls - we have 44g in the bank and a Legion + Diplo in Carthage and no caravans. Cost of Copernicus is 504g. Houston ... "We have a problem!" Settler starts mining wheat.
560 - Indians complete Copernicus. Romans + Egyptians go for Shake's. We celebrate to size 6.
580 - Size 7 - Can't celebrate further. No Colosseum/No Construction.
600 - Just hoping we get Shake's - I have fingers crossed! Destiny out of my hands - now I know why I play ICS.

640 - Egyptians becoming more hostile! This alliance is on its way out.
720 - Shake's Sell Temple. Need money.
760 - Steal Construction from our "Allies" the Egytians - and got away with the customary "Minor Incident" caution.

780 - Celebrating - build Aqueduct.
800 - Size 8 - Money! give Romans construction and receive gift of 150.

The trireme has its eyes on a Barb king off the coast of Elephantine, but it's stacked with a Legion. I think it better come home for caravan duties.
820 - Size 9 - Settler mines wheat to silk.
840 - Size 10 - Coal Caravan built - Rome demands.
860 - Size 11
880 - Size 12 - end celebrating.
960 - Theory of Gravity Engineering next - Build University - Starting to build Caravans for Newton.
980 - Settler roads silk to north of Carthage.
1000 - Caravan

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Game sent to Ribannah with copy to Paul.

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SG(2)
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Smash · March 11, 2001, 00:10

looks like your game will be finished before we have the Collosus.

Paul · March 11, 2001, 05:57

Roman, could you send me a copy of your 500 AD save?

1000 AD - 1500 AD Ribannah
1500 AD - 1750 AD kcbob
1750 AD - 1800 AD Julius
1800 AD - 1850 AD Paul
1850 AD - 1875 AD Roman
1875 AD - 1900 AD SG(2)

Ribannah · March 11, 2001, 07:27

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Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 03-10-2001 09:56 PM
820 - Size 9 - Settler mines wheat to silk.
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Arrrrrggggghhhhh!!!!!!
This could have been completed in 2150 BC, effectively doubling our science output during many, many centuries.

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Ribannah · March 11, 2001, 10:45

Consul Ribannah looks at the mess and shakes her head ...

Oh well, let's see what we can still make of this. Fortunately the rival team seems to have disappeared into thin air so the shame is still over the horizon.

1000 AD Who rush-built an entire caravan? What happened to incremental strategies? Putting workers in the ocean for cleansing.
1020 AD Gold Caravan produced, Memphis is demanding
1060 AD Salt Caravan produced, Elephantine is demanding
1080 AD The Japanese (who the h... are they?) complete Sun Tzu's War Academy
----- "Romans get Engineering from Vikings" - more tribes pop up by the day!
1100 AD Gave Theory of Gravity to Egyptians, got Navigation as gift
----- Gave ToG to Romans, Engineering as gift
1120 AD Coal Caravan meets Vikings near Veii, traded for Horseback Riding
----- Gave the Vikings all our techs (they looked a bit backward), signed a peace treaty and exchanged maps
1140 AD Roman Gold Caravan from Veii arrives in Carthage, Veii stops demanding Coal

1160 AD Gold Caravan from Rome arrives in Carthage, Rome stops demanding Coal

----- The Vikings build King Richard's Crusade (strange name for a Viking king ...)
1180 AD Food Caravan produced, Carthagian scientists discover Banking
1200 AD Our allies, the Egyptians, bring us shattering news: some rogue tribe called the Indians have taken Memphis! Fortunately, the city still demands gold

1220 AD Food Caravan produced
1260 AD Food Caravan produced
1280 AD Gold caravan meets the Indians, traded for Bridge Building (pretty useless)
----- We refused to trade for the blasphemous knowledge of Polytheism
----- Give them all our tech instead (hopefully they will see the error of their ways)
----- Exchanged maps, signed peace treaty
1300 AD Food Caravan produced, Gold Caravan enters Memphis (d,546)

1320 AD A breakthrough!! Carthagian librarians find the secret of Sanitation.
----- Surely this will reduce the bad vapours

----- Gave Banking to the Romans and received a gift of 75 gold

----- Coal Caravan dumps contents in Rome for 87 sestertiae
1340 AD Carthage builds ISAAC NEWTON'S COLLEGE (who? what?), scientists cheer
----- Salt Caravan reaches the beautiful city of Elephantine (d,460)

1360 AD Carthagian bookwyrms invent Economics
1380 AD The first Bank in the world is built in Carthago!
----- Egyptians boast about a mysterious discovery called "chemistry"
1420 AD Sewer System completed, the citizens of Carthago start a spontaneous celebration out of love for Consul Ribannah

1440 AD Size 13
1460 AD Size 14, Carthagian fishermen construct a Harbor
1480 AD Size 15, Wizards of Carthago proclaim the discovery of Invention - what else is new
----- Traded with the Egyptians for Chemistry and Feudalism, refused to trade for Polytheism
----- Egyptians demand half our gold, we refuse, they back down

----- Gave the Romans all our tech, exchanged maps, received a gift of 200 gold

1500 AD Size 16, Stock Exchange built in beloved Carthago

Facing the horrors of Democracy (due in 1540 AD), Consul Ribannah hurriedly leaves the scene ...

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March 12, 2001, 10:40

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Originally posted by Ribannah on 03-11-2001 09:45 AM
Fortunately the rival team seems to have disappeared into thin air so the shame is still over the horizon.

Well, still alive and kicking

I had a busy last week and the weekend. I just checked my mail and saw that Hueij had sent me the save file 8.3. I'll play my turns today.

Btw Hueij, have you posted your history somewhere?

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Daddy-O · March 12, 2001, 14:49

I got the saved game and will play in the next day or two.

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March 13, 2001, 01:45

Hueij sent his history to me with the save game and here it is:

"A short summary of the History of the Glorious Carthagian Empire 1500-625 BC.

1450: Chinese start Hanging Gardens.
1250: Discovery of Monarchy, starting Currency. Traded Masonry, Pottery and Horseback Riding for Monarchy, Warrior Code and Code of Laws with Romans, gift 50 gold.
1100: Revolution.
1050: Hueij I crowned as King of the Kingdom of Carthage.
950: Colossus built.
825: Egypt starts Pyramids.
800: Irrigated Pheasant to Buffalo.
725: Romans get Currency and acquire Construction, so someone else is in the neighborhood...
Romans: gift Construction.
700: Library.
675: Currency, going for Trade.
650: Egyptians build Pyramids, Romans start Hanging Gardens."

March 13, 2001, 01:55

OK, played my turns until 1AD and here is my history:

0-625 Romans 100g

1-600
2-575 China completed HG, starts GL, Indians start LH, Romans GW
3-550 Marketplace-->Temple
4-525 Egypt starts GL
5-500
6-475
7-450 S5, temple, we now have 10 shields

8-425 Trade-->Literacy (I really hope that Romans have discovered map making by now!)
9-400 Indians built LH
10-375 Hides, gave trade to Romans
11-350
12-325
13-300
14-275 Romans discover bridge building (sigh)

15-250 Dye
16-225
17-200
18-175 China builds GL, Egypt change to Marco Polo's (smart guys, those Egyptians!)

We discover literacy-->the republic

We exchange it for bridge, get 25g from worshipful Romans

19-150 Romans 25g
20-125 Warrior for martial law
21-100 Romans 25g, our warrior uncovers a fish at our city's radius!

22-75 S6
23-50 Diplomat, we really need to explore more..
24-25 Romans stop with GW, Vikings start Sun Tsu
25-1AD Our hides caravan has finally arrived at the door steps of Veii which just grew to 7 and still demands hides.

The two other caravans are getting close to the Rome empire as well.

Our settler has irrigated two forest squares into plains. Trading one shield to one more food and two trade arrows (with Colossus) sounds like a good bargain to me.

We should be in republic very soon. Science rate is 10, science box is 60% full of beakers, caravan bonuses just about to arrive. We have a big problem though, we must find the other nations soon. That's a challenge to my successors!

Now I'll hurry to send the game to Paul & Scrobism.

Paul · March 13, 2001, 10:57

The website has beebn updated. I am still missing two saves, so I would appreciate it if someone could mail them to me.

Roman or SG(2), could you mail me the MGE 500 AD save? And could Hueij or Marko_Polo please mail me the 625 BC save of team 2.42?

Hueij · March 13, 2001, 17:38

Sorry, totally forgotten... On it's way...

Paul · March 13, 2001, 17:50

Received and uploaded. Thank you.

kcbob · March 14, 2001, 01:21

The good news is I finished my turns. The bad news is that number two son wiped out my log. To the best of my recollection, we traded for gunpowder, switched to Democracy, discovered Railroad, and sent a gold caravan to Thebes which netted 648 gold.

On to Julius (with a cc to Paul) and sorry for the bum log.

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Julius Brenzaida · March 14, 2001, 09:48

MGE TEAM : 1710 AD we discover Industrialization, food caravan. 1720 we build Darwin. Magnetism and Explosives discovered. 1740 we build an engineer. 1752 we discover Corporation. 1752 2nd engineer build. 1758 Oil freight.. We talk with the Indians. Give 100 gold and 1 tech, then trade for Metallurgy we were researching at that time and Polytheism. 1762 we discover Electricity. 1764 Gem freight. 1774 We discover Refining. 1786 we discover Refrigeration. 3 caravans to Thebes. About 800 gold. 1794 we discover Steel and head for Combustion. 1800 I stop, and wonder what I did wrong (except trade for Polytheism). I can’t celebrate even with 100% luxuries although I’ve changed and improved some land. Can someone tell me why ?

Julius Brenzaida · March 14, 2001, 09:50

Game sent to Paul. Once again I played a few more turns because Kcbob played a few less. I’m always following Paul’s list of turns. It’s tough without Copernic !

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Paul · March 14, 2001, 10:16

1802 AD Egyptians build UN
1806 AD Combustion; Disband Caravel; Start WLTPD, size 17
1820 AD Electronics
1828 AD End WLTPD, size 27
1832 AD Automobile; Sell Sewer System
1834 AD Superhighways; Sell Aqueduct
1838 AD Power Plant
1840 AD Mass Production
1848 AD Hides Freight
1850 AD Transport

Sent to Roman. Come on, team 2.42. We could play 10 games before you guys are finished.

Paul · March 14, 2001, 10:21

Website updated. And Julius, you couldn't celebrate because you had a caravel at sea.

Julius Brenzaida · March 14, 2001, 11:02

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Originally posted by Paul on 03-14-2001 09:21 AM
Website updated. And Julius, you couldn't celebrate because you had a caravel at sea.

Well, you're of course right. How come I didn't think about it ? Maybe I thought I already had a transport ! I hope my mistake wasn't too costly !

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Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe

Ribannah · March 14, 2001, 11:42

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Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida on 03-14-2001 08:48 AM
I can’t celebrate even with 100% luxuries although I’ve changed and improved some land. Can someone tell me why ?

The game can! I always check the happiness button when this happens. Countless Triremes have been instantly disbanded ... or even worthless alliances dissolved to get them home ...

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Roman · March 14, 2001, 14:12

I will not have access to the internet for the next two weeks. Please skip my turns until I return. Tks.

Daddy-O · March 16, 2001, 12:30

This is the 2.42 order that I found. I hope it is the most recent.

2.42:
Tom DeMille tom@hotlamp.com 4000 BC - 2750 BC
Scouse Git[1] 2750 BC - 1500 BC
Hueij j.stavenuiter@chello.nl 1500 BC - 625 BC
Marko_Polo marko.raunio@luukku.com 625 BC - 1 AD
skrobism theidiots.com 1 AD - 500 AD email changed!!!!!!
Smash Smash007@altavista.com 500 AD - 1000 AD

I am passing the save to Smash now.

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Daddy-O · March 16, 2001, 12:33

This is the History of Carthage through the Skrobism Era:

1-20ad Trade route with Veii 104g
2-40ad Republic -> Map Making
3-60ad Skrobism Proclaimed Consul of the Carthaginian Republic!
4-80ad Trade route with Antium 84g
5-100ad
6-120ad Trade route with Antium 84g; map making -> math
7-140ad rushed col to put people back to work
8-160ad
9-180ad
10-200ad
11-220ad
12-240ad
13-260ad Republic, and Monarchy for peace with Egypt and Seafaring, I offered 100g for strategic alliance, Egypt wants war with Rome, I refused. The treacherous Egyptians kept our gold and refused the alliance.
14-280ad
15-300ad math->banking We withdraw from Giza to save peace with Egypt.
16-320ad
17-340ad
18-360ad Egypt expelled out diplomat.
19-380ad
20-400ad We set sail with a trireme and a diplomat. Exchanged techs and maps with Rome.
21-420ad Carthage is the 2nd most advanced civ, 3-Rome, 4-Egypt.
22-440ad
23-460ad
24-480ad
25-500ad

King Skrobism took the scepter from an aging King Marko Polo. This peaceful exchange of power laid the ground work for the changes to come under King Skrobism. King Skrobism established trade with the Roman city of Veii, giving the economy a boost of 104 gold. Strengthened in confidence, the King declared that for now on Carthage would be under new form of rule. He called it the Republic. The Senate, at first put in place by the King of course, elected Skrobism as Consul of Carthage. The year that Marko Polo handed over the throne was declared the Year of Enlightenment and called year 1. For nearly 500 years the Consul would also be know as the Skrobism. The Skrobism Era saw more trade established with Roman Cities. The development of Map Making, and Mathematics. In the Year of Enlightenment 140, a Colosseum was completed in record time. The people were pleased with the family oriented events such as sporting events, public executions, and pro-Skrobism rallies. SKRO-BIS-M!!! - SKRO-BIS-M!!! - SKRO-BIS-M!!! - SKRO-BIS-M!!! - SKRO-BIS-M!!!

In the Year of Enlightenment 260, a strange people were found coming to land in a craft that we only saw in the work shops of our scientists. These new people called themselves Egyptians. Skrobism exchanged knowledge of our forms of government for a technology called seafaring and Peace with these people. The Carthaginians looked to buy an Alliance with Egypt, but when we would not declare war on our eternal friends in Rome, the Egyptians refused. Over the next 100 years peace would be maintained, but not without incident. The Egyptians founded Giza almost on top of our long time fortified position and threatened to break the peace. We withdrew our troops. Years later, an exploring diplomat was expelled from territory claimed to be ruled by the Egyptians. In the Year of Enlightenment 500, we are still at peace with Egypt. But in halls of the consul palace and the senate, it is no secret that the Egyptians are distrusted.

The Colosseum was the place of much celebration in the Year of Enlightenment 400. Brave pioneers were given a hero's farewell as they were readied for a journey into the unknown. A trireme was loaded and set sail with a diplomat to parts unknown. Carthage is the most advanced civilization in the known world. There are reports of another nation more advanced than us. But how can that be? This civilization has not even made their name known to us. These reports were dismissed and spun to the liking of the Consul of Carthage. "Today we embark on the bold path of discovery. Carthage is the greatest City, no, civilization in the world. Some say that there are others greater than Carthage. But I say, 'Name them!'. Today I do. I name the civilization that is greater than Carthage." (Dramatic pause - the sound of a questioning audience and 'Popcorn! Peanuts! Ice cold drinks here!".) "The only nation greater than the Carthage of today, is the Carthage of Tomorrow!"
SKRO-BIS-M!!! - SKRO-BIS-M!!! - SKRO-BIS-M!!! - SKRO-BIS-M!!! - SKRO-BIS-M!!!

The Skrobism Era continued for another 100 years. The discovers were never heard from again. Some say the age of discovery is behind us. Others claim that they can still see the explorers hugging the shores of new lands in the mists of time.

The save is being passed to Smash and Paul.

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Smash · March 16, 2001, 23:10

I got it but it is the 1ad save.

Daddy-O · March 17, 2001, 01:51

resent

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Paul · March 17, 2001, 14:13

Website updated.

Ribannah · March 17, 2001, 15:35

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Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 03-17-2001 12:51 PM

1872 - Nuclear Power > Flight (Yuk - No Laser!)

Well, we don't need The Laser yet, we have plenty of time to do research AFTER building Apollo! I normally pick Flight as the next thing after Computers. And what are all those Hides caravans doing asleep while we still have a working Colossus????

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