We humans keep busy screwing things up.

Lancer · May 28, 2003, 09:05

One of my first memories was the Cuban missile crisis. I was only 4 yrs old, but I recall hiding under my desk at school, the tension of my parents...

So many messes since then, one after another it seems like. Things got better with the demise of the Soviet Union. I don't think humanity is on the edge of blowing away the whole world anymore.

Little pissant extremeist countries with nukes...that's a concern. North Korea or Iran or some poor Russian sells a nuke to a Bin Laden and it's bye bye New York or London or Paris or Berlin or Rome. Imagine if a moslem extremeist group nuked the vatican...

Seems to me that this generation has a much more confused situation to deal with, and like any grumpy old fart looking at the following generation, I wonder if they have whatever the hell it takes to prevail. Excellent critics however...

For me, I'm 45, my hair is turning silver, my bones ache on cool wet days, and sometimes after a heavy freight night, I'm profoundly weary. I feel that I have lost some of the blind optimism of my youth, and with it my hope for a good outcome.

SlowwHand · May 28, 2003, 09:09

Yes, but at least we're consistent.

Lancer · May 28, 2003, 09:12

Ari Rahikkala · May 28, 2003, 09:30

* cue waiting music until someone posts a long reply about how ideology X would save the world if only everybody conformed to it and how everybody would conform to it if people were senseful *

alva · May 28, 2003, 09:42

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JohnT · May 28, 2003, 09:59

"28-05-2003 09:05"

Mark this date and time, for it is when Lancer officially admitted he is turning old.

"T-t-talkin' bout my generation."

Btw, Ideology X is for whiny losers and murderous bastards. Ideology "Y" is what will save the world and make the lion lie down with the lamb!

Zkribbler · May 28, 2003, 10:14

Once again we disagree, JohnT. It's Ideology Z...as in Zkribbler.

JohnT · May 28, 2003, 10:17

At last: the "X" groupies and the "Y" followers have something they can join forces against! Down with Z!!!

DinoDoc · May 28, 2003, 10:17

Ideology D followers plot in silence

Zkribbler · May 28, 2003, 10:18

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnT
At last: the "X" groupies and the "Y" followers have something they can join forces against! Down with Z!!!

uh oh

Pekka · May 28, 2003, 10:33

Well, the way I see it there can be no peace before there's justice, but before there must be peace before there can be justice. So... as long as we, humans, are visiting stars in this planet, there's no peace.

So, the only thing we can do is make sure we're winning the battles. That's how I see it. And so far, it's been good for a long time. Let's keep it that way.

and Lancer, don't worry. World is full of young lads ready to take the challenge the baddies.

Lancer · May 28, 2003, 10:34

*Waits for Eroberer*

Stefu · May 28, 2003, 10:35

Why is there always emphasis on humans screwing things up, anyway? That's speciesism.

I bet that if cows were intelligent, they'd screw things up even worse. So there.

Lancer · May 28, 2003, 10:40

"28-05-2003 09:05"

JohnT, the exact date upon which my van is fully paid for.

Now I'll be able to afford to get old.

Zkribbler · May 28, 2003, 10:44

Mmmm

almost the exact same day my Miata will be paid for. Now I can afford to be young.

JohnT · May 28, 2003, 10:46

You're paying off your van today, Lancer?

Lancer · May 28, 2003, 10:49

Last payment is this month. Three years ago to this day we went into a Ford dealership and got a Windstar. Three years at .9%, that's around $650 a month.

Bye bye.

Lancer · May 28, 2003, 10:50

Hey Zkribbler

It's the 'no more payments' dance.

JohnT · May 28, 2003, 10:52

<-- Hasn't had a car payment in 3 years...

Lancer · May 28, 2003, 10:54

How did it go w/ the repair guy the other day John? Who was right?

JohnT · May 28, 2003, 10:55

Yeah, gotta bump that thread up... look for it.

chequita guevara · May 28, 2003, 12:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Lancer
Last payment is this month. Three years ago to this day we went into a Ford dealership and got a Windstar. Three years at .9%, that's around $650 a month.

Bye bye.

Your credit must be as bad as mine.

Lancer · May 28, 2003, 13:26

My credit is excellent. I've never missed a payment on anything in my life.

Umm, yeah. I think...

Own my house outright.

Anyway, checked my rating and it's around 800, before this van.

Sava · May 28, 2003, 13:34

I used to think humans were good. Then I thought they were neutral... now... well... bring on the nuclear holocaust

Narz · May 28, 2003, 13:35

Humans make mistakes, but we've made a lot of progress too. Why focus on the mistakes?

DAVOUT · May 28, 2003, 13:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Lancer
My credit is excellent. I've never missed a payment on anything in my life.

Umm, yeah. I think...

Own my house outright.

Anyway, checked my rating and it's around 800, before this van.

Nothing to be proud of; you are certainly, like me, only tempted to buy when you can afford it!

DAVOUT · May 28, 2003, 13:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Narz
Humans make mistakes, but we've made a lot of progress too. Why focus on the mistakes?

Agree, we have made progress in making mistakes. Now, they are much bigger and frequent.

MichaeltheGreat · May 28, 2003, 13:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Lancer
One of my first memories was the Cuban missile crisis. I was only 4 yrs old, but I recall hiding under my desk at school, the tension of my parents...

So many messes since then, one after another it seems like. Things got better with the demise of the Soviet Union. I don't think humanity is on the edge of blowing away the whole world anymore.

Little pissant extremeist countries with nukes...that's a concern. North Korea or Iran or some poor Russian sells a nuke to a Bin Laden and it's bye bye New York or London or Paris or Berlin or Rome. Imagine if a moslem extremeist group nuked the vatican...

Seems to me that this generation has a much more confused situation to deal with, and like any grumpy old fart looking at the following generation, I wonder if they have whatever the hell it takes to prevail. Excellent critics however...

For me, I'm 45, my hair is turning silver, my bones ache on cool wet days, and sometimes after a heavy freight night, I'm profoundly weary. I feel that I have lost some of the blind optimism of my youth, and with it my hope for a good outcome.

Maybe the cowboy approach has to ride into the sunset with John Wayne and Gary Cooper.

MichaeltheGreat · May 28, 2003, 13:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Lancer
One of my first memories was the Cuban missile crisis. I was only 4 yrs old, but I recall hiding under my desk at school, the tension of my parents...

So many messes since then, one after another it seems like. Things got better with the demise of the Soviet Union. I don't think humanity is on the edge of blowing away the whole world anymore.

Little pissant extremeist countries with nukes...that's a concern. North Korea or Iran or some poor Russian sells a nuke to a Bin Laden and it's bye bye New York or London or Paris or Berlin or Rome. Imagine if a moslem extremeist group nuked the vatican...

Seems to me that this generation has a much more confused situation to deal with, and like any grumpy old fart looking at the following generation, I wonder if they have whatever the hell it takes to prevail. Excellent critics however...

For me, I'm 45, my hair is turning silver, my bones ache on cool wet days, and sometimes after a heavy freight night, I'm profoundly weary. I feel that I have lost some of the blind optimism of my youth, and with it my hope for a good outcome.

Maybe the cowboy approach has to ride into the sunset with John Wayne and Gary Cooper.

Lancer · May 28, 2003, 14:02

Best thing one can do with these foreign extremeist government types is pop em one if they answer the question wrong. Next time, they get it right. Either way they're going to hate us so...

Cowboy the ****ers.