May 30, 2003, 11:43
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Originally posted by DAVOUT
I did, after reading that arrogance means morgue, which is an haughty and despising. 
Hence my question to Fez.
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Fez doesn't mean anything. He just spews nonsense as a form of self-entertainment.
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May 30, 2003, 11:45
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Originally posted by DAVOUT
I did, after reading that arrogance means morgue, which is a haughty and despising attitude.
Hence my question to Fez.
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Speak english, not jibberish.
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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May 30, 2003, 11:48
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As an aside,
Is elijah getting his Fez education in this thread? I mean, everyone goes through it...
-Arrian
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May 30, 2003, 11:50
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Originally posted by Fez
Speak english, not jibberish.
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Agree, this is arrogance.
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May 30, 2003, 11:52
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Enough of the jibber-jabber foo!
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May 30, 2003, 11:53
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Originally posted by DAVOUT
Agree, this is arrogance.
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No you are arrogant.
Now whose DL are you? 
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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May 30, 2003, 12:04
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Originally posted by Fez
No you are arrogant.
Now whose DL are you?
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Alone of my kind, no DL.
BTW, will you answer my simple question ?
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May 30, 2003, 12:20
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Originally posted by DAVOUT
As I cant see that in his post, could you explain your point ?
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Damn. I have to do better.
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May 30, 2003, 12:25
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May 30, 2003, 12:31
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MtG:
"As far as paying a price for it goes, give it time."
Maybe, but it seems to me that the media have degenerated to a point where they wouldn't cover Watergate, because doing so would be unpatriotic. The dems are so incredibly lame-assed, you should sell them as a sedative.
"if Iraq is still a FUBAR, we get reports of our people getting ambushed in Afghanistan, al Qaeda is still blowing **** up, with the occasional audio from OBL or AAZ, the economy is still dragging..."
That's all pretty certain. The question is, can Karl still spin this as "America at war, with the greatest copilot aller Zeiten in charge"?
"most of the rest of the world is too dependent on the US economy, and too ineffective in organized opposition (Chirac?  UN? ) for the US to care."
We don't depend on the US economy, while the US economy depends on capital import. So that's not the problem. The problem is, when will our chickenshit idiot politicians run out of patience and finally tell Bush to **** off? My tip is in the first half of his second term, should he get one.
"Under the present situation, the only real problem (from the Macchiavellian imperialist perspective) is that some other countries are impotently uncomfortable."
There are many ways to counter US "imperialism". The US is far from a hegemonial position.
Now with 200k troops tied down in Iraq, how would for example a war against Iran work? Iran is at least 5 times stronger than Iraq on defense spending, a good deal more considering it didn't suffer from sanctions. Should the "hegemon" occupy Iran, what would be left of the hegemon's might in other corners of the world? Probably not even enough to overrun the usual third world country.
And Macchiavelli would laugh his ass off at the dilettants in the White House.
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May 30, 2003, 13:34
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What would you say if you were one of those dissidents who was executed?
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Nothing. Dead people can't speak. 
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May 30, 2003, 14:40
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Fezzings are always entertaining.
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May 30, 2003, 14:49
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Originally posted by DAVOUT
Alone of my kind, no DL.
BTW, will you answer my simple question ?
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First of you haven't asked anything.
Secondly, I don't know you.
And thirdly, is english your second language? It is for me, but at least state things clearly so everybody can understand.
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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May 30, 2003, 14:53
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Just throw him from the helicopter and get it over with Fez.
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May 30, 2003, 15:10
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May 30, 2003, 15:31
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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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Originally posted by HershOstropoler
MtG:
"As far as paying a price for it goes, give it time."
Maybe, but it seems to me that the media have degenerated to a point where they wouldn't cover Watergate, because doing so would be unpatriotic. The dems are so incredibly lame-assed, you should sell them as a sedative.
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That's been a problem with the Dems for decades. They haven't been able to shed their tax and spend whiny image, so no real leaders have emerged, and just like you have the far right types in the Republican party subverting moderates, you have the far left types in the Democratic party doing the same.
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"if Iraq is still a FUBAR, we get reports of our people getting ambushed in Afghanistan, al Qaeda is still blowing **** up, with the occasional audio from OBL or AAZ, the economy is still dragging..."
That's all pretty certain. The question is, can Karl still spin this as "America at war, with the greatest copilot aller Zeiten in charge"?
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In 18 months, I'd rate it "probable" but certainly not "pretty certain."
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"most of the rest of the world is too dependent on the US economy, and too ineffective in organized opposition (Chirac? UN? ) for the US to care."
We don't depend on the US economy, while the US economy depends on capital import. So that's not the problem. The problem is, when will our chickenshit idiot politicians run out of patience and finally tell Bush to **** off? My tip is in the first half of his second term, should he get one.
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Who's "we?" Enough of the world is dependent enough, (and Burkina Faso would be dependent on capital import if it could attract any), and the US gets massive capital import because those investments are attractive (and capital flows are often reversing merchandise flows). If the US economy really tanks (as opposed to just drags for a while) it'll have a hell of a lot bigger ripple effect around the world than if Russia's or France's economies tank.
I think your (Euro) leaders will need genetic engineering to get some balls. The whole (at least the way its spun in the US) "trying to repair relationships with the US" bit is nauseating. If someone is going to take a stand, they should take a stand.
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"Under the present situation, the only real problem (from the Macchiavellian imperialist perspective) is that some other countries are impotently uncomfortable."
There are many ways to counter US "imperialism". The US is far from a hegemonial position.
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Of course, but if the prisoners don't realize they can overpower the jailer, or they don't have the balls to, then the jailer maintains control. Reality doesn't count. It's what everyone perceives to be real that counts.
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Now with 200k troops tied down in Iraq, how would for example a war against Iran work? Iran is at least 5 times stronger than Iraq on defense spending, a good deal more considering it didn't suffer from sanctions. Should the "hegemon" occupy Iran, what would be left of the hegemon's might in other corners of the world? Probably not even enough to overrun the usual third world country.
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The real game isn't to make war in Iran. It's to make noise about making war in Iran, so that people will be distracted from looking at other things to closely.
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And Macchiavelli would laugh his ass off at the dilettants in the White House.
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Of course. 
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May 30, 2003, 15:34
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The Dem's are pathetic... spineless, gutless, ballless... ::thinks of more things they are --less::
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May 30, 2003, 15:42
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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat He just spews nonsense as a form of self-entertainment.
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And that makes him different from everyone else how, Reb?
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May 30, 2003, 15:54
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His nonsense spewing is in a different class from the rest of ours, Yank, that's all.
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May 30, 2003, 16:03
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I see the ol joint has picked up a lot of rather odd characters, quite a collection.
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I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
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May 30, 2003, 16:13
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I see the ol joint has picked up a lot of rather odd characters
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We HAD got rid of one......
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May 30, 2003, 16:14
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The reason we have such incompetent leaders is that only 50% of registered voters vote.  Plus, the Bible-thumping right-wing wackos in the South and West tend to vote more than us Liberals and Socialists. 
GO VOTE PEOPLE!!! DON'T LET THE SPECIAL INTRESTS WIN! 
Fez, DAVOUT isn't a DL, He has been around too long to be one, Ming, Rah, or MtG would have checked if he was a DL.
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May 30, 2003, 16:16
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Davout then should get pass his dyslexia if he wants to discuss with me.
Odin, you are a socialist. Now buzz off. You also have a hideous flag under your name.
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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May 30, 2003, 16:17
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I see the ol joint has picked up a lot of rather odd characters, quite a collection.
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Like you and Fez. (just kidding)
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May 30, 2003, 16:23
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Nothing to see here, move along: http://selzlab.blogspot.com
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May 30, 2003, 16:25
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Edit: Never mind. I don't talk with a embarassment of a human being. All commies are like that. They then attack my nationality and my country.. oh well.. I guess they are more like Hitler and his thugs then anybody else.
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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May 30, 2003, 16:27
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So why haven't you joined the CPA, comrade? 
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May 30, 2003, 16:52
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Edit: Never mind. I don't talk with a embarassment of a human being. All commies are like that. They then attack my nationality and my country.. oh well.. I guess they are more like Hitler and his thugs then anybody else.
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Ok, you've had you fun. Fezifying mode is now off for the weekend. You can still post, but leave the fezzifier off.
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May 30, 2003, 16:56
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Ok, you've had you fun. Fezifying mode is now off for the weekend. You can still post, but leave the fezzifier off.
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Great... now my DL has a mind of its own..
Just kidding.. MtG.. I'll stop. I don't know what you'll do to me anyways if I visit that California Poly Meetup.. so I better stop right now..
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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May 30, 2003, 17:06
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Great... now my DL has a mind of its own..
Just kidding.. MtG.. I'll stop. I don't know what you'll do to me anyways if I visit that California Poly Meetup.. so I better stop right now..
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Oh, I just had a little side trip planned for you...
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