May 29, 2003, 04:45
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Zylka's avatar
Am I the only person who holds that the use of the Nazi swastika as an avatar should not be allowed?
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May 29, 2003, 04:47
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Uber used one before and was "moderated".
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May 29, 2003, 04:56
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He did? Oh. I didn't notice.
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May 29, 2003, 05:48
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I couldn't give a **** about what Zylka does or doesn't do with his avatar.
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May 29, 2003, 06:20
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Re: Zylka's avatar
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Am I the only person who holds that the use of the Nazi swastika as an avatar should not be allowed?
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I don't think it should be banned.
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May 29, 2003, 07:11
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i don´t like it, but I don't know which rules do we have here
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May 29, 2003, 07:22
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Like FP says :
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I couldn't give a **** about what Zylka does or doesn't do with his avatar.
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Or are there people on 'poly who have never even seen a war film or whatever. Its just a cross with legs. But if Zylka wanted to put anything on his avatar I wouldn't care. You know what he's trying to do, and UR has taken the bait starting this thread.
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May 29, 2003, 07:48
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While I tend to agree, that avatar sets a less friendly tone to Apolyton than does, say, FP's avatar. Mind you, I have not even seen Z's current avatar.
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May 29, 2003, 07:53
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I thought it was a joke for the banning the nazi party thread.
Made me laugh
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May 29, 2003, 07:56
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Zylka's profile (with avatar)
On my last vacation to SE Asia, they had swastika signs on pretty much every street corner in the Indian/Buddhist parts of the cities I visited. It's quite a popular symbol of luck/prosperity among Buddhists, but somehow I suspect Zylka's not using it for its religious significance...
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May 29, 2003, 08:32
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Maybe they were Finnish Air-Force -symbols (Like swastikas, but lines were pointing the other way)?
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May 29, 2003, 08:52
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Yes... people have been moderated for using swastika's before.
Zylka's avatar has been removed, and he's been told not to use them again.
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May 29, 2003, 09:06
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Tuo,
IIRC I've seen both variants. Apparently Indians aren't very particular when it comes to such symbols 
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May 29, 2003, 10:22
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Now that it has been settled, please close this thread.
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May 29, 2003, 10:27
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Apparently Indians aren't very particular when it comes to such symbols
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...DaShi is right, you know... 
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May 29, 2003, 10:52
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Re: Zylka's avatar
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Am I the only person who holds that the use of the Nazi swastika as an avatar should not be allowed?
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We allow the hammer and sickle.
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May 29, 2003, 11:32
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The nazi symbol is not allowed here because it's use is forbidden in the law of Germany, or so I'd guess.
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May 29, 2003, 11:35
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Originally posted by Tuomerehu
The nazi symbol is not allowed here because it's use is forbidden in the law of Germany, or so I'd guess.
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The server isn't located anywhere near Germany.
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May 29, 2003, 11:37
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Yeah Tuo, and everyone knows that Apolyton is subject to the laws of Germany... 
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May 29, 2003, 11:40
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No... it's not allowed because many feel it's offensive.
Now granted, there are some other avatars that some feel are offensive as well, but not to the same extent as swastikas. If a lot of VALID complaints are made about a persons avatar, we look into it, and make "the call"
Also, avatars that cross the line in terms of "good taste" and "sexual content" have also fallen into the category of having the user "asked" to change it.
Yeah... there are really no set rules, and some may think it's arbitrary at times... But that seems to be the nature of the beast.
Common Sense seems to be the general rule of thumb.
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May 29, 2003, 11:43
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FP, DD -- > Luckily there aren't any users from Germany, either?
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No... it's not allowed because many feel it's offensive.
Now granted, there are some other avatars that some feel are offensive as well, but not to the same extent as swastikas. If a lot of VALID complaints are made about a persons avatar, we look into it, and make "the call"
Also, avatars the cross the line in terms of "good taste" and "sexual content" have also fallen into the category of having the user "asked" to change it.
Yeah... there are really no set rules, and some may think it's arbitrary at times... But that seems to be the nature of the beast.
Common Sense seems to be the general rule of thumb.
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May 29, 2003, 12:23
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Originally posted by Locutus
On my last vacation to SE Asia, they had swastika signs on pretty much every street corner in the Indian/Buddhist parts of the cities I visited. It's quite a popular symbol of luck/prosperity among Buddhists, but somehow I suspect Zylka's not using it for its religious significance...
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Those are not swastika signs. Those signs are mirror images of the Nazi swastika. That is a buddhist symbol that predated the Nazi symbol for a couple of thousand years.
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May 29, 2003, 12:27
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Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
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I am not sure about the UK, but in many countries, open displays of Nazism are illegal, and so are open assemblies of neo-Nazis. For the very least, that is a symbol of hate, racism, war, and repression.
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May 29, 2003, 12:41
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UR,
Like I said, I've been both the 'real' swastika's and their mirror images...
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May 29, 2003, 12:58
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Damn nazis always ruin everything. The swastika, the Charlie Chaplin mustache, and so on.
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May 29, 2003, 13:25
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I'm sure intent plays a large part in the admin's decision here. In this case the probable intent was to wind people up.
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May 29, 2003, 13:28
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ixnay,
Those are the least of my beefs with the nazis
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May 29, 2003, 15:32
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Those are not swastika signs. Those signs are mirror images of the Nazi swastika. That is a buddhist symbol that predated the Nazi symbol for a couple of thousand years.
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would you be happy if zylka mirrored his avatar then? 
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May 29, 2003, 16:08
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Actually, the Buddhists will often use both sides.
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May 29, 2003, 16:59
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i hate hate haters.
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