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Old June 27, 2003, 17:40   #121
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yeah, you don't post much from home, if ever....which means you must not work hard, often, or have a cushy job
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Old June 27, 2003, 18:23   #122
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Old June 27, 2003, 23:02   #123
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i think he is the boss
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Old June 27, 2003, 23:31   #124
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you guys are increadible, I think you should open up a spam factory.
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Or both!

In with the Spam, out with the verbal diarrhea...
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Old June 28, 2003, 06:46   #127
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you guys are increadible, I think you should open up a spam factory.
Don't worry, when we do we will leave a big trough of it outside so you can have your fill whenever you want.
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I actually had a spam sandwich for lunch today
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Old June 28, 2003, 19:25   #129
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Trying to bring this back on topic ...

I just found out something else I didn't know (apparently there is still more about this game I didn't know then what I do)

I had previously thought that any time you moved a trireme away from the shoreline that there was a chance you would lose it (too far from shore). I only just realized that you can move it away from shore, it just has to move back to shore before the end of the turn (I guess so it doesn't spend that 50 years between turns floating in the ocean )

Again, I should have known about this long ago , and can't guess how many times I have had my triremes hug the coast needlessly. On a map with many islands it makes early exploration very difficult (or very chancy, if you want to risk your triremes).

/me the slow
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Yes, that is reading the rules carelessly, but we all have a story like that. There is a way to keep them from sinking using the end turn command on the tool line, but it's considered a cheat.
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Old June 30, 2003, 01:15   #132
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Too many cheaters!
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Old June 30, 2003, 08:52   #133
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Fortunately there are still a lot of us that don't.

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but are there really? I would think the type of person who cheats would have got tired of civ mp years ago. its a very old game now and only the die hards are left. I can't imagine that there are many, if any cheaters still playing. Especially amongst the main groups of Apolyton/germans/civmad etc.
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I wouldn't rule out finding out some long established player has always cheated. That would be quite a find though.
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Old July 1, 2003, 02:42   #136
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Yeah AH you could be right....... but makeo makes a good point too...

all the blowhards have stopped playing
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I would bet that most of us left don't. But them I'm an optimist.
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Old July 1, 2003, 15:13   #138
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i would be disappointed to find out anyone in our group did...i truly would....i have stood up against cheaters for so long now...and to be duped...well that would piss me off
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Yeah, I would be pissed too. At least if it was one of our core group.
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that is sortof what i mean.... i mean, Ming could very well be going upstairs to load the map on another computer and disguising it as a smoke break... he takes enough of them..... hey, i think i have noticed mings game improve lately.....nah must be coincidnece

j/k Ming..... i know your honorable
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I just think he learned things from our get together.
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i learned one huge thing about the redheads etc....and i knew the food box one.....not sure what i was thinking when i was there........

and berz leaned some, and if anything , you just saw two other people open their game differently.
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Yes, seeing how you open, (which is completely different then I do) helps me make more sense of things in our games. You always assume that players of competitive skill level are doing reasonably the same as you are. Boy, was I wrong about that.
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you sound almost smug..... we do open differently.....but it doens't make any one way right, just habitual....

i learned a few things that i should do differntly in some cases....
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't associate best/right with either style. I was just so much more surprised than anything else. We were so different. But know things make a bit more sense. I now know why they didn't in the past.
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b/c its been years since you have saved every turn with me
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Yep, I only do that for suspected cheats.
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exactly....i haven't saved and looked at one of your games in aaaaaaages....not since the first year or so
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Call me anal but I used to look over every player every game...........every 5 turns or so though, not every turn, because the point was not to catch cheats. I always like to see how the game played out from all perspectives.

I would be staggered if any of the established players here turned out to be cheats.
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When we first started playing, I'd look at others strats, but now we play so many games, that I don't have the time to do the reviews I used too. To do a proper review almost takes as long as playing the darn game. I'd rather be playing.
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