Official Politburo Thread!

conmcb25 · May 29, 2003, 23:41

Note: Go to this thread if you want a list of everyone in the RF Demo game including there User Names, Russian Names and there Current Positions in the RF Demo Game:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...20#post2081020

This is the current politburo lineup effective May '42 to april '43, this was last edited on 22 July 03 (the first change will be PinkyGen taking over for EZ Rhino as the Economics Minister when EZ rhino leaves us sometime in July '03):

Politburo Assignments

I am going to use everyones user name because Im tired, crabby and want to get this done so I can go to bed!

General Secretary: conmcb25
Armaments Minister: Greeny
Economics Minister: EZ Rhino
Information Minister: El Awrence
NKVD Cheif: Iron Chancellor
Bossy20000: Party Idealoligist and Asst Info Minister.
STYOM-Member at Large
Pinky Gen-Asst Econ Minister
Xenozod- Asst NKVD

The NEW Government as voted on by the people.

Marshal In charge, defines the different fronts of battle and who commands them. Controls where reinforcements and labour brigades go. He is the first and last person to play the game in a turn. Reports enemy movements upon new turns.

STAVKA will be the Military War Council for the Marshall. They shall be composed of some or all of the Front Commanders. This shall be decided by the Marshall. Someone who is not a Front Commnader can also be on STAVKA since this body is the group that assists and advises the Marshall he can have someone on the Council that is not a Front Commander. Front Commanders and STAVKA memebrs are chosen and serve at the pleasure of the Marshall. He picks them and he fires them. They are responsible for the Operational and Tactical conduct of the war.

POLITBURO is the Civilian Committe in Charge. They Hire and Fire the Marshall. If Stavka memebers are tired of or want to get rid of the Marshall they need to covince the POLITBURO. POLITBURO handles the civilian issues:
Propoganda, Industrial production, finances, Party Purity and Policing those not loyal to the Party. They also determine the Strategic direction of the war. The POLITBURO is composed of 7 members. Those seven chose the General Secretary/Party Chairman and he appoints members to different roles.

The roles are:
Propoganda Minister
Economic Minister
Armament Minister
NKVD

Now thats only 5 total "jobs" but that’s OK in the real Soviet Union the Politburo was the senior Party hacks, they did not necessarily have jobs like lets say the US Cabinet. So the remaining two, if we have 7 would just be plain old Politburo members.

Anyone else who runs and doesn't make the final seven can be assistants to the "job assigned Members". That way no one is excluded. If someone still wants to participate but doesn’t for some reason want to be on the Politburo then we can just say they are on the Central Committee, which was the Politburos group that executed the Politburos orders.

Economic Minister In Charge of the Science, tax, lux rate. In charge of assigning specialists to all cities. Controls the Caucauses Oil Fields. Must give approval for use of the rubles in rush buying by the Front Commanders and Armaments Minister. Controls the movement of Lend-Lease Program freight once they land in Murmansk. Reports to the General Secretary.

Armaments Minster In charge of the Ural Mountains Industrial Complex of cities and the production of those not directly under control of a Front commander (these western cities like Tula and Orel etc will eventually be occupied by Commanders, negating duty). Controls what is produced. Controls workers and labor brigades within the region for maximum output. Must gain the agreement of the Economic Minister to spend money out of the national treasury. Reports to the General Secretary.

Propaganda Minstry Consists of a Minister position (editor) and and newspaper (Pravda). Creates a map of the current war, records historical events and human intrest/ patriotic stories. These are several open positions for those who would like to be various types of journalists, though there is the chief editor of the newspaper, as Minister of Prop. Reports to the General Secretary.

NKVD can be in charge of policing us, recommending actions for city disorder, and making sure we all follow the Party line. I would like to eventually explore control of Saratov and the movement of NKVD units before they are assigned but I think that’s a bit much to ask right now. We can discuss that possibility later. (This is subject to change of course, it's still a little fuzzy on what this could turn into, but it's not terribly important right now)

Chairman would determine the agenda to discuss and make sure that some conclusion came to discussion. He would be the head of committee vice a supreme ruler. Someone to keep the ball rolling, and keep things on track. The chairman could also serve as one of the other “jobs” if there is a shortage of members. He would also ensure that the members with jobs are doing them correctly.

The Chairman would serve at the pleasure of the Politburo and the Politburo would serve until another election is held. The members with jobs would serve at the pleasure of the Chairman. He could remove them from a job for failure to perform. And appoint another member, do the job himself or appoint an assistant.

The Marshal will not be on the POLITBURO, nor will POLITBURO members be allowed to hold positions in STAVKA or serve as front commanders.

POLITBURO members will be elected every 12 game months and will enter into office at the begining of the same month.

As changes are made via amendment or of course Genral Secretary Proclamation

I will of course update this first Post.

Here are the first Politburo Members:

Full Members
Stefanovich Ivan Knapovich (conmcb25 )
Ivan Kanzlereisky (Iron Chancellor)
Michaelovitch (Bossy2000)
Grenski Timyfovich Sladkov (greeny)
Alsahafsky (El Awrence)
EZRhino
Six Thousand Year Old Man

Junior Members
Xenozod
PinkyGen

conmcb25 · May 29, 2003, 23:43

Official positions as I see it right now are:

General Secretary-Knapovitch
Propoganda Minister-TBD
Economic Minister-TBD
Armament Minister-TBD
NKVD-TBD
Party Ideoligist-TBD

El and Greeny and I stay in plce until new appointments are made.

conmcb25 · May 29, 2003, 23:44

I need all the Politburo Members to preferably email me, and tell me two basic things:

What you want to do, include three choices.

What your schedule is over the summer. Say from right now till 01 Sep.

That includes Junoir Politburo Members as well. (Although based on the voting you would be an assistant NKVD guy vice the NKVD guy.

Email is:

conmcb25@bluemarble.net.

I will try to balance wants versus needs. And assignments may change during this one year in office based on the availablity of other Politburo Members

Dr. Nick · May 29, 2003, 23:49

I guess this is 'here'

Bossy20000 · May 30, 2003, 03:47

Congratulations, comrade Knapovitch! May your reign be long and prosperous!

Dr. Nick · May 30, 2003, 07:20

We don't have reigns here! Autocrats reign! Disgusting monarchs reign!

Bossy20000 · May 30, 2003, 07:33

What should I use then? Dictatorship sounds negatif, command is more for the military, despotism has the same problem as dictatorship. I leave it up to you to provide us with the right words to refer to his ??? After all, you write for Pravda, so you should know how to call it

Dr. Nick · May 30, 2003, 07:56

Dictatorship of the Proletariat is never a negative thing.

Bossy20000 · May 30, 2003, 08:22

No, it isn't a negative thing at all, it only doesn't sound that well! We have to think about our reputation in the world community!!!!!

Dr. Nick · May 30, 2003, 12:25

The world community will soon become Proletariat Dictatorships as well! Heed not the opinions of those weak democratic regimes!

EZRhino · May 30, 2003, 14:02

Do you plan on staying on as Armament Minister Conmcb? Otherwise there are only two open positions.

conmcb25 · May 30, 2003, 14:18

Quote:

Originally posted by EZRhino
Do you plan on staying on as Armament Minister Conmcb? Otherwise there are only two open positions.

No I hadn't planned on it, since we have more than 7 it would be unfair to someone who actually wanted to play. Sorry I had to run last night, the wife and the kid were both driving me nuts.

Bossy20000 · May 30, 2003, 15:34

What, you put your family before the welbeing of the Rodina?

What for a man are you?

conmcb25 · May 30, 2003, 16:20

Quote:

Originally posted by Bossy20000
What, you put your family before the welbeing of the Rodina?

What for a man are you?

Wait until someday when you are married and have little comrades running around the Dacha Comrade!

Then you'll understand the misery of marriage!

Dr. Nick · May 30, 2003, 16:47

Marriage is for weak capitalists. The Real Communist man has no need for a wife.

conmcb25 · May 30, 2003, 18:49

Quote:

Originally posted by El Awrence
Marriage is for weak capitalists. The Real Communist man has no need for a wife.

Gee thanks for telling me NOW. Where were you 14 years ago!

Bossy20000 · May 31, 2003, 06:55

Quote:

Originally posted by conmcb25

Wait until someday when you are married and have little comrades running around the Dacha Comrade!

Then you'll understand the misery of marriage!

Thank you for the warning! I thought it was supposed to be a blessing, but ...

*writes down* Never marry!

Voila, it's on my list, next to the names of the people I have to send to the Gulag and the people I have to control. But if i don't marry and get kids, how will I pass on my power?

Something to think about!

conmcb25 · May 31, 2003, 09:45

I am still waiting for emails from these people:

Ivan Kanzlereisky (Iron Chancellor)
EZRhino
Six Thousand Year Old Man

You need to send me what you would be interested in and what your schedule is over the summer so I can make assignements.

Voting or not if I dont hear from you soon Ill make you junoir members and the junoir members full members!

Also Im thinking about giving Greeny a new job so is anyone interested in Economics Minister?

H Tower · June 1, 2003, 23:49

From: Oleg Sorokin, Marshal of the Soviet Union.
To: The Politburo
Attn: General Secretary
Subject: Threats upon the Front Commanders

Comrade General Secretary, members of the Politburo, I come to you with a request. Several of my commanding generals have come under threats from at large members of the Politburo. Under continued threats and attempting to defend themselves, they have become distracted from their work, the defense of the Rodina. If the generals are to build upon their record of success on every front, they must not be looking over their shoulders instead of looking towards the German lines.

The worst offender of the Politburo in my opinion, is comrade Michaelovitch who repeatedly threatens several of my commanders. For example
Here and here. I request censure of this member as punishment for stepping outside of the chain command and to be an example to the Politburo and the Rodina that NO ONE is above the law.

The proper chain of command if a member of the Politburo has a problem is to talk with the General Secretary who will then communicate with the Marshal, and at that point, a course of action will decided upon.

Sincerely,
Oleg Sorokin, Marshal of the Soviet Union.
Winner of the Order of the Red Banner

Xenozod · June 2, 2003, 00:57

Rule number one of Russian Politics: ALWAYS look over your shoulder...

H Tower · June 2, 2003, 01:00

my Generals are NOT political, they're fighting Fascists, and I'll protect them while they are doing so. And it just so happens I do have the power to back up my politics.

Xenozod · June 2, 2003, 01:07

Rule number 2: Never mess with the man who can send you to Camp Disobedience!

Heh, I wasn't disagreeing with you, just stating good advice...you are right, the Front Commanders should concentrate on the fronts.

Bossy20000 · June 2, 2003, 04:03

Comrade Marshal, I'm not the only one threatening. Comrade Patiskov was already speaking of killing me, and you find it offensive that I speak of Camp Disobedience? Plus, as far as I know the Politburo is the law, so how could I break it then?

The only person who can ask me to stop this is the GenSec, so now you are ignoring the chain of command. I think you don't understand the task of a party ideologist; my job is to ensure that all persons in this country are loyal and follow the party guidelines. If your front commanders stay in line with these, I wouldn't have to be speaking about Camp Disobedience!

FiGu · June 2, 2003, 05:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Bossy20000
Comrade Marshal, I'm not the only one threatening. Comrade Patiskov was already speaking of killing me, and you find it offensive that I speak of Camp Disobedience? Plus, as far as I know the Politburo is the law, so how could I break it then?

The only person who can ask me to stop this is the GenSec, so now you are ignoring the chain of command. I think you don't understand the task of a party ideologist; my job is to ensure that all persons in this country are loyal and follow the party guidelines. If your front commanders stay in line with these, I wouldn't have to be speaking about Camp Disobedience!

Remember the "just kidding

".
I didn't mean to "kill" you.

Bossy20000 · June 2, 2003, 05:24

As if I am not kidding when I say I will send you to Camp Disobedience for this! I even said it in some of my posts (for the people who don't get that it is obviously a joke), but I find it stupid to have to put at the end of every post that some things I said in it were just for fun! Most people can make the difference between a joke and serious matters!

The ANZAC · June 2, 2003, 16:49

The Politburo is getting too big for its britches.

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Xenozod · June 2, 2003, 16:52

Comrade Marshal, perhaps you should also admonish your generals...

The ANZAC · June 2, 2003, 17:05

Perhaps he should.

Just remember who started it.

I'll censure myself.

Xenozod · June 2, 2003, 17:29

I'd have to check the old Politburo thread...

conmcb25 · June 2, 2003, 17:59

Will you kids PLEASE try to get along!

Jeez this is just like being at home with my three kids when the wife is working!

Politburo and Front Commanders please just knock this stuff off!

Thanks!

Marshall sorry if I am directly talking to Front Commanders here but someone had to say something. Hopefully you will agree.

From now on if you dont have something CONSTRUCTIVE to say in my thread then please dont post at all. Enough is enough!

Thanks!