To Nivoxz N.

Snowflake · May 31, 2003, 23:11

(Edited by the CMN)

You appear to be registered in 3 factions - that is against the game rules.

If you wish to be a member of the Hive, please activate the "leave" procedure for the other 2 factions you are registered with

Googlie

Vev · May 31, 2003, 23:25

I think I am missing something here. Anyone care to enlighten me?

Googlie · June 1, 2003, 00:41

Vev:

see:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...16#post2051131

G.

Voltaire · June 1, 2003, 03:06

He has not been authorized, therefore I think there's little cause for concern for now (unless I'm mistaken and you can view the private forums without being authorized by the team leaders).

-Chairman Voltaire

Googlie · June 1, 2003, 21:30

No - I don't believe that one can.

However there is concern with the CC (who have authorized him) that he might be a mole for another faction.

With HongHu's original post (inviting Nivoxz N to spy on the other two factions) I had similar concerns - and, of course, info could be supplied by e-mail or through chat rooms, by-passing the Hive Private Forum.

(BTW, I have not divulged to the other 2 factions that the Hive had the "open invitation" to Nivoxz N, just that "one of the others" had but that I had deleted it.

And I guess the question must be asked - of HongHu, prolly - is Nivoxz N a DL of yours, or a friend of yours put up to this by you?

Sorry to be suspicious, but the circumstances - and sequence of posts - are indeed strange

G.

Snowflake · June 1, 2003, 23:19

I want to apologize for initiating this thread. I have taken this more jokingly than really seriously. I would like to assure you though, I know nothing about Nivoxz. If I do I wouldn't want to talk to him like that in here would I? But I would like to apologize again. This is not something that I should make a joke of. I came here more of a learning aspect and have started to participate for the people here are so warm hearted and fun. But I guess I still have a lot to learn, including how to treat the forum and so on. I have not contribute a lot on how the game should be played of course, since I view myself so inexperienced. But at least this is an assurance that I myself is not "spying" or anything to get this team to win. I don't have that motivation at all. I came here for the fun really. Please accept this as an explanation. But if you guys are really unsure about my participation, I would do anything to your satisfaction. If you would like me to leave, I would do that. I would still hang out in the general help forum and wish all your guys the best of luck. I would miss you guys of course, because you guys are so full of fun.

(edit for spelling)

Googlie · June 1, 2003, 23:44

HH:

I have no problem with you continuing as a full participating player in the game and member of The Hive.

Indeed, my edit appeared so soon after your original post that I doubt if many others read it, (and certainly not Nivoxz N. as Chairman Voltaire has assured us that NN has not - and will not - be authorized to join the Hive. Nor have I divulged to the other 2 factions that Nivoxz N is registered with, that the "espionage invitation" came from the Hive, so no damage has been done as regards this aspect.

With Nivoxz N, it might be just a genuine rookie mistake - as a new registrant to Apolyton maybe he is unaware that he cannot be a member of 3 factions simultaneously in this game.

I have PM'd him and e-mailed him with this info, (no reply yet) but in any event it seems that it is only the Consciousness who have authorized his participation in their faction, so again, no harm may be done there.

This may blow over soon

G.

Rokossovky · June 1, 2003, 23:48

Please see CMN's Pontifications for response to this crisis.

- Rokossovky

Static Universe · June 2, 2003, 01:53

Damm, I lay low for a couple of days and I miss all this good soap opera?

Vev · June 2, 2003, 02:08

Not to mention the original message too.

Jamski · June 2, 2003, 07:48

What's going on? What happened? Who? Where? Was it any good?

*sneezes*

-Jam

Snowflake · June 2, 2003, 09:55

Quote:

Originally posted by Vev
Not to mention the original message too.

I simply said that we give him the glorious task of getting the key to the new code for us (oh that old joke that I often made and perhaps nobody gets), nothing more, nothing less. As for GooglieGod's accusation about me inviting him "to bring to the Hive as much info, plans, etc from the other 2 that coiuld be garnered" I'm entirely innocent. (...weep...) But who am I to argue with the God?

Googlie · June 2, 2003, 10:09

Quote:

Originally posted by HongHu
As for GooglieGod's accusation about me inviting him "to bring to the Hive as much info, plans, etc from the other 2 that coiuld be garnered" I'm entirely innocent.

And I am gracious enough to apologize - in my righteous indignation (when I used the "finger of God" to erase the message) I forgot - and couldn't check - how innocuous the original message had been (indeed, as the Comrade rightly says, just "get the code") until the Comrade pleaded mischief rather than evil intent in his defence

G.

Snowflake · June 2, 2003, 10:33

You are always gracious my GooglieGod! I bring you this sacrifice: this. (I would bring you more but I don't know how to search in private forum to get the exact url.)

Vev · October 3, 2003, 01:43

John says:
vev
John says:
who's the rogue?
Vev says:
nt_roiasdf
Vev says:
umm
Vev says:
having trouble rememberng
John says:
Easier said than done at 'Poly as only MarkG or DanQ could ban a Drone Ambassador from the Hive private forum (and prolly means being banned from 'Poly completely) - we had that problem when the rogue joined all the factions - no-one could disbar him, (until he removed himself)
Vev says:
nt_eroie
Vev says:
nup that wasn't it
Vev says:
ask HongHu
Vev says:
she knows
John says:
how long ago was this?
Vev says:
when honghu had 250 posts
Vev says:
or was it 330
John says:
I have no idea
John says:
how many months before I arrived?
Vev says:
I don't know
John says:
due to the proxy we usually run the same IP right?
Vev says:
don't know
Vev says:
still cannot remember the name
Vev says:
there was a post somewhere
Vev says:
but that was a while ago
Vev says:
HongHu knows of the incident
Vev says:
not sure if she knows who the person was
Vev says:
hmmm
Vev says:
aaaaahh
Vev says:
MkII CEC
Vev says:
can you remember now?
Vev says:
Mark 2 Cycon Encryption Code
John says:
huh?
Vev says:
the rouge
Vev says:
not related at all with it
Vev says:
but at similar times
Vev says:
actually slightly just afte they switched code
John says:
oh around the time Mark 2 Cycon encryption code came out
John says:
they rouge was around
Vev says:
yup
Vev says:
HongHu told he/she/it to spy on the Cycon
Vev says:
then she realised she made a mistake and erased the message
John says:
HongHu was the rouge?
Vev says:
no, she told the rouge to spy for the Hive, since the rouge is in every factoin
John says:
ahh
Vev says:
now still cannot remember the name
Vev says:
somehing like:
John says:
hrmm but surely not everyone allowed the new guy
Vev says:
something with an underscore
Vev says:
managed to get into 3 factions
Vev says:
does the icon appear when have inside access
John says:
Okay so the timing was really bad
Vev says:
or just waiting for permission?
John says:
nah icon appears when waiting for permission too I think
John says:
because I was looking at ali's icon thingy
Vev says:
well has icon for 3 factions
Vev says:
i wasn't sure if the other factions let it him though
Vev says:
anyway the thread where honghu started should have it
John says:
and this happened like just before I decided to join the hive
John says:
?
John says:
because I recall reading something wierd
Vev says:
ah Nivoxz N.
Vev says:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=87902
John says:
isn't that a US president?
Vev says:
Nixon
Vev says:
let's resurrect it
John says:
yeah sure
John says:
just post this MSN

Googlie · October 3, 2003, 01:56

And, interestingly, NN is still registered as a University member

Kody · October 3, 2003, 02:04

Well have someone track him down and get my name cleared.

Googlie · October 3, 2003, 02:57

We tried, but he never responded to an e-mail or a private message. then suddenly his name disappeared from the civlists almost co-incidental with your joining.

hence the belief that you were one and the same (but Archaic never did authorize NN)

I still think it was a double log of someone in the game

G.

Kody · October 3, 2003, 03:02

Have you tried getting an admin to track that person down?

Snowflake · October 3, 2003, 10:05

So Kody I didn't know you have a mysterious cloud around you even from the very beginning. Wow!

Snowflake · October 3, 2003, 10:06

Oh and I didn't realize the mistake and erase the message. GooglieGod did. It was meant to be a joke. It was the very immature early days ...

Googlie · October 3, 2003, 10:08

Quote:

Originally posted by Kody
Have you tried getting an admin to track that person down?

MarkG is (was?) off on his military duties, and DanQ never responded to the e-mails or PM's (We assumed that he thought in setting up individual moderators for the private forums that it was adequate. Unfortunately the powers that Voltaire, Drogue et al have are limited.)

The "investigation" died as other problems surfaced (eg Tass getting the passwords for everyone) - which set off another bout of paranoia

G.

Kody · October 3, 2003, 10:38

Quote:

So Kody I didn't know you have a mysterious cloud around you even from the very beginning. Wow!

I originally thought that people ignored my first few posts in the public forum because they were anti-social to new members.....

Come to think of it they are, judging from my observations on how they treat newbies.

Vev · October 3, 2003, 20:29

As for me, I am not sure if I am a newbie or a old timer who pretends to lurk a lot.

Snowflake · October 3, 2003, 23:13

Actually I had thought that Kody is vev's DL for sometime.

Zero · October 3, 2003, 23:53

Quote:

Originally posted by Googlie

With Nivoxz N, it might be just a genuine rookie mistake - as a new registrant to Apolyton maybe he is unaware that he cannot be a member of 3 factions simultaneously in this game.

G.

But Googlie. arent you a "member" of 5 factions simultaneously in this game?

Googlie · October 4, 2003, 00:54

The cannot was a "not allowed" rather than a "not possible"

And, yes, I am accredited to every forum, but as the CMN - I don't actually participate in any faction decision-making. My role is to read every word posted (yes, even the spam) to ensure fairness, no cheating, etc etc etc

Occasionally the factions throw a sop to me, such as naming a base after me or devoting a prayer to me, but that's the extent of my factional interaction

And as an 'alter ego" Tassadar is also accredited to the Hive, CyCon and Drone forums (regrettably neither Archaic nor Hercules would accept him to their forums)

G.

Kody · October 4, 2003, 01:17

Hello Zero,

Haven't seen you here much before.

Zero · October 4, 2003, 18:32

yeah well i stopped participating roughly at the time the colony pod was lost.

Coincidence? I think not. Wait for my article on my experience w/ the minworm attack!

Kody · October 4, 2003, 18:57

Would you like to be in charge of Pravda? We need someone commited to the job and helping to generate interest in writing articles.