June 8, 2003, 17:03
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Is this really art?
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June 8, 2003, 17:04
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Oh this thing? No, it's not art IMO...
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June 8, 2003, 17:06
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This "nude crowd" thing seems to be popular with artists at the moment.
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June 8, 2003, 17:09
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Was it the same bloke who filled the department store in London with people in the nuddy?
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Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith
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June 8, 2003, 17:12
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I should become an artist and produce lots of modern arts with young female art students. 
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June 8, 2003, 17:14
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This "nude crowd" thing seems to be popular with artists at the moment.
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Well, I think we all know why that is! 
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'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"
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June 8, 2003, 17:37
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It's been popular with the general public for some time. 
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June 8, 2003, 17:59
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Does it matter whether you call it art or not? I think it depends more on your definition of art than on what you think it is.
Like Martin Creed, an artist who one the Turner prize said "I don't make art, I make things". I think it's great that people do things like that, and I love performance art, though whether or not I would call it art really doesn't matter to me.
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But he would think of something
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June 8, 2003, 18:23
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It would be much more interesting if he firebombed the crowd. "With this piece of art I want to put the focus on the fragility of the human body" 
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June 8, 2003, 18:33
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Performance art my be nice, but it isn't worth many lives unless it's a gathering of right-wing Texans *cough* 
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For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
But he would think of something
"Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker
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June 8, 2003, 23:17
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It's not art, but I generally do not have problems with nude females. The nude males and ugly women I can ignore. It's a win-win situation.
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June 8, 2003, 23:20
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Hell, leftist "artists" want to do just about anything with naked people in it and then claim it is art. Art envolves some sort of composition and talent; taking pictures of naked people in the street requires neither.
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June 8, 2003, 23:23
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No it is not art. In fact is it allowed to even do? Doesn't it violate public decency laws? Or have I been living in Latin America too long?
In my personal opinion, it isn't. I have done real art myself, and this isn't it.
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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June 8, 2003, 23:25
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And sheesh.. is it in Spain.. WTF? Oh... Barcelona.. our San Francisco.. I hope the Civil Guard orders them to disperse.. this kind of crap should not accepted. Sometimes I just wish Franco was back..
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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June 8, 2003, 23:26
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It makes the profound and eternal statement that the "artist" has way too much free time. We need another Guernica if the Spanish are that desperate for artistic inspiration.
I could say something about the sexual saturation of society leading to a numbing effect requiring ever greater stimulus to provoke response and blah blah blah. But frankly, this isn't worth it.
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June 8, 2003, 23:29
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Careful, Elok.. we spanish got plenty of artistic inspiration.. and by the way... the guy in charge of this crap was not Spanish.. he was a whacked out New Yorker.  I don't mind tourists coming to my country to get ripped off.. but these whacked out people should stay the hell out of my country.
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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June 8, 2003, 23:31
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They undressed in a nearby building and were naked for more than an hour as Tunick had them pose four ways: standing, lying down, curled up in balls and hugging each other.
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June 8, 2003, 23:34
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Hell, leftist "artists" want to do just about anything with naked people in it and then claim it is art. Art envolves some sort of composition and talent; taking pictures of naked people in the street requires neither.
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Right, because we all know their political ideology is a part of this.
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June 8, 2003, 23:35
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Right, because we all know their political ideology is a part of this.
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Well the left is more pro-nudity...
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June 9, 2003, 00:01
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Another reaosn why the left is the sensible side, obviosuly.
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June 9, 2003, 00:03
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Someone must have seen Matrix Reloaded one too many times.
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June 9, 2003, 00:04
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Originally posted by GePap
Another reaosn why the left is the sensible side, obviosuly.
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How can that be? Sensibility is foreign to the left.
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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June 9, 2003, 00:05
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Right, because we all know their political ideology is a part of this.
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Read it again Boris.
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June 9, 2003, 00:07
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Originally posted by Fez
How can that be? Sensibility is foreign to the left.
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And Fez proves my point yet again, in the negative!
You are the best thing to ever hapen to the left Fez!
Kudos
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June 9, 2003, 00:07
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so if I take pictures of my penis and send it to women I like that would be art right? The judges never see it that way though, I always get restraining orders put on me.
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June 9, 2003, 00:11
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Originally posted by GePap
And Fez proves my point yet again, in the negative!
You are the best thing to ever hapen to the left Fez!
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Quite scaring me..
Also pay a visit to the second link in my signature.. can you read Spanish?
Well anyways.. leftism is the worst thing that has happened to this world. After of course those stupid cats that live in this house two blocks away from me.. I hate those stupid things.. and there are like twenty of them.
That is the only thing I can think of that is worse than leftism.
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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June 9, 2003, 00:13
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Fezzie boy, posts like that do NOT help your case one bit (but they do help mine quite a bit!)
So cheerio again
And yes, I am a native speaker of Spanish, and no, I feel no urge to read Spanish right-wing claptrap.
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June 9, 2003, 00:17
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Originally posted by GePap
Fezzie boy, posts like that do NOT help your case one bit (but they do help mine quite a bit!)
So cheerio again
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Well those stupid cats ripped through trash bags which I had to clean up.. in front of my house.
Anyways.. leftism doesn't work.. and the disfunctions are shown in this so called "art exhibit".. more like exhibitionist crap.
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And yes, I am a native speaker of Spanish, and no, I feel no urge to read Spanish right-wing claptrap.
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I never knew that...
Well go ahead and read it.. you will learn something.
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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June 9, 2003, 00:18
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I never knew that...
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And what language did they speak in Panama, praytell? swedish?
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Well go ahead and read it.. you will learn something.
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Highly unlikely. Highly unlikely.
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If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake :(
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw
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June 9, 2003, 00:19
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King
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Originally posted by GePap
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I never knew that...
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And what language did they speak in Panama, praytell? swedish?
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Huh? I thought you live in New York.. I never knew you lived in Panama...
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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