June 12, 2003, 08:08
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Warlord
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Does AI plan scams?
Something suspicious... was playing Babs in the OCC (yeah, the obvious choice but I'm tired of losing) and Rome declared war like 2 turns after meeting them even though they're on a different continent. (They wanted tribute, I said, go talk to my spearman.)
So we never made peace for a very very long time (they never sent a troop over to my landmass and I'm OCC so why would I bother to go there...) Anyway, once I got Democracy I made peace with Rome just so I'd have another trade partner and they were behind in tech anyway...
So a few turns pass and I contact them to see if they have any money yet and they don't but they do have saltpeter which I don't have... so I ask what he wants for it and he says WM and 40g (not 40gpt, just a flat 40g). Very suspicious I think 'cause it's worth lots more than that! Because I'm suspicious I decide to offer him gpt instead of a flat rate 'cause I figure that way he won't back stab me.
Next turn he demands tribute! I guess he did plan to back stab after all... didn't know they AI planned scams like that. Cool, all in all...
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June 12, 2003, 12:18
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Settler
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That happens to me all the time! I usually keep them happy by offering 1gpt for their territory map every 20 turns or so...
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June 12, 2003, 12:57
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Deity
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Yes it does that sort of thing and even an RoP rape, as the Germans did to me last night in AU401. Of course they blew it by only sending troops into my land and not attacking anything on the first turn.
I called down the rest of the civs on them and we took down a bunch of cities, thanks for the expansion of my empire Bismark.
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June 12, 2003, 19:32
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King
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The way the game AI behaves, I sometimes wonder if Soren create an AI message board in-game, where each AI would post their opinion of the human player.
Hammurabi: Player1 is a jackass
Gandhi: I'm supposed to be all for peace, but whose up for an ROP rape? my entire treasury for the one to step up to the challenge.
Xerxes: Shove it Gandhi.
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June 12, 2003, 19:35
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Emperor
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mouahhahahahaha
or
Hammurabi: hey Guys, i've heard Player1 is Ming!
Gandhi: **** each time I've attacked Ming, he always shut down the computer... he's a badass players!!
Xerxes: Oh no we dont want to die, let's offer Gold and Tech to the great mastar Ming, he gonna be happy!!
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So that's why Ming is so good at Civilization!
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Last edited by CrONoS; June 12, 2003 at 19:40.
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June 12, 2003, 23:17
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Warlord
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June 12, 2003, 23:54
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King
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continued...
Tokugawa: I can't figure out why my giant armada of 2 galleys and 2 frigrates can't seem to penetrate Player1's defenses.
Elizabeth: pffft... Men, Player1 fears my navy
Gandhi: Oh really? From what I hear, Player1 sinks all your ships and hate your bit*hiness
Elizabeth: Look whose talking. Just because some losers at Apolyton dedicate threads to playing your Civ doesn't mean your more important than the rest of us.
Gandhi: Oh yes I am
Tokugawa: eh?
Gandhi: That's because I'm Player1!
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June 13, 2003, 04:59
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Deity
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June 13, 2003, 05:34
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Warlord
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June 13, 2003, 10:53
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Warlord
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yup i experienced the a same thing one spain sold me find artistry for 12 gp nothing more or less 12 gp as a limp sum and they had just doscovered it
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June 13, 2003, 12:59
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Emperor
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That's pretty funny Dexters. I could imagine it going something like that.
Back on topic, yes the AI does have the ability to totally disregard deals it has made, just like a human player would do. In my recent Monarch game as Carthage I was heading toward a peaceful build-up of forces. I had ROPs and excellent relations with every AI civ. Lizzie had sent 3 English warriors roaming around my territory, and when they got close to the one city I hadn't put a defender in, they attacked! It just so happened that I had completed my switch out of despotism the turn before so in taking back my city and taking a few English cities I also entered my Golden Age. Hmm, thanks for your stupidity Lizzie.
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