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Old June 13, 2003, 06:02   #31
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Things are getting rough with Castro and he is showing lately signs of panic. This confrontation with the EU is kinda spastic as a reaction, which only escalates tension over a previous action of the regime, the persecution of the "dissidents"-"foreign agents". That was also a sign of weakness, against the escalating pressure of the USA. It kind of reminds me of Stalin's paranoia, that saw an imperialist agent behind every dissident and eventually every strong party executive. This is a very different case of course.

Cuba should stop seeing itself as the last bastion of Socialism which should be defended even at the expense of the truth and the freedom of it's people. It should concentrate in it's huge problems that keep it away of a fair socialist society and lead to it's degeneration. The people in Cuba are well educated and care deeply for their country and I bet they would respond to revolutionary measures that would restore equality and popular control over the economy.

It would be a pity if Cuba were to prove that even the best cases of "existant socialism" would need to be destroyed by capitalism before any new socialist movement gets to have another try at the Revolution.
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Old June 13, 2003, 07:50   #32
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Comandande Che Guevara

I have a great CD with cuban musicians and the anthem in greek


prime quality stuff.
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Old June 13, 2003, 08:03   #33
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Did you notice how much fuss is KNE making about Cuba nowdays? I guess their party line is defence of "socialism" in Cuba by all means.

Stalinist freaks. When I told one of them that the best way to defend socialism in Cuba is to do some heavy criticism on the regime, he replied that this is exactly what the Americans are waiting for and that socialists should put up a rigid external front, in order to fight back imperialism.
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Old June 13, 2003, 08:06   #34
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I hate it when KNE becomes like the Americans: rigid thinkers.

I don't like KKE in general though, monilitikoi
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a propos, o orange einai athina les na pame na ton doume kai na pioyme kana kafe? mou esteile minima
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Old June 13, 2003, 10:12   #36
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I am sure you would do that
We are all interested please continue in your description of how you would use his teeth if you have finally killed him
I was just angry..

But it doesn't matter... because he will dead soon enough as he is getting very old. And with him communism in Cuba.
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Fez, I will never forget the sight and sound of one of Pinochet's sons angry about the arrest of their father in London.

"How dare they! These fascist thugs..." (he was clearly very, very drunk).

Still makes me chuckle. My point being, reacting in anger never does your arguments any good. Hey, that's given me an idea for a new thread...
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Old June 13, 2003, 12:16   #38
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When you have to give everyone a paid day off and bus them to the demonstration site, it kind of kills that spontaneous heart felt feel atmosphere.

This is just another indication of how bad cuba is being flushed down the toilet economy wise.

Another wag the dog move.

Ho Hum.

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Castro is a smart person. He must realize how irrelevent he is.
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Castro will never die. I think he found the Fountain of Youth somewhere in the jungle. He's like Lee Kuan Yew in Singapore - won't give us the satisfaction.
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I can wait till the day when I raid Cuba and kill Castro with 50 cal. Machine gun. ASS=Fidel
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