June 13, 2003, 09:59
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Friday the 13th: a "foreign brought" jinx.
Aν φοβάστε την... Παρασκευή και 13 είναι καιρός να το ξεπεράσετε. Eίναι μια δεισιδαιμονία που δεν μας αφορά. Eίναι μια «ξενόφερτη» γρουσουζιά που, όπως υπογραμμίζουν οι λαογράφοι, δεν έχει σχέση με την ελληνική παράδοση ή την ελληνική ιστορία.
If you're afraid about... Fridy the 13th it's time to get over it. It is a "foreign brought" jinx which, as the laographers (folklore researchers) underline, has no relation with Hellenic tradition or Hellenic history.
Όλα ξεκίνησαν την Παρασκευή 13 Οκτωβρίου 1307, στη Γαλλία. Eκείνη την ημέρα σφαγιάστηκαν 1.500 ιππότες των Nαϊτών, ενός θρησκευτικού τάγματος της εποχής με μεγάλη δύναμη και ακόμα μεγαλύτερη πολιτική επιρροή. Ήταν, λένε οι πηγές της ιστορίας, ένα σχέδιο του τότε βασιλιά της Γαλλίας Φιλίππου με σκοπό να απαλλαχθεί απο ένα τάγμα με πολιτική δύναμη που ίσως αποτελούσε απειλή για τα πολιτικά του σχέδια.
It all started on Friday 13th of 1307, in France. At that day, 1,500 knights of the Naites were slaughtered, a religious faction with gret power and even greater political influence.
It was, history sources say, a plan of the then king of frane Philip, with the aim for him to be delivered from a faction with political power that may have threatened his political schemes.
Οι Nαΐτες, ωστόσο, υποτίθεται ότι την εποχή εκείνη κατείχαν το μυστικό της κρυψώνας της ιερής σινδόνης (του σεντονιού δηλαδή στο οποίο πιστεύεται ότι εναπόθεσαν το νεκρό σώμα του Xριστού όταν το κατέβασαν απο τον Σταυρό).
However, the Naites were supposed at that time to hold the secret of the hiding place of the holy sindone (the sheet upon which it is believed that the body of Jesus Christ was placed after they removed him dead from the Cross).
ʼρα η ημέρα εκείνη (Παρασκευή και 13) θεωρήθηκε «αποφράδα» για τη δυτική, θεοκρατούμενη Eυρώπη. Πάντως οι Έλληνες λαογράφοι θεωρούν ότι πρόκειται για μια ξενόφερτη μόδα. «Kάτι που μας ήρθε με τις ταινίες του Xόλιγουντ όπως λένε.
hence that day (Friday and 13th) it was deemed «apofrada» (~despicable~/destructive) for the western theocratic Europe. However Hellenic loagraphers deem that it is a foreign brought fashion. «Something that came from Hollywood movies» as they say.
«H ελληνική παράδοση θεωρεί γρουσούζικη ημέρα την Tρίτη και 13 και μόνο. Eίναι η ημέρα που «έπεσε» η Kωνσταντινούπολη (Tρίτη 13 Mαΐου 1453)» εξηγεί η λαογράφος κα Πόπη Zώρα.
«The Hellenic tradition deems Tuesday the 13th as the only jinx day. It is the day that Constantinople "fallen" (Teusday 13th 1453)» explains laographer Ms Popi Zora.
«Οι γάμοι δεν γίνονταν ποτέ εκείνες τις ημέρες, τα σπίτια ήταν κλειστά για επισκέψεις, γλέντια ή γιορτές. Ήταν μια ημέρα που παλαιότερα δεν κλείνονταν εμπορικές συμφωνίες, που δεν παίρνονταν σοβαρές επαγγελματικές αποφάσεις. Ήταν ένας τρόπος να θυμόμαστε, ως έθνος, για πάντα μια "μαύρη ημέρα" στην ελληνική ιστορία».
«Weddings were never performed at those days, the homes were closed to social visits, festivities or celebrations. It was a day were, in older times, no trade deals were finilizaed and no serious professional decisions were made. It was a day for us to remember, as an ethnos, for ever the "black day" in Hellenic history»
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June 13, 2003, 10:08
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Jason's going to get you!
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June 13, 2003, 10:09
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Settler
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I always knew why teusday the 13th was the jinx day but I always wondered why the rest of Europe considered Friday the 13th as the jinx day.
On a relevant note (hell am I lifting the average quality of OT or what) the Holy Sindone, or Holy Sheet, is residing in a museumin Germany (or is it some german town tht french took?)
I remember i saw it once but don't remember which museum was it or which town.
Any ideas?
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June 13, 2003, 10:16
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Friday the 13th was a sorrowful day for my order of knights.... 
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June 13, 2003, 10:32
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Jason's going to get you!
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Doesnt he have to get the Golden Fleece first?
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June 13, 2003, 10:34
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In France, Friday 13th is a lucky day. At least, that's what the Lottery says. it always gives higher gains for the Friday 13th, and expects many more clients.
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June 13, 2003, 10:40
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Originally posted by paiktis22
Doesnt he have to get the Golden Fleece first?
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You're no fun. You make a thread about Friday the 13th and don't know about the movies by the same name?!?!
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June 13, 2003, 10:42
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Settler
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Yes monneypenney.
Now go look for that museum with the holy sindone.
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June 13, 2003, 11:16
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Originally posted by paiktis22
Doesnt he have to get the Golden Fleece first?
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I reminded one of my Japanese students about Jason and the Argonauts not too long ago. He had seen Friday the 13th and told me that it would be strange to name someone Jason after that movie. So I told him about the other Jason. Then I described that cool scene where he fights the skeleton warriors.
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June 13, 2003, 11:23
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My team's Gate number is 13. Which might explain why we've been losing the championship to Olympiakos for the last 7 years.
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June 13, 2003, 11:39
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Is it possible that they're just not very good? 
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June 13, 2003, 11:40
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Of course not.
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June 13, 2003, 11:42
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The supernatural conspiracy becomes even more apparent when you think that the Gate number of Olympiakos is 7. Can't get more crystal clear than that.
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June 13, 2003, 11:56
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I was born in 13th...  . I was lucky in the way most men can only dream.
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June 13, 2003, 13:46
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Originally posted by paiktis22
The supernatural conspiracy becomes even more apparent when you think that the Gate number of Olympiakos is 7. Can't get more crystal clear than that.
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Just repaint the numbers on the gates.
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June 13, 2003, 14:02
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makes a good day for a birthday 
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June 13, 2003, 14:15
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The expression in the UK is "13 - unlucky for some".
I've met people who live in fear of the number 13. Can't remeber the name of it now - Drydeckaphobia? Something like that.
I was told that the superstition came from 12 apostles +Thaddeus + Judas - but that's probably complete rubbish.
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June 13, 2003, 14:58
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[q]I've met people who live in fear of the number 13.[q]
Many hotels will not have a ;
Room 13,
Floor 13
meatingroom 13
etc.
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June 13, 2003, 15:24
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Triskaidekaphobia.
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June 13, 2003, 15:32
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My grandmother was born on Friday the 13...Her family was ultra superstitious, so they legally changed her birthday to the 14th.
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