Favorite Specials

Ming · June 13, 2003, 12:23

Inspired by this old bumped thread... and this post,

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...50#post2078750

Let's see if people's minds have changed at all

I've made it Multiple Choice, so you can vote for as many as you want... but try to just vote for your real favorite ones.

Count me for Gold, Whales, Silk and Wine.

Cobra · June 13, 2003, 15:23

I voted for Gold, whales and Wine

Six Thousand Year Old Man · June 13, 2003, 19:53

Silk, Whales, and Buffalo.

Glad to have been inspiratorial.

Hydey · June 13, 2003, 20:08

I love the 4 whale city

Panag · June 13, 2003, 22:34

hi ,

, to bad some of these did not make it in CIV III and PTW , lets hope for the new XP , .....

buffalo , fruit , musk ox and peat

where are the good old days , ....

have a nice day

rjmatsleepers · June 14, 2003, 02:54

Whoops - I didn't notice that it's multiple choice so I only voted for whales. If anyone is counting, please add votes for silk and spice - which sounds like the Thai restaurant I used to go to in Fitzrovia.

RJM at Sleepers

DrSpike · June 14, 2003, 05:51

Whale, Silk.

Ming · June 14, 2003, 10:00

Quote:

Originally posted by rjmatsleepers
Whoops - I didn't notice that it's multiple choice so I only voted for whales. If anyone is counting, please add votes for silk and spice

No problem... I added them in for you

Makeo · June 14, 2003, 12:21

whale and wine

Smash · June 14, 2003, 13:14

I'm going to think of this as what 4 I would want in my "perfect" city.At least before someone like the above poster came along and sacked it

I gotta have a whale for that first worker.In fact 2 whales.Then wine of course and ideally a river wheat square which I would later change to silk.

A mined oasis or ivory can be very good squares.

where is ivory?

SCG · June 14, 2003, 14:33

gold (do i hear rivered gold?)
wine - ideal for a science city needing extra production
silk/wheat - i count this as one, because i usually use both - wheat for various growth periods, silk for trade
whales - excellent starter space
spice - excellent starter space

honorable mention: ivory - better than silk (same food, production if mined, more trade), but usually means there are a lot of bad spaces in the area

Ming · June 14, 2003, 18:02

Quote:

Originally posted by Smash
where is ivory?

Hmmm... left it off. Well, I added it in. Thanks for pointing that out.

C-F-G · June 15, 2003, 07:34

A mined Goldcity

mined wine is nice too

And whale is okay

edit: Don't forget spice - nice groth/trade

La Fayette · June 15, 2003, 11:20

whales = #1 (you get it all without moving a finger)
then silk/wheat, because of the fine combination.

Andemagne · June 15, 2003, 19:55

same as La Fayette, whales.

monolith94 · June 15, 2003, 21:14

Coal

Marquis de Sodaq · June 15, 2003, 21:27

Whales! Not only good, the AI can't sit on them to disrupt their use.

Spice is my favorite for a city spot, should no other specials be available. Wine is my other vote - dig a hole, et voila! many shields and arrows together. Also a good spot for a city.

Grigor · June 16, 2003, 05:00

bananas and wxeat. Getting the city to size 3 at makimum speed.

rah · June 16, 2003, 17:46

Quote:

Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq
Whales! Not only good, the AI can't sit on them to disrupt their use.

Unlike in Civ I where you could disrupt it with a ship. That let to some good sea battles.

atawa · June 16, 2003, 18:08

Silk and peat, preferably in the same city.
Then again, from the votes here it seems things are different in 1x production.

atawa · June 16, 2003, 18:09

Why do people like wine so much?

(Besides using the mined citybug that is)

Cobra · June 16, 2003, 18:59

[QUOTE] Originally posted by atawa
Why do people like wine so much?

Have you ever built your first city on wine? I don´t think so. Try it! (without mining)

rah · June 17, 2003, 11:05

Yes, if you build in on it, at least you get the free shield. While it's nice to have it mined, it's not necessary.
Good Trade. It's like building on the gold to get the one free food.

Cyrion · June 17, 2003, 11:34

Quote:

Originally posted by atawa
Why do people like wine so much?

Ask the SGs...

Old n Slow · June 19, 2003, 14:47

Whales & Wine (like the majority). If we were to count each resource equally, the Whales would = 7 at face value, the best; 6 at the despot start -- also the best & 10 maxed out (with a harbor, offshore & in a democracy), near the best. BTW, a shielded grassland maxed out would = 8 for comparison (better than some specials) and I calculated Max Wine = 11 (1 F, 5 shield (Mine & RR), 6 arrows (4 + 1 for Dem & 1 for SH -- but on a reread that might be more).

Hard to say which resource is more critical in the early game -- later on, the need for shields decreases relative to the other two.

atawa · June 19, 2003, 16:59

I still would say that if I had the choice of 2 specials in my cap it would be peat and spice, use the peat for the settler factory and then the spice to catch up in science.

rah · June 19, 2003, 18:53

....and then the spice to catchup in science,..and food.

Ming · June 20, 2003, 01:53

It's interesting to see fish and fruit at 0.

However, I'm surprised to see gems at 0. At least they generate trade.

Ben Kenobi · June 20, 2003, 07:04

What can you do with gems?

I say wine because of the mining,

Oil, for the production.

and Wheat for food production, in that order.

Six Thousand Year Old Man · June 20, 2003, 09:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Ming
It's interesting to see fish and fruit at 0.

However, I'm surprised to see gems at 0. At least they generate trade.

Fish suffer in comparison with whales. I always get annoyed by how I'm constantly moving workers off fish and onto whales, whenever my city grows.

In TOT, 'fruit' is an animated banana peeling itself... were that icon in regular civ2, it'd have my vote

I seldom see gems as a special in the city radius, mainly because the base terrain doesn't make much of a city site, and consequently I seldom found cities near gems. Same goes for oil and ivory.