Turn Chat Transcripts

[Snowflake]

Ok demonstrate to us how masses of insects will facilitate the pop booming purposes.

[Jamski]

There's a great turnchat coming up...

-Jam

[Kody]

Jamski says:
Hey
Jamski says:
Its a bit early on saturday morning for you
John says:
like I said saturday morning
Jamski says:
Its still friday night here
Jamski says:
for 16 minutes
John says:
heh
John says:
so we going to do this?
Jamski says:
yes

WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? has been added to the conversation.

Jamski says:
or do you want to wait for Vev?
John says:
I just need to finish a post to buster
John says:
vev doesn't get on during the weekend
Jamski says:
Ok
Jamski says:
He gets OFF instead
Jamski says:
I'm going to smoke a cig then
Jamski says:
back in 5 mins
John says:
okay

Vev has been added to the conversation.

Jamski says:
back
Jamski says:
hmmm?
Jamski says:
Johnnie boy?
John says:
yep
John says:
just finishing skimming the forums
Jamski says:
so
Jamski says:
what do we have?
John says:
well open up the preturn
Jamski says:
bloody pop-ups
Jamski says:
Preturn update 2138
Jamski says:
got it
Jamski says:
depends on the VolksWagen though...
John says:
we should tell honghu to get on too
Jamski says:
worth a try
John says:
the lack of forest growth is disappointing
Jamski says:
you have the turn open?
John says:
our last growth of forest was 2 turns ago
John says:
yeah
John says:
just looking
Jamski says:
ok tell me the bad news
John says:
huh?
Jamski says:
VW?
John says:
I opened it last night and saw the build messages
John says:

Jamski says:
and...
John says:
you can open a turn then save it again
Jamski says:
is it built?
John says:
and you don't get the reload messages
John says:
yeah

Comrade Micha / Province 14 / Pits Of Pity has been added to the conversation.

Jamski says:
Hey Micha
John says:
hi micha
Comrade Micha / Province 14 / Pits Of Pity says:
Hey
John says:
just in time to sit back and watch Jamski pasting stuff from the forum in MSN
Jamski says:
We're playing the turn
Comrade Micha / Province 14 / Pits Of Pity says:
hehe
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
Back
Jamski says:
so it IS built or what
John says:
yep
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
Did we get the VW?
Jamski says:
we did
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
YES
Jamski says:
YAY!
Jamski says:

John says:
buster even said so
John says:
if you bothered to check the embassy
Jamski says:
YAY!
Jamski says:
YAY!
Jamski says:
YAY!
Comrade Micha / Province 14 / Pits Of Pity says:
Yeehaa
Jamski says:
GLORY TO THE HIVE
John says:
also that brings up the problem of what the cycon will think
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
EVEN MORE GLORY TO THE HIVE
Jamski says:
they'll be rat-mad-pissed
John says:
buster said they never canceled their SP
Jamski says:

Jamski says:
so they'll still be trying to build it
Jamski says:
yippeeeeee
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
They may be researching something that will give them another SP
John says:
so they probably have masses of minerals queued
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
and will switch to that
Jamski says:
or they may try for the ME?
John says:
what other SPs are there
Jamski says:
or did Buster just get it?
John says:
citizens defence
John says:
buster got ME
Jamski says:
GLORY TO THE DRONES!
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
hopefuly they do not go for CN
Jamski says:
they don't have loyalty
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
good
Jamski says:
do they?
John says:
loyalty is too far away
Comrade Micha / Province 14 / Pits Of Pity says:
yeah...
John says:
they need to get ethical first
Jamski says:
WUNDEBAR!
John says:
that doesn't work if you don't put the in
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
Good
Jamski says:

WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
So we're then set for CN as planned?
John says:
2141
Jamski says:
this is going really too well
Jamski says:
we need to think about protecting all these lovely SPs
John says:
heh first we've got a permi-pact
John says:
we got IA first too
John says:
and our ally and us have built all the really early SPs
Jamski says:
and we have all the goos SPs between us and our pactmates
Jamski says:
indeed
Jamski says:
so, on with 2138
John says:
still our tech is an issue
Jamski says:
before we kill ourselves with saying how good we are
John says:
okay give it to me in small chunks
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
Well let us hope the VW will not damage our relations with the CyCon too much
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
we could use them for the tech
John says:
well if they not mircomanaging like we are
Jamski says:
perhaps the Uni may have to be re-assessed as an ally
John says:
we'll probably be out-teching them
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
yes indeed
Jamski says:
lol
Jamski says:
Hive out-techs cycon
John says:
well that's the truth
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
it can be done
John says:
mircomanagement is a very important part of playing alpha centuari
Jamski says:
indeed it is
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
potentialy the Hive can out tech the uni (requires an exuberant sum of bases)
Jamski says:
or just a few nodes
John says:
nah just requires getting the ME a couple of trawlers on tidal harasses
John says:
then building all the +research facilites in that one base
Jamski says:
thanks Drones
John says:
no actually the drones are in a better position to do the tech
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
one question that needs to be brought up
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
what now?
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
we're well out our way to victory
John says:
formers
John says:
lots of formers
John says:
we're not victorious yet
John says:
it's still 3 against 2
John says:
if we stuff things up
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
yes
Jamski says:
you think that's likely?
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
but it's 3 self-serving factions against two permipacted ones
Jamski says:
3 vs 2 I mean
John says:
but an alliance will form if we show our hand
Jamski says:
FORWARDS IN SOLIDARITY
Jamski says:
lets get another faction on baord
John says:
I guess I was wrong about all those other factions being pacted
Jamski says:
so if it is 2 vs 3
Jamski says:
we are in the 3
Jamski says:
not in the 2
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
i have no objections to that
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
except
John says:
buster will object
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
that other faction should not be involved in the permipact
Jamski says:
its temporary
John says:
so the university?
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
not even temporary
John says:
buster will object to the university I think
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
we should pursue realpolitik from now on
Jamski says:
after we three conquer then we and the drones can turn on the third party
John says:
which is exactly what they'll think
John says:
the cycon are actually still our best bet
John says:
because people say they're more polticians
Jamski says:
I agreee
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
we could always make a deal with the third faction that we will take out the drones after, it would be a lie of course
John says:
so that means they'll be the weakest faction?
Jamski says:
but they'll be rat-mad-pissed
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
so?
John says:
no outright lies
John says:
please
Jamski says:
they may damage our rep
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
Where a lie is necessary, let it be spoken. Our objective is the same whether we use lies or the truth to achieve it. People lie when they expect to profit from others' falling for their lies, and they tell the truth for the same reason -- to attract some profit to themselves or to gain more room to manoeuvre in.
John says:
the idea is only that we keep the cycon from joining in fully with the pirates and university
Jamski says:
I tell the truth out of principle
Jamski says:
apart from stories about lost colony opds
Comrade Micha / Province 14 / Pits Of Pity says:
lol
John says:
heh
John says:
can you dribble bits of the turn
John says:
I can start doing those little bits while you talk
Jamski says:
DIRNDL
Jamski says:
ok
John says:
like 3 lines at a time maybe since you guys are talking
Jamski says:
Other detals

Rename requested, St. Octaviansburg.
May need to insert loyalty into drone negotiation window.
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
We will put the matter to a public vote, since I will not (for political reasons) overrule your on the matter. I still believe that realpolitik should be the guiding principle of our unified foreign policy.
Jamski says:
we could use one more temporary friend
Jamski says:
Pirates if we want a war
Jamski says:
Uni of Cycon if we want tech
John says:
pirate definiately not
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
I agree
John says:
they're too slick
Jamski says:
John, just say MORE when you want more
Jamski says:
slick?
John says:
it comes thorough their diplomancy
John says:
more
Jamski says:
Like oil slick?
John says:
yeah
Jamski says:
Production queue
The Hive - Former, stockpile, rush buy 6ECs
Voltariograd - Former, stockpile
Kommuniza City - Former, stockpile
Jamski Clove - Former, stockpile
Central Planning - Former, stockpile
HongHu-KongHu - Former, stockpile
Rokossovkygrad - Former, stockpile
Googliegrad - Former, stockpile
Vevtopia - colony pod
St. Octaviansburg - supply crawler, stockpile
Jamski says:
That should keep John busy
John says:
hrmm so much
Jamski says:
its all former, stockpile
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
We need to address another issue.
Jamski says:
which is?
Comrade Micha / Province 14 / Pits Of Pity says:
...?
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
If we are to engage in conquest we must do it before planetbusters become available, and when they do we must have them. Enough of them to guarantee mutually assured destruction in case of a first strike.
Jamski says:
true
Comrade Micha / Province 14 / Pits Of Pity says:
hehe, long lives the cold war... :P
Jamski says:
or before another faction can build more than a couple
Jamski says:
perhaps we should consider a PB bee-line
Jamski says:
it will get pretty hot
Jamski says:
do we found any bases this turn?
John says:
we need to somehow disrupt the tech rate of the university if we're going to fight them
John says:
next turn
Jamski says:
or keep up with massive probing
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
A few PB's might do that
John says:
yeah but that's the problem
Jamski says:
ind33d
John says:
university is going to make it there before us
Jamski says:
they'll get there first
Jamski says:
we need to hamper them a bit
Comrade Micha / Province 14 / Pits Of Pity says:
but having the tech doesn´t mean having the pb´s itself
John says:
next part
Jamski says:
just 4-5 units will distracts them
Jamski says:
Work reallocation
Kommuniza City - Worker from "farm" to "forest"
Googliegrad - Worker from "rainy rolling" to "forest"
Voltairegrad - Keep workers on forests (-1 nutrient)
Vevtopia - Worker from "rolling river nut" to "any rolling square"
Central Planning - Worker from "forest" to "rainy rolling river"
Central Planning - Worker from "forest" to "rainy rolling river nut"
John says:
micha, we're talking veterans
Jamski says:
ta-daa
John says:
gah
John says:
it's already scrolled off
Jamski says:
make full screen window of MSN
John says:
the whole point is that I can see the game while looking at the instructions
Jamski says:
ah
Jamski says:
then don't
Jamski says:
Are you looking at Dirndl pr0n again?
John says:
*shrug*
John says:
what next?
Jamski says:
ummm
John says:
it takes longer when I need to scroll up for each instruction
Jamski says:
Non-Military Movement
(Kommuniza City) colony pod - goto (18,26)
(21,11) Former - move (23,11), build forest
(20,12) Former - move (23,11), build forest
(20,12) Former - move (20,16), build road
(18,16) Former - move (20,16), build road
(18,26) Former - move (18,24), build forest
(18,24) Former - move (18,26), build sensor
(26,28) Former - move (26,30), build road
(26,28) Former - move (26,30), bu
John says:
hrmm wierd
John says:
you didn't paste it all
Jamski says:
tell me when you want the second half
John says:
hrmm buster is really pumping up his terraformers
Jamski says:
so are we, looking at the build queues

Comrade Micha / Province 14 / Pits Of Pity has left the conversation.

[Kody]

John says:
okay
Jamski says:
(26,28) Former - move (26,30), build road
(26,28) Former - move (26,30), build road
(10,18) Former - move (8,18), build road
(9,17) Former - move (8,18), build road
Jamski says:
there you go
John says:
next
Jamski says:
done already?
John says:
yeah I remember most of the moves
Jamski says:
Crawler Movement
(24,20) Crawler - move (20,22), crawl minerals 2
(Central Planing) Crawler - move (18,18), crawl minerals 2
(Jamski Clove) Crawler - move (23,19), crawl minerals 2
(26,20) Crawler - move (24,20), crawl minerals 2
(Rokossovkygrad) Crawler - move (26,20), crawl minerals 2
(The Hive) Crawler - move (Rokossovkygrad), rehome Rokossovkygrad, move (29,21) crawl minerals 2
John says:
the real problem is the one or two I forget
John says:
that's why this checking
Jamski says:
more crawlers to come
Jamski says:

John says:
adjusting (24,20) Crawler - move (20,22), crawl minerals 2
John says:
to
John says:
destination (19,19)
Jamski says:
that's it
Jamski says:
(28,24) Crawler - move (27,23), crawl minerals 4
(27,23) Crawler - move (28,24), crawl minerals 2
(Googliegrad) Crawler - move (22,22), crawl minerals 2
John says:
no
John says:
that wasn't it
Jamski says:
no THAT was it
Jamski says:
that wasn't IT
John says:
can you repaste
Jamski says:
(28,24) Crawler - move (27,23), crawl minerals 4
(27,23) Crawler - move (28,24), crawl minerals 2
(Googliegrad) Crawler - move (22,22), crawl minerals 2
Jamski says:
anythime
John says:
the one previous to that
John says:
which scrolled off
Jamski says:
Crawler Movement
(24,20) Crawler - move (20,22), crawl minerals 2
(Central Planing) Crawler - move (18,18), crawl minerals 2
(Jamski Clove) Crawler - move (23,19), crawl minerals 2
(26,20) Crawler - move (24,20), crawl minerals 2
(Rokossovkygrad) Crawler - move (26,20), crawl minerals 2
(The Hive) Crawler - move (Rokossovkygrad), rehome Rokossovkygrad, move (29,21) crawl minerals 2
John says:
gah I made some changes
John says:
but didn't put them into the preturn
Jamski says:
nothing serious I hope?
John says:
(Jamski Clove) Crawler - move (23,19), crawl minerals 2

change to (23,15)
Jamski says:
not the end of the world by any means
John says:
it was a mircomanagement issue, needed more minerals in Rokossovky to rush build the recycling tank in a following turn.
Jamski says:
ah
John says:
I played ahead 6 turns
Jamski says:
you're actually IMPROVING you know
John says:
and found we could improve our tech by making 2 mini science cities
Jamski says:
Cool
John says:
and it required a few adjustments
Jamski says:
anythoing to get our slack tech-rate up
John says:
which is why the crawlers changed
John says:
our tech rate is 36
Jamski says:
#Deputy Chairman Approved#
Jamski says:
36 turns?
John says:
the drone's is 42.4
Jamski says:
or 36 labs per turn
John says:
labs per turn
Jamski says:
phew
John says:
and it's going to keep increasing as we put more cities down
Jamski says:
we need to get it up though
John says:
our tech rate is 7 per turn
Jamski says:
with the VW its a crime not to build nodes
Jamski says:
Military
(15,13) Rover - move (11,17)
(13,27) Rover - move (15,27), pray for another mindworm
(Googliegrad) scout - goto (Rokossovkygrad)
(Kommuniza city) scout - goto (Googliegrad), rehome
Jamski says:
more moves
John says:
how about the 2nd batch of crawlers?
John says:
with network nodes we stop gaining stockpile energy
Jamski says:
(28,24) Crawler - move (27,23), crawl minerals 4
(27,23) Crawler - move (28,24), crawl minerals 2
(Googliegrad) Crawler - move (22,22), crawl minerals 2
Jamski says:
as you wish
John says:
unless I rush them
Jamski says:
rush everything we can
Jamski says:
that's how to win
John says:
yeah but we only start building nodes that we have enough money to rush
Jamski says:
ok
Jamski says:
sounds safe to me
John says:
otherwise we lose out on stockpile energy
Jamski says:
how does the powergraph look?
Jamski says:
yes
John says:
we're about 180% of the university
Jamski says:
LOL
John says:
Hive is about 120% above the data angels
Jamski says:
Hive > j00
John says:
data angels are about 120% above the believers
John says:
believers are about 110% above the pirates
John says:
drones followed by cycon, with university at last place
Jamski says:
so a clear lead, followed by the AI
Jamski says:
ha!
Jamski says:
the other factions can't even compete with the AI
John says:
I think I've figured out why the AI has so much power
Jamski says:
they started with 3 bases each?
John says:
I've realised you get alot of powergraph when you have lots of money in your bank
Jamski says:
ah
John says:
because in one of my earlier turns I watched the hive shrink from first place
Jamski says:
not like us then
Jamski says:
as we spent cash?
John says:
to 2nd place, after I had used up all our money in rushing crawlers
John says:
*nod*
Jamski says:
clear as soup
John says:
okay two more issues to take care of
Jamski says:
fire away
John says:
rovers
John says:
what should we do with our rover teams
Jamski says:
(15,13) Rover - move (11,17)
(13,27) Rover - move (15,27), pray for another mindworm
(Googliegrad) scout - goto (Rokossovkygrad)
(Kommuniza city) scout - goto (Googliegrad), rehome
John says:
hunt mindworms?
Jamski says:
that's what we have in the preturn
Jamski says:
I thought mobile police?
John says:
ahh I forgot the scout shuffling
Jamski says:
for new bases
Jamski says:
we can't risk losing them to wormies
John says:
the new bases already have scouts defending them
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
I must go
WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? says:
ttyl

WWJD - for a Klondike Bar? has left the conversation.

Jamski says:
bye
John says:
okay cya
John says:
*sigh*
John says:
people take such a interest in the turns nowadays
Jamski says:
but they need one turn's protection untill the scouts are built?
John says:
oh oh I've got an idea
Jamski says:
*sighs too*
Jamski says:
ok
Jamski says:
keep your hat on
John says:
change lets pretend to be morgan
John says:
this turn
Jamski says:

Jamski says:
for the picture?
John says:
*snicker*
John says:
nope
John says:
change our faction's name and all those things to morgan
Jamski says:
free market?
Jamski says:
LOL
Jamski says:
that would be hilarious
John says:
the two new bases that are getting built
Jamski says:
no - better
Jamski says:
change it to Mim
John says:
already have scouts sitting on them
Jamski says:
oh
Jamski says:
well, that was good planning
John says:
they've basically got scouts sitting on the sensors
Jamski says:
cool
Jamski says:

John says:
vevtopia is getting abandonned and rebuilt
Jamski says:
and Jamski Clovek?
John says:
yeah
John says:
but we're going to make New Jamski!
Jamski says:

Jamski says:
not
John says:
okay so the rovers do what?
Jamski says:
We need to get cash
Jamski says:
so worm crawl them
John says:
more mindworm hunting
Jamski says:
up and down the fungus
John says:
hrmm no mindworm
John says:
how does mindworm popping work
Jamski says:
maybe outside the sensor radius?
Jamski says:
then its a ramdom chance
John says:
they're outside sensor radius
John says:
yeah
Jamski says:
random then
John says:
but is there anyway to increase it?
Jamski says:
nope
Jamski says:
fungus *pop*
Jamski says:
taht brings a few worms into play
John says:
hrmm
John says:
I think mindworms are more likely in fungus you haven't walked into before
Jamski says:
but *popping* to get cash is a bit silly
Jamski says:
I really have no idea
John says:
we've got a commando rover
Jamski says:

John says:
if we switch from wealth it would be elite!
Jamski says:
perfect for hunting
Jamski says:
keep it to upgrade in the future
Jamski says:
and then wehn we go power for our war...
Jamski says:

John says:
*nod*
Jamski says:
so, are you changing names to Morgan
John says:
what do you think?
Jamski says:
nah
Jamski says:
just post it
Jamski says:
we have a reputation for speed to maintain
John says:
if you want to do that we just need to stop having turn chats
John says:
there's 8 hours saved every 2nd turn
Jamski says:
I like the turn chats
Jamski says:
Although a lot of them seem to be just me and you ...
Jamski says:
Does anyone else even care?
John says:
not sure
Jamski says:
Even Mrs Jamski knows more about the progress than some Hive members
John says:
chairman insists that we have them
Jamski says:
I insist too
John says:
okay then
John says:
doing a final sweep
Jamski says:
if you insist as well
Jamski says:
GROW FOREST GROW
Jamski says:
tell it to grow John
John says:
grow forest grow
John says:
darn fungal bloom
John says:
only the fungus is pyschic
Jamski says:
fungus = worm catching patch
Jamski says:

John says:
not when it's right near our city
Jamski says:
hmm
Jamski says:
get forest on it soon then
Jamski says:
but that won't be a problem with our growing former army
John says:
there's a good reason for our former army
John says:
it's to take care of all the new bases we're planting in the near future
Jamski says:
can we make a deal with Buster that one of his formers comes to us and makes b-holes
John says:
possibly
Jamski says:
yes
John says:
the main problem is it takes so long moving there
Jamski says:
true
John says:
and then it takes like 24 turns for a single former to build a borehole
John says:
so basically by the time it finishes
Jamski says:
by the time it gets here, we'll have the tech, perhaps
John says:
we'll probably have the tech
Jamski says:
nice idea though
John says:
yeah I thought about it too
Jamski says:
maybe he can send us 4 or 5
Jamski says:
Its a good PBEM trick
John says:
you mean half his terraformers?
John says:
I doubt that will work
Jamski says:
we base soldiers in his bases in return
John says:
if we had monorail it might work
John says:
he's running freemarket
John says:
soldiers don't do much
Jamski says:
not LONG till that tech now
Jamski says:
protect him
John says:
it's a long way
Jamski says:
at no support
Jamski says:
well, after we get roads in place
Jamski says:
we can consider the possiblities again

[Jamski]

odd as always...

-Jam

[Vev]

As usual hard to read in that format.

[Kody]

Okay yet again we find that nobody thought to keep the turn chat.

Turn 2139 unsaved.

[Vev]

Yet another lost in the ether ....

[Vev]

HongHu has been added to the conversation.

Jamski says:
HONHGIE
HongHu says:
jamie
HongHu says:
vevie
Jamski says:
YAY!
Vev says:
hello
Vev says:
it was Jammy yhis time
HongHu says:
lord tass is sending me somehing
Vev says:
drindl?
Jamski says:
and me
Jamski says:
I wish
HongHu says:
what is it
Jamski says:
Dirndl
HongHu says:
wow you leave him like that
Vev says:
a dress
Vev says:
a traditional dress
HongHu says:
I'm not gonna read it
HongHu says:
no time
HongHu says:
you guys do it ok
HongHu says:
I like dresses
HongHu says:
send one
HongHu says:
although I normally don't wear them
Vev says:
what did tass send?
HongHu says:
but there will be occations
Jamski says:
a graph
HongHu says:
lots of words
HongHu says:
lots
Jamski says:
of his post count
Vev says:
you wear pants?
HongHu says:
sure what do you mean?!!!
Jamski says:
at the moment, yes
HongHu says:
lol
HongHu says:
I thought you wear dress too
Vev says:
this is getting confusing
HongHu says:
is it?
Vev says:

Vev says:
so you wear pants and dress?
Jamski says:
I don't wear a dress
HongHu says:
together you mean?
Jamski says:
except in bed
HongHu says:
nope
HongHu says:
oh wow
HongHu says:
I wonder
Vev says:
must be cooler
Jamski says:
it is
Jamski says:
try... www.goatpics.com
HongHu says:
are you sure??
Jamski says:
yes I'm sure
HongHu says:
not hotter?
Jamski says:
cooler
Jamski says:
than pyjamas
Vev says:
but not drindl?
HongHu says:
are you into goats too?
HongHu says:
I thought only sheeps
Jamski says:
What you mean you are as well
HongHu says:
don't send me a bunch of ads ok?
HongHu says:
I am what?
HongHu says:
vev?
Vev says:
???
Vev says:
I am lost again
HongHu says:
just want to see if you are listenning
Jamski says:
It actually exists!
Vev says:
somewhere when goats were mentioned
Jamski says:
www.goatpics.com
HongHu says:
you don't need to actually understand to respond do you
Vev says:
no that I have anything against the union of goats
HongHu says:
not like you
Jamski says:
I like goats
Jamski says:
they are very sensitive animals
HongHu says:
I hear some terrible things you did to them though
HongHu says:
vev and john told me all about that
Jamski says:
Lots of people eat kebabs
HongHu says:
heard that you were actually chained to a pole for that or something right vev?
Jamski says:
Ok, most people kill the goat first, but
HongHu says:
wow
HongHu says:
so that was true wasn't it
Vev says:
live goats?
HongHu says:
ooooo
HongHu says:
and sheeps?
HongHu says:
oh I just remembered
HongHu says:
lambs
Jamski says:
SHEEPS! Do you think I'm sick or something
HongHu says:
lol
HongHu says:
I'm not hundred percent sure for sure
Jamski says:
www.sheepsick.com
Vev says:
http://www.tostmann.at/en/dirndl_klassiker.htm
HongHu says:
not gonna click on that
HongHu says:
not that either
HongHu says:
ok maybe that
Vev says:
the second one is drindl
Jamski says:
its not opening vev
Jamski says:

Vev says:
classical drindl
Vev says:
http://www.tostmann.at/en/dirndl_klassiker.htm
HongHu says:
not openning
Vev says:
hmmm
Jamski says:
still not
HongHu says:
not openning either
Vev says:
darn
Jamski says:
upload the pics on 'poly
HongHu says:
don't listen to him vev
HongHu says:
he can do it himself
HongHu says:
if he wants to get banned
Vev says:
http://www.lederhosen-aigner.de/html/dirndl_engl_.html
HongHu says:
it's all part of a big conspiracy
Jamski says:
YAY!
Vev says:
what about that one?
Jamski says:
It works!
HongHu says:
to get you banned when he plans his evil plan
Jamski says:
YUM Dirndl
Jamski says:
even better than Xenodoughnuts
HongHu says:
there not bad
Jamski says:
indeed not
HongHu says:
you gonna send me one of these vev?
Vev says:
now you understand the nature of drindl
Vev says:
umm
Vev says:
Jamski could get one?
Jamski says:
Mrs J has an old one somewhere
Vev says:
does she uses it?
Jamski says:
nope
HongHu says:
fixing cars for baby
Jamski says:
shame really
Vev says:
your baby drives cars?
Vev says:
wow!
HongHu says:
yes he is talented
HongHu says:
john is here
HongHu says:
we want him?
Vev says:
how does he reach the brake pedal?

John has been added to the conversation.

Vev says:
or accelerator?
HongHu says:
he crawls under the steering wheel
HongHu says:
hi john
Vev says:
teamwork?
Vev says:
hi john

Comrade Micha / Province 14 / Pits Of Pity has been added to the conversation.

HongHu says:
peace was scared of us now
HongHu says:
and wanted peace with us
Kody says:
how do you know that?
Vev says:
what is the legal age for driving in Deutschland?
HongHu says:
offered mobility
Kody says:
really?
HongHu says:
I have sources
Kody says:
where?
Micha says:
Pirates offer mobility and treaty, we built 8 formers and Voltairograd is running low on food
HongHu says:
yep secret sources
Vev says:
Jammy?
Kody says:
cool
Jamski says:

Jamski says:
Nice pics Vev
HongHu says:
fixing car again
Vev says:
that was what Micha found
HongHu says:
part missing
Kody says:
voltairograd is gettig changed to the nut again
Jamski says:
I need to study them at length
Vev says:
Jam was is the legal age for driving?
Jamski says:
long, hard study
Jamski says:
16 i think
HongHu says:
ttyl

[Vev]

Vev says:
and in OstDeutschland?
Kody says:
that sounds cool
Jamski says:
bye Hong
Kody says:
let me check the CGN boards
Jamski says:
k
Vev says:
bye
Micha says:
cya hh
Kody says:
on the mobility thing YES definitely
Jamski says:
shall we invite the Chirman?
Kody says:
hello flex in 2141
Micha says:
what is with Ostdeutschland?
Vev says:
now we can build trabbis!
Micha says:
yeehaaw
Vev says:
some poor 2nd rate half deutsch compound noun
Jamski says:
lol
Kody says:
yikes lots of stuff to read in CGN
Vev says:
burn them ALL!!!
Jamski says:
evil drone heretics!
Vev says:
GLORY TO THE REVOLUTION!!!
Vev says:
how cold does your winter get?
Micha says:
*very* cold
Jamski says:
about -10-20°C
Vev says:
oooh
Vev says:
so outdoor pissing not recommended?
Micha says:
lol
Jamski says:
not the best plan by -2ß
Micha says:
it does provide some stunning effects, though...
Jamski says:
stunns me anyway
Vev says:
like an arch of frozen liquid?
Jamski says:
LOL
Vev says:
not that bad?
Micha says:
hehe
Kody says:
hrmm
Vev says:
that would be at the polar circles/
Vev says:
?
Vev says:
-50?
Vev says:
how far down does it get?
Jamski says:
in the artic?
Micha says:
circles - about -30°C, poles down to -80°C
Vev says:
in germany
Vev says:
excluding wind chill
Micha says:
I experienced -32°C once...
Jamski says:
-20 ist pretty much the normal worst though
Kody says:
we need to talk to the chairman
Kody says:
I think he's got the diplomatic message
Vev says:
does your lungs starts freezing with overexposure at -32 for more than an hour?
Micha says:
not if you breath through your nose...
Vev says:
cold noses
Vev says:
happy cold noses
Micha says:
although this is getting difficult
Vev says:
'this'?
Jamski says:
I can't find any decent dirndl pics with hot girsl
Micha says:
*breathing through nose*
Micha says:
well, I thought I provided some good ones
Vev says:
and not good touching metal stuff either?
Vev says:
a had a log of the ones you put up Micha
Micha says:
lol
Micha says:
touching frozen metal is a MUST !!!
Jamski says:
Yeah, but I need more Micha
Micha says:
search for "Heidi, Heida"
Vev says:
Heidi, Heida touches metal stuff at cold temperatures?
Micha says:
d`Oh
Micha says:
see what you get when you talk to two different people at once?
Jamski says:
Wait, I may have some
Vev says:
but it makes the conversation more interesting
Micha says:
lol, that´s for sure
Kody says:
I'm sending a message to Flubber about the trading
Vev says:
and send a drindl too
Micha says:
what willl you write?
Jamski says:
just send a load of abuse
Kody says:
Greetings Flubber,

The chairman is preoccupied with a lass in his office. So we do not know
what to give you in exchange for mobility. Can you please info me so we do
not have wait on the chairman's private matters.

Kody
Jamski says:
sounds ok to me
Micha says:
ok
Jamski says:
YAY!
Vev says:
drindls!
Micha says:
Drindels?
Jamski says:

Micha says:
did you find anything, Jamski?
Jamski says:
YES
Jamski says:
GOD YES
Jamski says:
Sorry, but its too good to share
Micha says:
hey, Vev, if you´d like to survive for at least one hour in Bavaria, you should remember D - I - R - D - L
Micha says:
guess where the N fits in
Micha says:
SHARE!!!!
Jamski says:
in der kulturelle Aspekte des Masochismus bzw. Fetischismus thematisiert werden, habe ich auch meine Dirndlliebe hinterfragt und bin zum Schluss gekommen, dass es sich dabei ganz klar um einen auch fetischistischen Aspekt handelt
Jamski says:
LOL
Micha says:
lol
Kody says:
I need to fix my configuration files
Micha says:
Who said that? A man?
Jamski says:
yes
Jamski says:
of course
Micha says:
well, could also be a girl getting hot when wearing a Dirndl
Jamski says:
not likely is it?
Jamski says:
well, perhaps
Micha says:
well... but would add even more flavour
Jamski says:
indeed it would
Micha says:
hey Jam, you have to tell me when the post arrives, ok?
Micha says:
immediately, I mean
Vev says:
what is the difference with Dirdl and dirndl?
Micha says:
hehe, read the second line ...
Micha says:
I simply missed the N
Micha says:

Jamski says:
bloody cat just knocked over a drum behind me
Jamski says:
nearly died of a heart attack
Micha says:
loooool
Micha says:
rofl
Jamski says:
.... BANG ...
Vev says:
so what is dirdl?
Micha says:
Good cat *touchy touchy*
Kody says:
WE GOT FOREST GROWTH!!!!
Micha says:
I just forgot the "N"... it must of course be "DIRNDL"
Micha says:
yes? How did you see that John?
Kody says:
one south of Kommuniza City
Vev says:
wheeeee they run like the wind?
Jamski says:
He compares
Kody says:
I've got all the forests memorised
Micha says:

Kody says:
but comparing works too
Jamski says:
dirndl heaven found
Micha says:
oh, you mean comparing with a screenshot
Micha says:
yay Jam!
Kody says:
yeah that works too
Jamski says:
Sorry, pic-links are all broken
Jamski says:

Micha says:
nooooooooooooo
Micha says:
then my life has turned senseles... *heads for the window*
Jamski says:
no micha!
Jamski says:
don't jump!
Micha says:
*...and closes it, because it´s getting damn cold...*
Micha says:
What?
Vev says:
how cold is it outside?
Micha says:
Why jump?
Jamski says:
lol
Micha says:
1.5 °C - 969.1 hPa
Jamski says:
eh?
Micha says:
this was one hour ago
Jamski says:
I have no idea
Micha says:
http://remus.prakinf.tu-ilmenau.de:8...er/seite1.html
Jamski says:
Mein Name ist Carolin und ich liebe es trachtig. Mein Kleid ist braun mit hellem Leinenrock, einer Bluse mit Spitze, sowie ein schöner Spitzenunterrock. Außerdem trage ich braune Schuhe.
Micha says:
humidity 99.3%
Micha says:
hehe, hello Carolin
Jamski says:
damm, I thought that was a Dirndl link Micha
Micha says:
lol, no it´s the ILMENAU WEATHER !!!
Jamski says:
Mein Name ist Jolanda und liebe die Tracht. Meine Rasta-Zöpfe sind vorne, hinten trage ich meine Haare ganz lang und offen. Mein Kleid ist mittelbrauner Leinen, das mit einer rosa Borte eingefaßt ist. Ich habe einen schönen Unterrock aus reiner Baumwolle mit viel Lochstickerei. Zu mir gehört auch noch ein kleines Körbchen mit Blüten.
Jamski says:
this is much better
Micha says:
hehe... but they wear too much to be "hot"
Vev says:
1.5 C and 99% humidity ?!?!!
Vev says:
damn i thought that link was a drindl site
Micha says:
yes
Micha says:
hehe
Micha says:
YOU wanted to know how cold it was...
Jamski says:
better to look at Dirndl dating sites
Micha says:
yay! go, Jamski, go! (And don´t tell Mrs. Jamski )
Kody says:
do you want to start the turnchat?
Micha says:
sure
Jamski says:
sure
Kody says:
can someone remind me to check the tech availability for the drones after we do this
Micha says:
ok
Jamski says:
no more Dirndl chat then
Kody says:
*shrug*
Kody says:
can I have the preturn
Micha says:
(10,18) colony pod - build city
(10,18) scout - hold
Vev says:
Jam are you going to post this whole thread
Jamski says:
um
Jamski says:
maybe
Kody says:
what's the city name again?
Vev says:
Mingoluco
Jamski says:
Utopia Base
Micha says:
(8,18) Former - move (10,18), rehome ,build forest (9,17)
(8,18) Former - move (10,18), rehome ,build forest (9,17)
(26,30) Former - build sensor
(26,30) Former - build sensor
(17,21) Former - build farm (15,21)
(18,16) Former - build sensor (18,20), cancel sensor, next turn move central planning, rehome, build farm (15,21)
Jamski says:
Utopia Dirndl Base
Vev says:
darn it
Jamski says:
what?
Vev says:
with your current temp at -10 what do you wear outdoors?
Kody says:
adjustment Voltariograd former doesn't rehome
Jamski says:
a COAT
Kody says:
this is because of the shift of the headquarters to Voltariograd meaning it will build one less former in the next 5 years
Jamski says:
we can live with ONE less John
Micha says:
no!
Kody says:
we get 1 more terraformer in HongHu
Jamski says:
I mean one less former, not one less John

[Vev]

Vev says:
yes: thick socks, coat, hat, gloves? and other things?
Kody says:
so it balances out in that way
Jamski says:
no worrys then mate
Micha says:
lol
Micha says:
got those formers, John?
Kody says:
nearly
Micha says:
post again?
Vev says:
Jam!
Kody says:
next
Micha says:
(20,16) Former (homed octavianburg) - move (HongHu KongHu), rehome, build road (17,15)
(20,16) Former - build forest (17,15)
(23,11) Former - build road (23,9)
(23,11) Former - build road (23,9)
(22,16) Former - build sensor
(25,15) Former - build sensor (22,16)

Vev says:
Jam!
Jamski says:
yes?
Vev says:
yes: thick socks, coat, hat, gloves? and other things?
Jamski says:
Vev!
Jamski says:
Yes
Jamski says:
most important a hat
Vev says:
scarf?
Kody says:
next
Micha says:
(29,19) Former - build road (30,22)
(29,23) Former - build road (30,22)
(26,26) Former - build road (25,29)
(18,24) Former - build sensor (18,26)
(18,26) Former - build road (18,28)
(22,20) Former - level rocky (23,21)

Jamski says:
scarf is good too
Micha says:
(22,26) Former - build sensor (23,23),cancel sensor,next turn level rocky (23,21)
Jamski says:
but you die without a hat
Jamski says:
your ears fall off
Vev says:
I heard about that
Vev says:
Brits die from not wearing hats
Micha says:
lol
Kody says:
cool
Vev says:
because the weather looks fine, and they are in a rush, they go out without a hat. Then while waiting for a train, they stand freezing on the station
Kody says:
the drones got a battle ogre
Jamski says:
lucky drones, poor tzrain passengers
Vev says:
and a blood clot starts to develop and when they get home the clot lodges in their heart or artery
Micha says:
cool, good thing to have them pacted
Kody says:
the drones have built a probe team
Kody says:
in Anil of man
Kody says:
*ponder*
Jamski says:
about time we did too then
Jamski says:
didn't we say we would match their probe rate
Kody says:
yeah
Vev says:
THEY WILL PROBE US!!! RUNN!!!!
Kody says:
we can build one in rokossovky next turn
Jamski says:
ok
Kody says:
anyway next bit
Micha says:
well, they mentioned that their foil was heading back to load a probe team
Vev says:
I know
Micha says:
(29,23) independant scout - hold
(29,23) scout - goto Kommuniza City, hold (DON'T REHOME YET)
(15,27) Rover - move (18,26)
(11,17) Rover - move (10,22)
(22,16) Scout - hold
(25,29) Scout - hold (DON'T REHOME YET)

Jamski says:
not a bad idea to start getting some though
Kody says:
if only their foil was homed somewhere
Micha says:
(25,15) Scout - hold (may have been already held)

Kody says:
then I could see which direction it is going
Vev says:
damn those dodgy unity foils
Vev says:
are they going to upgrade them when they have doc:flex
Kody says:
probably
Kody says:
it'll still be independant
Vev says:
does your ceramic boilers do anything?
Jamski says:
bloddy pop-up hell
Jamski says:
not yet
Jamski says:
I won't let Mrs J use them until tommorrow
Jamski says:
1st of October
Vev says:
is that an auspicious date?
Jamski says:
its my heating can be used date
Micha says:
the 3rd of October is
Kody says:
hrmm no mindworms
Kody says:
any other moves
Micha says:
Vevtopia - move worker from "river rolling rainy" to "rolling rainy"
Base1 - move worker from "rolling rainy" to "river rolling rainy"
Voltariograd - move worker from "forest" to "rocky nut"
Central Planning - move worker from "forest" to "river forest"

Micha says:
(no)
Kody says:
I think you skipped the base renames
Vev says:
has Vevotpoia being replanted yet?
Micha says:
yeah, coming later
Jamski says:
3rd is Germany Unity day
Micha says:
crawler moves
Kody says:
our research rate is 39 labs per turn
Vev says:
The day East Germany Annex the west?
Micha says:

Kody says:
go on
Micha says:
(28,24) crawler - move (27,23), minerals 4
(27,23) crawler - move (28,24), minerals 2
(17,19) crawler - move (14,18), rehome Vevtopia, move (16,18), minerals 2
(18,20) crawler - move (22,20), rehome Voltairograd, move (22,22), minerals 2
(22,22) crawler - move (18,20), minerals 7
(23,15) crawler - move (23,19), minerals 2

Micha says:
(24,20) crawler - move (23,15), minerals 2
(26,20) crawler - move (24,20), minerals 2
(29,21) crawler - move (29,19), rehome The Hive, move (26,20), minerals 2

Vev says:
are we using new moscow or Novaya Moskva?
Micha says:
* Name change Jamski Peninsula
* next base "Utopia base"
* label base site "Michanapolis"
* label base site "New Moscow"

Vev says:
anyone?
Micha says:
I thought I replied to you, Vev
Jamski says:
Novay whatever is too hard to type
Vev says:
nonsense I had been using Novaya Zemlya as a password once (and I won't use it again)
Micha says:
hehe... you should try the original Cyryllic version
Vev says:
not sure the program accepts cyrilic texts
Jamski says:
New Moscow is nice for me
Kody says:
next
Micha says:
Base1 - build former, stockpile, rush 8 ECs
Kommuniza - build colony pod, stockpile
Googliegrad - build former, stockpile
Rokossovky - build recycling tanks, stockpile, rush 34 ECs
Central Planning - build recycling tanks, stockpile
Vevtopia - rush 20 ECs

Kody says:
Hrmm we've got the option to trade 1 food for 1 extra mineral
Vev says:
starve the suckers!
Jamski says:
take the min
Micha says:
lol
Vev says:
unless we want to grow soon
Micha says:
we´re not an argrar state
Vev says:
agrarian state?
Micha says:
same
Kody says:
nope
Kody says:
can shouldn't take the mineral
Jamski says:
we want WORK not bread
Kody says:
I should simulator test that
Micha says:
cannons instead of butter
Kody says:
keep going
Kody says:
we'll leave this for a bit later
Micha says:
HongHu-KongHu - build former, stockpile
Voltariograd - Build Command Nexus, next turn build former, stockpile
Octavianburg - rush 22 ECs
The Hive - build crawler, stockpile rush 16 ECs
Jamski Clove - build colony pod, stockpile

Kody says:
I'll check in the simulator after we finish the rest
Micha says:
there´s only rehome / support allocation notes left

Jamski has left the conversation.

Kody says:
is that it?
Kody says:
okay
Micha says:
Rehome Notes
Former - Octavianburg -> HongHu KongHu
Former - Voltariograd -> Base1
Former - Central Planning -> Base1
Former(next turn)- HongHu KongHu -> Central Planning
Former(next turn)- HongHu KongHu -> Base2
Former(next turn)- Voltariograd -> Base2

Micha says:
Support reallocation notes
* Can shift 1 scout Kommuniza -> Googliegrad
* Can shift 1 scout Rokosskvygrad -> Kommuniza

Kody says:
okay I'm going to save this and double check the food allocation
Micha says:
okay
Kody says:
the main problem is I've forgotten if recycling tanks add food the turn they're built
Micha says:
"can someone remind me to check the tech availability for the drones after we do this"
Micha says:
(don´t know exactly about those rec tanks)
Kody says:
that's why I'm going to do simulator
Kody says:
do you have the simualtor file I gave you?
Kody says:
last night?
Kody says:
can you send that to me?
Kody says:
I've only got the late late game planning simulator files on this computer
Micha says:
sure
Kody says:
thanks
Kody says:
that is going to be a big help since I've only got 2137 simualtor turn and would have to replay 2138 and 2139
Kody says:
I wonder why Buster put those hashes in the diplomacy window
Micha says:
what did he put in?
Kody says:
#
Kody says:
#
Kody says:
#
Kody says:
that
Micha says:
to us?
Kody says:
yeah
Micha says:
didn´t see that when I opened the turn
Kody says:
oh he did it ages ago
Micha says:
oooh
Micha says:
perhaps a sign of "offer something, and express your demands" among PBEMers
[COLOR=limegreen]Kody says:
oh

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[Micha]

TURN CHAT 2140

Kody says:
we're ready to go
Micha says:
hey john
Voltaire has been added.
[/color] Kody says:
hi there
Kody says:
peace are in favour of both deals
Micha says:
what other deal?
Kody says:
pact and gene splicing for flex trade
Kody says:
check polls now
Micha says:
oh, you consider pacting a deal
Micha says:
have just finished voting
Kody says:
in this case it is
Kody says:
it's just a deal, not a full on commitment
Micha says:
i don´t like that idea
Kody says:
we've got a tie
Kody says:
where's voltaire
Micha says:
dunno
Kody says:
oh yeah anothing thing
Micha says:
well, I voted abstain, because I´m not fully informed and didn´t want to ruin that poll
Kody says:
if we're pacted with the pirates
Kody says:
we're much more likely to get planetary governership
Micha says:
ok. but i really doubt they´ll pact with us
Kody says:
they've already said yes
Micha says:
also, we are the axis of that game. Pirates serve as UK, whilst the others are the silent supporters in the background. I really doubt we will change that situation. Let´s prepare for a great war instead
Micha says:
huh? a permapact?
Micha says:
they have said YES?
Kody says:
nope
Kody says:
I offered a research and non-aggression pact
Kody says:
chairman?
Kody says:
gah my hands are tied yet again on this matter
Micha says:
hm
Micha says:
Still, I don´t trust the Pirates.
Kody says:
I'll see if I can talk to them about it
Micha says:
ok
Kody says:
nup they're not around
Kody says:
I guess I shouldn't have bundled this up like I did
Voltaire says:
Sorry just got back
Kody says:
just time restrictions
Kody says:
chairman about the pirate pact situation
Kody says:
also Michawhat is your suggestion
Voltaire says:
Yes, I've heard, they've accepted
Kody says:
they've agreed to pact and trade
Kody says:
however we don't have majority from the hive
Kody says:
should I
Kody says:
1. tell the pirates that we still don't have majority vote, and hope they still do the trade
Voltaire says:
We do now
Kody says:
2. not sure .. what do
Micha says:
can´t we make it informal? Without giving them infiltration? Just on the paper with the promise to honor it?
Kody says:
that sounds kindof dodgy
Kody says:
also we're trying to make it seem we're not on strong terms with the drones
Kody says:
they'll wonder, why did we pact with drones but not them
Kody says:
any more options?
Micha says:
hm..
Voltaire says:
We must take into account the possible ramifications this could have on our relations with the Uni and CyCon
Voltaire says:
Particualrly the CyCon
Kody says:
didn't buster say we might be interested in pacting to gather information
Kody says:
I can say not all the important people have voted
Kody says:
and put the pact in
Kody says:
and at a later date we can say that the vote finalised and it was against?
Voltaire says:
Why not do something like we initialy did with the Drones, a time constrained pact?
Voltaire says:
after a given number of years both parties can break it
Voltaire says:
or renew it
Kody says:
okay
Micha says:
sound agreeable
Kody says:
how long?
Voltaire says:
Hmm
Voltaire says:
50 years?
Kody says:
that's a long time
Kody says:
it's only been 40 years so far
Kody says:
but 50 years would be commitment
Voltaire says:
true
Micha says:
30?
Voltaire says:
25
Voltaire says:
or 20 even
Kody says:
20 seems too whore like
Kody says:
35 seems about right?
Kody says:
what do you think?
Voltaire says:
35 sounds fine
Kody says:
okay we set a time limit on the pact for 35 years
Voltaire says:
brb
Micha says:
I second that 35 years time limit
Kody says:
okay then
Kody says:
I'll prep the turn
Kody says:
hrmm
Kody says:
we should ask the pirates first
Micha says:
what?
Micha says:
ok. PM or e-Mail?
Kody says:
it would cause problems if that 35 year clause made the pirates change their mind
Kody says:
you see if we put the pact into our diplomancy window
Kody says:
then it has to be accepted
Voltaire says:
hmm
Voltaire says:
well
Kody says:
or we could ask them to end pact if they decline
Voltaire says:
the quickest way to get a response would be to PM them, particularly if someone is online (Herculese primarely)
Voltaire says:
Or indeed
Voltaire says:
that too would work
Voltaire says:
tell them in game that the pact is set in stone for 35 years, and after then it will be brought up for renewal
Voltaire says:
if they do not agree they can decline
Kody says:
okay then
Kody says:
right I'll get this together

[Micha]

2140 - PART TWO

Kody says:
they'll get infiltration of us for 1 turn
Micha says:
and it won´t last?
Kody says:
yep
Kody says:
it wouldn't last
Micha says:
hm... That´ll change much
Micha says:
So they know what we´re currently building and researching, but next turn all is secret again?
Kody says:
yep
Kody says:
that's only if they decide to reject the 35 year proposal
Micha says:
hm
Micha says:
so if they reject, we gain nothing, our relations drop, and they´ll know some more about us...
Micha says:
I´d say we contact them before and let them run a poll
Kody says:
well that's the cost of trying to insert the 35 year clause
Kody says:
but they still can gain infiltration before canceling
Kody says:
and we're completely out of time
Micha says:
darn
Kody says:
hrmm the chairman is gone again
Voltaire says:
No no
Voltaire says:
The Chairman is always here
Voltaire says:
watching
Voltaire says:
waiting
Micha says:
can´t we simply apologize with "too less voters, will continue next year" ?
Voltaire says:
but
Voltaire says:
we'll still want the time limit on the pact
Voltaire says:
it will come up eventualy
Voltaire says:
we might as well bring it up now
Kody says:
ack
Micha says:
but I´m pretty sure they´ll reject it, then we lose too much
Kody says:
I've already done the end turn, and it will cause a reload
Kody says:
chairman do you want to handle the diplomancy
Micha says:
I think the gains don´t justify the enormous risk
Voltaire says:
certanly
Kody says:
two main points
Kody says:
* they need to set flexibility to accept for this to work
Kody says:
* bring up the 35 year clause in such a way they won't be inclined to reject it
Micha says:
ok, that is a good point
Kody says:
* say when the council does convene we're interested in buying votes
Voltaire says:
alright i'll compose it after i get back, right now i need to go wash the car for some reason
Kody says:
most importantly say they need to set flexibility to accept if we're to get gene splicing next turn.
Kody says:
we'll send the gene splicing back their way
Voltaire says:
alright i've noted all that
Voltaire says:
i will have it composed posted and sent in under half an hour
Kody says:
Michacan you post this turnchat
Kody says:
that way chairman can reference it when he's available
Kody says:
oh and say the pact has been set to accept
Kody says:
blah blah blah we trust you etc
Voltaire says:
indeed, i've already copied the important parts you said to include in the communique
Voltaire says:
LOL
Voltaire says:
alright
Kody says:
*nod*
Micha says:
Shall I still post it?
Voltaire says:
please do
Kody says:
well I would trust them as far as the next 20 years anyway
Kody says:
yep
Micha says:
And what "turn chat" ?
Kody says:
this is the turnchat
Voltaire says:
gtg

Voltaire hat die Unterhaltung verlassen.

Kody says:
I was fiddling with the turn while we were talking
Kody says:
since I've got to get going myself really soon
Micha says:
oh... so nothing of importance happened besides the diplomacy?
Micha says:
What´s with the worms?
Kody says:
well mindworms
Kody says:
I sent a rover over
Micha says:
did it already fight?
Kody says:
and we're being invaded by miriman!
Kody says:
nope
Kody says:
just moving into position
Kody says:
did you know you can golden age one turn and pop boom the next?
Micha says:
how?
Micha says:
And what is it with Miriam????
Kody says:
well because the golden age ends after the pop boom stage
Kody says:
you can't start a golden age and pop boom though
Kody says:
one technique I'm hoping to do is golden age when rokossovky is size four from a pod
Kody says:
then pop boom it up to size 5
Kody says:
then when we get more food it will grow to size 6
Kody says:
since none of those things uses food
Micha says:
Huh? so you mean popboom with the help of PTSß
Micha says:
?
Kody says:
none
Kody says:
pop boom with golden age
Kody says:
I still need to run the tests to see if we have enough energy to do that
Micha says:
"you can't start a golden age and pop boom though"
Micha says:
"pop boom with golden age"
Kody says:
yeap
Kody says:
you can't start a golden age and pop boom the same turn
Micha says:
ooooooh, I see
Micha says:
(what parts shall I post? This all?
Micha says:
)
Kody says:
all I
John transfers data:
Kody says:
updated hive simulator
Micha says:
thanks John!
Kody says:
hrmm
Kody says:
I really shouldn't embrass the chairman by saying he's been losing the diplomatic messages
Kody says:
the problem is that's exactly what has been happening I suspect
Micha says:
ah, he´s not that easy to embarass I think
Kody says:
he might just hide it better

[Kody]

Turn chat in roughly 10 hours from now.

[Kody]

Vev has been added to the conversation.

Kody says:
only you two for the turn chat it looks
Kody says:
you there

Vev has left the conversation.

Voltaire says:
Hello
Voltaire says:
Sorry I was AFK
Kody says:
hi
Kody says:
hrmm I think vev doesn't care about the in game anymore
Voltaire says:
How so?

Vev has been added to the conversation.

Rokossovky has been added to the conversation.

Kody says:
vev
Kody says:
turn chat?
Rokossovky says:
I am the josh
Vev says:
I am not sure if I would be much of a help
Rokossovky says:
John, let me download the turn and I will tell you where to move the units in a sec
Kody says:
heh
Kody says:
I'm still changing our base names and everything back
Rokossovky says:
lol
Kody says:
just a question
Kody says:
is everytone watching?
Voltaire says:
Watching?
Kody says:
Basically how about if we don't pact with the cycon
Voltaire says:
Why the sudden change of mind?
Kody says:
because I don't feel like betraying them
Kody says:
we let them think we're going to pact
Kody says:
after they've put up their defences
Kody says:
then when they finally ask
Kody says:
we decline
Rokossovky says:
no, we can still pact with them for like 30 years
Voltaire says:
We want to pact
Kody says:
so give a time limited pact?
Voltaire says:
We're not going to outright betray the CyCon
Rokossovky says:
yea
Kody says:
oh
Voltaire says:
we simply do not want a permipact
Rokossovky says:
right now
Rokossovky says:
who knows
Kody says:
do you think they'll go for that?
Voltaire says:
we're stalling on that issue
Rokossovky says:
if we decide we want a perma pact with them and not the drones
Rokossovky says:
we could do that
Rokossovky says:
i dunno
Rokossovky says:
oh
Rokossovky says:
what do I do with this treaty offer
Rokossovky says:
?
Kody says:
yeah lets betray the drones now
Rokossovky says:
no
Voltaire says:
We will pact with the CyCon
Rokossovky says:
we would find a way of honourably extracting ourselves
Kody says:
who cares I'm playing the turn aren't I?
Rokossovky says:
just for records sake on my comp
Voltaire says:
We will tell them we're still deliberating the joint-victory proposal.
Voltaire says:
Which we are.
Rokossovky says:
yes
Kody says:
do we have to mislead them so
Kody says:
we really are misleading them
Voltaire says:
Yes, we are.
Kody says:
even if we're telling the truth it's only partial truth
Voltaire says:
And I don't think we have many other options.
Kody says:
which can be just as bad
Kody says:
well actually I think we could probably smash a university cycon alliance
Voltaire says:
Maybe
Voltaire says:
But I'd rather not have to smash a Uni-CyCon alliance.
Kody says:
seriously we've got that much turn advantage
Kody says:
well that's why we don't go aggressive
Rokossovky says:
oh, john, game note, move rover to 10,26
Kody says:
we just decline
Rokossovky says:
and move the probe to wherever you want it
Kody says:
umm can you do this when we're playing the game
Rokossovky says:
new moscow i think
Kody says:
which rover too?
Voltaire says:
Marshal
Voltaire says:
you could do the movements
Voltaire says:
save the game
Voltaire says:
and send it to john
Kody says:
NOOOOO
Voltaire says:
that would make things easier
Voltaire says:
?
Kody says:
don't make me rename all the bases again!
Rokossovky says:
LOL
Rokossovky says:
no no
Voltaire says:
alright
Rokossovky says:
I just need that one moves
Voltaire says:
John save the game
Rokossovky says:
*moved
Voltaire says:
send it to the marshal
Voltaire says:
and then he can do the movements
Kody says:
which rover?
Kody says:
10,26
Rokossovky says:
the one by the scout
Rokossovky says:
it is just one square away
Rokossovky says:
moving it beside the scout again to ensure it is doing what they say it is doing
Kody says:
can't we go for the fungus?
Rokossovky says:
why not for just on the rock beside the scout
Rokossovky says:
?
Kody says:
what rock?
Rokossovky says:
lol
Rokossovky says:
10,16
Rokossovky says:
*26
Kody says:
that's rolling
Rokossovky says:
?
Kody says:
I know because that's a future base site
Rokossovky says:
let me check to make sure I didn't get the wrong tile
Kody says:
and I had to know that because all the rocky squares need to be leveled
Kody says:
we're not supposed to explore you know
Vev says:
*all*?
Kody says:
then make the real move
Kody says:
although I was going to work on the assumption they had moved according to plan
Kody says:
because they wouldn't lie to us when it's so easy to check up what they're doing
Rokossovky says:
I wasn't exploring
Rokossovky says:
that was where I wanted to move it
Kody says:
okay
Rokossovky says:
but
Rokossovky says:
I thought it was rocky
Rokossovky says:
(looked awfully rocky)
Kody says:
well since you've moved there I'll move there too
Rokossovky says:
it's not
Kody says:
originally I was thinking of jumping onto the fugus
Rokossovky says:
that will take 3 turns
Rokossovky says:
sorry
Rokossovky says:
2
Rokossovky says:
4 moves
Kody says:
nope 1 turn
Rokossovky says:
really?
Kody says:
yeah
Rokossovky says:
oh
Rokossovky says:
well then go for that
Rokossovky says:
wait
Rokossovky says:
ZOC
Kody says:
but we've already moved
Rokossovky says:
lol
Rokossovky says:
ok
Kody says:
well you've already moved
Rokossovky says:
nvm the ZOC thing, we can just ago around
Kody says:
would it be legal one person trying something then another person doing something else
Rokossovky says:
nope
Kody says:
so we have to do what you originally planned
Kody says:
ZOC isn't a problem
Rokossovky says:
no it isn't
Kody says:
9,25
Kody says:
then
Kody says:
9,27
Rokossovky says:
can we do that?
Kody says:
now we attack the scout
Rokossovky says:
in this turn?
Kody says:
the rover has one more move left
Voltaire says:
attack the scout?
Voltaire says:
did i miss something?
Rokossovky says:
we are not attacking the scout
Kody says:
darn
Vev says:
Fight!
Voltaire says:
ok good
Kody says:
I want more than mindworm action
Kody says:
*snicker*
Kody says:
oh that reminds me
Vev says:
mindworm on mindworm action
Kody says:
need to kill that mindworm
Rokossovky says:
john, where did that rover end up?
Kody says:
which rover?
Kody says:
where you put it originally
Rokossovky says:
shrine googlie rover
Kody says:
because of that exploring rule
Rokossovky says:
ok
Rokossovky says:
kewl
Rokossovky says:
but back to the cycon thing
Kody says:
do people remember what our faction stuff used to be?
Rokossovky says:
we can sign a 30 year pact
Rokossovky says:
without being dishonourable
Rokossovky says:
and tell them we are considering finding a way out of drone pact
Kody says:
Then say at that time we'll decide for certain what we'll do
Rokossovky says:
exactly
Kody says:
okay then
Kody says:
ask chairman what he thinks
Kody says:
then ask honghu
Rokossovky says:
chairman? does that have your approval?
Voltaire says:
I've said before we'll be entering into a pact with the CyCon, as for its duration I am uncertain
Voltaire says:
I approve of this
Kody says:
I suggest that honghu broach the issue
Rokossovky says:
yup
Voltaire says:
but know that we may end up lying to them
Kody says:
hopefully not
Rokossovky says:
I would rather avoid that
Rokossovky says:
but
Rokossovky says:
I've gtg
Rokossovky says:
be back in a bit
Rokossovky says:
I will pm honghu with this decision
Rokossovky says:
thank you chairman

Rokossovky has left the conversation.

Kody says:
the only lie I think we should consider making is if they directly ask us about how deep our pact with the drones is
Voltaire says:
we will need to figure out a course of action eventualy
Voltaire says:
we cannot just keep delaying the decision
Kody says:
well I figure at 30 years we'll drop the pact?
Kody says:
and give a 15 year cool off period
Voltaire says:
I'd like to keep the pact
Voltaire says:
but if nothing else
Kody says:
it won't happen
Voltaire says:
make it clear that it's not a joint-victory one
Kody says:
googlie doesn't even support it
Kody says:
well for now we decide to drop the pact
Kody says:
however if there appears to be another way
Kody says:
we'll keep it?
Kody says:
how does that sound?
Voltaire says:
i'm not going to comment on an issue like that this early
Voltaire says:
i'd rather make up our minds closer to the date
Voltaire says:
but for now
Voltaire says:
we make it 30 years
Voltaire says:
officialy anyway
Kody says:
you're the one complaining about how we're just delaying it
Voltaire says:
essentialy the same agreement we had with the drones
Voltaire says:
and pirates
Kody says:
pirates got 35 years
Kody says:
before I knew buster would be ready in 20 years
Voltaire says:
i'm reffering to the document itself
Voltaire says:
the clause
Voltaire says:
that the pact is 30 years
Kody says:
vev
Voltaire says:
and that it is up for renewal after that
Kody says:
can you post all of this in the hive and drone forum
Kody says:
please
Vev says:
I would go insane
Kody says:
just change voltaire's name
Vev says:
not if I want to read it
Kody says:
fine I'll do it after I've finished the turn
Kody says:
Looks like another 5 hour session of playing the turn and doing all the post turn
Vev says:
meeting at 10
Vev says:
plus tute at 12
Kody says:
oh
Voltaire says:
I'll post it all once the turnchat's done
Kody says:
hrmm okay
Kody says:
the rest of the turnchat will be a bit boring
Kody says:
but the first part concerns the drones
Vev says:
I like cutting my time fine
Kody says:
vev: okay I understand that
Kody says:
chairman
Kody says:
should we give the cycon the university's comm link
Kody says:
and ask them to not use it until we close the deal?
Voltaire says:
Hmm
Voltaire says:
Can we trust them not ot?
Voltaire says:
*to
Vev says:
oh yeah, I did some empirical study on combat results, so far I haven't found a pattern but I do have a bunch of stats
Kody says:
well in the long run
Kody says:
I think it's better to give them the comm link now
Kody says:
I don't except them to keep out of contact that much longer
Voltaire says:
Well the Drones will not give it to them, and neither will PEACE
Voltaire says:
we can effectivly keep it from them
Voltaire says:
but
Kody says:
how do we know that
Voltaire says:
unless the AI factions have it
Kody says:
also the AI will be willing to give them
Voltaire says:
i'm all up for giving the cycon the uni commlink
Voltaire says:
what do we get in return?
Voltaire says:
that's the question

dacole has been added to the conversation.

Kody says:
their goodwill
Kody says:
that's what we would get in return
dacole says:
ok so catch me up here
Kody says:
it'll be like good cop and bad cop
Kody says:
the pirates held on to the university's comm frequency
Kody says:
whereas we give it to them
Kody says:
it'll be a striking difference in relations
dacole says:
um ok who are we giveing it to the cyons or the peacekeepers?
Vev says:
more playthings!
Vev says:
hi dacole
Kody says:
the cycon
dacole says:
greetings vev
Kody says:
chairman?
Voltaire says:
hmm
Voltaire says:
i'm thinking
Kody says:
okay then
Kody says:
I'll rename a few more things
dacole says:
I don't see a problem with this, greetings chairman
Voltaire says:
will it give the other factions the possibility of calling a planitary council before we're ready?
Voltaire says:
hello comrade dacole
Kody says:
but they secretly hope that they can out grow us
Kody says:
so will delay the council
Voltaire says:
fine
dacole says:
hmm not sure do we know what comm signals they have?
Voltaire says:
i have reservations
Voltaire says:
but i can see where you're coming from
Voltaire says:
give it to them as a gift
Voltaire says:
but wait
dacole says:
would be good form them to like us, might get some tech out of them perhaps?
Voltaire says:
will not the university be able to contact them?
Voltaire says:
we can get the cycon not to talk to the uni
Voltaire says:
but can we get the uni not to talk to the cycon?
Voltaire says:
that's the question
Kody says:
yeah but as long as they don't coordinate too closely
Voltaire says:
alright
Voltaire says:
i gtg eat at the moment
Voltaire says:
i will be back in 15 min
Voltaire says:
quick poll on the issue
Voltaire says:
0=don't give them the uni commlink
Voltaire says:
1=give it to them
Voltaire says:
please vote
dacole says:
1
Kody says:
1
Voltaire says:
that's a majority
Kody says:
vev is away
Kody says:
you didn't vote
Voltaire says:
i know
dacole says:
yes does the chairman not get a veto?
Voltaire says:
i abstain
Voltaire says:
i always do
Kody says:
bah
Kody says:
you should be more decisive
Voltaire says:
therefore the motion is carried
Voltaire says:
lol
Voltaire says:
i would
Voltaire says:
but you wouldn't like it
Kody says:
you see when people see that the chairman votes, and doesn't get his own way all the time
Kody says:
it makes it seem more democratic
Voltaire says:
exactly, and we don't want to give the people an impression of democracy do we?
dacole says:
a democratic hive wait I think my heads going to explode..
Kody says:
heh
Kody says:
sorry to burst your bubble
Kody says:
apparently tassadar reckons we're the most democratic of all the factions he's seen
Voltaire says:
i know we are
Voltaire says:
alright
Voltaire says:
we'll address this issue more when i get back

Rokossovky has been added to the conversation.

Kody says:
another issue
Rokossovky says:
k
Kody says:
we need to decide if we want to accept the AI comm frequencies
Kody says:
we'll get some extra infiltration data on the AI
Kody says:
but the cycon will see our cooperation with the drones
dacole says:
explain how would this happen?
Kody says:
the cycon already have the AI comm frequencies
Rokossovky says:
why don't we get the comms from the cycon instead?
dacole says:
right they give them to us, ok how does that allow them to see we are pacted with the drones?
Rokossovky says:
buster won't mind
Kody says:
they already know
dacole says:
so then its a non issue if they know already right?
Rokossovky says:
dacole is a point
Rokossovky says:
*has
Kody says:
hrmm but trading comm links
Rokossovky says:
will it actually matter
Rokossovky says:
?
Rokossovky says:
they know we are pacted
Rokossovky says:
so
Kody says:
the pirates didn't trade comm links
Rokossovky says:
we are just being pact mate
Kody says:
and they were pacted
Rokossovky says:
that is because they are "butts"
Rokossovky says:

Rokossovky says:
:P
Kody says:
okay understood
Kody says:
I'll accept the trade
Rokossovky says:
kewl
Rokossovky says:
I post our agreement in the forum
Rokossovky says:
asked for opinion
Rokossovky says:
but right now I've gtg
Rokossovky says:
ttyl
dacole says:
later

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Kody says:
drones have pushed tech rate up to 30% 70%
Kody says:
Believers have 30 votes
Kody says:
Data angels have 35 votes
dacole says:
how many do we have?
Kody says:
44 I think
Kody says:
let me check
Kody says:
35
Kody says:
45
Kody says:
rather
Kody says:
we have 45 votes
dacole says:
nice! Drones have how many?
Kody says:
19
Kody says:
17
Kody says:
they have 17
dacole says:
hmm we could almost get one of us elected to be planatary govenor with just those two unless the others teamed up on someone
Kody says:
do you want to do a vote count?
Kody says:
open up the turn and make a thread on our chances and say who's votes we would need
dacole says:
would love to but I don't have smacx yet heh only smac yes I know I'm a weenie
Voltaire says:
you can download SMAX from here: http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=4135
Voltaire says:
I must depart at this moment

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Kody says:
*sigh*
Kody says:
and people wonder why I think turn chats are a waste of time
Kody says:
so ends the 2143 turn chat before I had even gotten to unit and base productions.