June 18, 2003, 19:52
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I bought a mere $30 of booze today and was not IDed.
So this means one of two things:
I look like I'm without a doubt over 18
The cashier thought I'd be impressed with her for not IDing me to the point of asking her out or something
Seeing as I'm not totally vain (yet), it couldn't be the second one. And I wasn't aware I looked without-a-doubt over 18.
So the problem is likely she's a lazyass who doesn't care.
So, who gets in trouble if the cops knew?
Would the cashier? The store's manager?
What would the punishments be?
Just an intrigue thread. 
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June 18, 2003, 21:03
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around here, usually the only punishment is a warning to the store's owners
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June 18, 2003, 21:25
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The clerk will usually get a fine and fired.
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June 18, 2003, 22:13
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Originally posted by Asher
So the problem is likely she's a lazyass who doesn't care.
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..gets my vote..would you care if you had that type of job? 
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June 18, 2003, 22:18
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I would, because I like to do my job right. 
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June 18, 2003, 23:20
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In Aus, the cashier gets a fine, the person who owns the liquor license for the store also gets a fine. They can also revoke the license, meaning the store is shut down.
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June 18, 2003, 23:24
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same here SB.
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June 18, 2003, 23:29
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Bastard. I got IDed when I went to see The Two Towers.
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June 18, 2003, 23:31
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June 19, 2003, 00:41
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here, if it's a sting operation, the store will get slapped with a fine around $500 to $1000 depending on the record of the store. I've seen some news reports where the owner of the store gets arrested for repeat offenders.
Crazy.
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June 19, 2003, 01:25
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Lax IDing can lead to greater sales.
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June 19, 2003, 01:28
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Asher's just mad someone thought he looked old.
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June 19, 2003, 01:41
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You report them to ALCB. You tell ALCB that there is no way any reasonable person could assume you are 18, and you were not ID'd.
If they see you, they will send real 16 year olds (who look old) into the store to purchase spirits. If the kids can walk out of the store with the beer, the owners are in for serious hurt. Fines and or shut down depending on history.
Christ, bylaw officers are doing that to stores with cigarettes (different agencies though). I doubt the ALCB will tolerate alcohol to minors. Assuming of course that they have the staff to be able to afford to care.
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June 19, 2003, 03:44
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Originally posted by Asher
I bought a mere $30 of booze today and was not IDed.
So this means one of two things:
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The cashier thought I'd be impressed with her for not IDing me to the point of asking her out or something
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Well, I honestly bet THAT was the case!
Younger cashiers generally don't ID if you're alone, not nervous, look like a geek, and not bringing a park party themed purchase to the counter (single crappy 8 oz hard alcohol + case of Canadian/Kokanee, and/or 5 4-packs of peach coolers, and/or ANYTHING to do with 40oz malt liquor)
Fine for the liquor stores can hit the $5000 mark, and repeated offences can result in loss of license
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June 19, 2003, 04:47
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I would, because I like to do my job right.
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I call BS.
I've read your livejournal dude .... playing Solitaire and 3D Pinball all day?
BUSTED!!! 
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June 19, 2003, 05:53
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Asher, you're not honestly upset - or considering reporting this?
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June 19, 2003, 07:23
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"Sting" operations are pure victimisation; more often than not they'll pick 17-year-olds who don't look a day under 21.
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June 19, 2003, 07:24
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Incidentally, Asher, what crime did the cashier commit? None!
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June 19, 2003, 08:20
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can she be fined for not IDing someone who is over 18 because they look younger?
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June 19, 2003, 08:56
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Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
I call BS.
I've read your livejournal dude .... playing Solitaire and 3D Pinball all day?
BUSTED!!!
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Well....
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Asher, you're not honestly upset - or considering reporting this?
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No, just offended.
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June 19, 2003, 09:10
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can she be fined for not IDing someone who is over 18 because they look younger?
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I don't see how you can fine someone for serving a person that is legally entitled to buy...
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June 19, 2003, 09:37
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When I was underage the guy at our local off-license once told us he couldn't serve us because he'd just got a police warning so we went next door. Was Ok again a couple of weeks later though.
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June 19, 2003, 09:42
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When I was underage the guy at our local off-license once told us he couldn't serve us because he'd just got a police warning so we went next door. Was Ok again a couple of weeks later though.
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June 19, 2003, 09:50
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When you were underage did you also double post?
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June 19, 2003, 09:54
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It just kept coming back with "cannot connect to server"
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June 19, 2003, 10:00
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Funny, most people get pissed off when they are IDed, not when they aren't.
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June 19, 2003, 10:02
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I've actually never been IDed.
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June 19, 2003, 10:04
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This thread reminds me of Rich at the After Dark... 
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June 19, 2003, 10:27
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I'm always being ID'ed.
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June 19, 2003, 10:33
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