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The police should never have high speed chases
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June 19, 2003, 03:26
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Riots in America!
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/0...est/index.html
I think maybe it's time to fix the system. Maybe the police should stop pulling over black motorists  . That would solve the rioting problem.
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June 19, 2003, 03:28
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Re: Riots in America!
What that Civgroup you have there with the 1010010101010?
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June 19, 2003, 03:32
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Ahh that is the Mohammed al-Sahaf team on the PTW demo game II. The actual civ is the aztecs.
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June 19, 2003, 03:43
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June 19, 2003, 04:16
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No wonder I haven't been hearing about it....the riots are in Michigan.
But to be serious.....two words: Messed Up.
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June 19, 2003, 08:57
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Bah, where would Grand Theft Auto be without high speed police chases.
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June 19, 2003, 10:03
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High speed chases are ill-advised at any time.
Rioting in your neighborhood, is stupid.
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June 20, 2003, 01:48
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they really should stop pulling over black people
they are going to start a race war
people can only take so much oppression
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June 20, 2003, 02:57
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they
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June 20, 2003, 03:18
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It seems to be a bunch of crap.
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June 20, 2003, 03:40
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What Jesse Jackson said really bothers me
I don't think he's a racists, but I do believe the things he says are for political/personal gain and do not help race relations at all.
Just take a look at what he said recently. It seems to me he expects white cops not to pull over black motorists.
There may or may not be oppression, but it doesn't matter. If the people think they are oppressed, there may be a race war. It's times like these, I hate being white, and am actually afraid of being white. Yes I suppose it is racist to be afraid. But sometimes I don't think the U.S. is going to make it. I feel like the fabric of society is going to break down.
Yes I know black people are afraid of cops. So it serves me right. I do think the cops are too heavy handed with regards to black people. But should I be to blame for what the cops do?
I am guilty of being white.
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June 20, 2003, 04:00
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Most of the cops in that town are black. most of the people in that town are black. I don't think he'd be living in that town if he was a racist.
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June 20, 2003, 04:01
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Guilty by association, my friend. They see the "white man" as the oppressor and are fighting against him. But from what I hear this incident was the spark that set the powder keg off. If it wasn't this, it would have been something else.
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June 20, 2003, 04:08
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There will be another civil war, some day. I'm gonna start taking bets on how the sides line up.
I'd put my money on Anglo-Saxon Whites / Hispanics / Jews / American Indians & other native tribes against everyone else.
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June 20, 2003, 04:12
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Everyone else is in big trouble.
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June 21, 2003, 01:46
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i think the asian community will be in such an occurance, split as it always is.
the "assimilated" folk with the whites, the rest with the minorities.
i think i'll move in such an event, back to asia, because even though i'm assimilated/americanized, i have no interest in a racewar.
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June 21, 2003, 07:40
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I also think this death was merely the spark that set the powder keg off. It's a stupid spark, I agree on that, but I wonder what the real reasons of the riots are. The death of a fleeing motorist definitely is not the "real reason"
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June 21, 2003, 10:08
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perhaps the police should just shoot first
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June 21, 2003, 10:30
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I also think this death was merely the spark that set the powder keg off. It's a stupid spark, I agree on that, but I wonder what the real reasons of the riots are. The death of a fleeing motorist definitely is not the "real reason"
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Apparently, there was some longstanding tension between some black motorcycle gangs and the cops.
The place is a bit of a hellhole- like Detroit but without the glitz. But rioting makes a bad situation much worse. You can drive through some neighborhoods in Detroit from the 67 riots that still haven't been rebuilt.
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Not afraid, but very distrustful. And who can blame them? In both Detroit and Benton Harbor, there is literally a physical street or border that separates affluent white neighborhoods from black ones - You can walk across a street and go from a DMZ to Bel Air.
Trust me, this isn't accidental, and police tactics play into keeping it that way to this day.
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June 21, 2003, 11:09
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If there is a race war it will be between Blacks and Hispanics to see who gets to be the favored minority. Hispanics just passed Blacks as the most numerous minority.
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June 21, 2003, 11:31
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I also think this death was merely the spark that set the powder keg off. It's a stupid spark, I agree on that, but I wonder what the real reasons of the riots are. The death of a fleeing motorist definitely is not the "real reason"
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I have to agree that the information is incomplete in this case and the riot was not possibly generated from one felony pursuit. "Many of the city's residents believe they are unfairly targeted by police from the more prosperous white communities that surround them, said Charlie Ammeson, a local attorney" We open up the can of worms that contain racial profiling practices employed in a ghetto enviroment and go fishing for trouble eh,  other examples of this existed in the Five Points region of New York during the early 20th through WW2 with the Irish,Italian ,Jewish and Chinese peoples.people typically unassimilated. It is a symptom of human territorial rights in a restrictive state.
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June 21, 2003, 11:33
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Apparently, there was some longstanding tension between some black motorcycle gangs and the cops.
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Who were also black.
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June 21, 2003, 12:06
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Originally posted by Azazel
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Apparently, there was some longstanding tension between some black motorcycle gangs and the cops.
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Not in this particular instance.
http://www.detnews.com/2003/metro/03...tro-198301.htm
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The motorcyclist who died, Terrance Shurn, 28, of Benton Harbor, was black. The police officers from neighboring Benton Township who pursued him into Benton Harbor, where he lost control of his bike and crashed, are white.
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June 21, 2003, 12:10
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Not in this case, but it was said here that this was just the spark to set off the powder keg, and that there were many cases of confrontation between police and black bikers. The majority of the policemen in the town are black, and so is the Chief of the Police Department.
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June 21, 2003, 12:11
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shoot the rioters.
blacks commit crimes. so do whites. it's not our fault the majority of the crimes are committed by minorities.
now the rioters are messing up infastructure, economy, etc.
well, at least most of them probably don't have jobs.
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June 21, 2003, 12:44
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Why are police forces superceding jurisdictions are the locals failing to enforce the law themselves or are they exporting crime to nieghboring villages.
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