I've HAD it with the slow server - Page 5

DanQ · July 1, 2003, 10:44

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Originally posted by BigFurryMonster

Dan - could you tell us a bit more about what =might= be a practical and suitable solution? Are the server problems indeed due to lack of good hardware/financial means?

Any server will experience technical difficulties regardless of their configuration or how much is paid for them. The most recent downtime incident, which occurred yesterday, was as extended as it was for what was stated in the corresponding report [ see http://apolyton.net/about ]: neither Markos nor myself being online or available to go online to make or put in for the necessary correction. It was honestly just "one of those things", to coin a phrase.

As for why the server went offline in the first place and required human intervention to reboot it, the most likely reason was due to excessive CPU (processor) load and a significant drain on available memory for a prolonged period.

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Dan; Apolyton CS

Harry Seldon · July 1, 2003, 11:00

Ah! The coveted memory leak! Have you tried FreeMem Pro? It'll automatically free memory when it reaches a critical level.

mrmitchell · July 1, 2003, 12:16

Do you think we could sue Rackspace for false advertising? After all, their schtick is fanatical support, always up.

(But now I know the truth...when their ads say 99.9% uptime, the 00.1% is always Apolyton

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Q Classic · July 1, 2003, 13:04

hm... we seem to have had trouble with the servers lately. growing pains, i suppose.

well, here's to hoping they work themselves out.

although i have to admit, when i went to the rackspace site, i first read the "an ev.1 company" as "an evil company".

Panag · July 1, 2003, 13:08

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Originally posted by BigFurryMonster

Dan - could you tell us a bit more about what =might= be a practical and suitable solution? Are the server problems indeed due to lack of good hardware/financial means?

hi ,

if that would the case , then there is only one message ; buy from the store , .....

click and buy your games true the ad's on poly instead of an other firm , .....

there are two powerfull ways to help poly , ....

have a nice day

GhengisFarb™ · July 1, 2003, 13:15

Just an off the wall question: When was the last time anyone archived the threads in the various forums? Does that help with the server issues?

Panag · July 1, 2003, 13:18

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Originally posted by GhengisFarb
Just an off the wall question: When was the last time anyone archived the threads in the various forums? Does that help with the server issues?

hi ,

during the last crash , Mark or Dan burned it all to nine disks or so , ......

have a nice day

H Tower · July 1, 2003, 13:26

he means archive threads as in move them from a open forum to a closed forum

Panag · July 1, 2003, 13:53

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Originally posted by H Tower
he means archive threads as in move them from a open forum to a closed forum

hi ,

Ming or one of the owners would know , .....

have a nice day

GhengisFarb™ · July 1, 2003, 20:44

However, they do it. I remember they used to have the various forums periodically archive the old threads and I wondered if that helped the server load.

Harry Seldon · July 2, 2003, 08:33

I'm pretty sure they already do that, if not automatically then manually. I posted in the Dinosaur forum about a month back and it was the only post there. Now it's gone and the forum's empty again. All the install instructions and walkthroughs are gone from the MOO1/2 forum as well. Maybe they should cut the OT down to two pages total or close it during busy periods.

H Tower · July 2, 2003, 12:47

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Originally posted by Harry Seldon
I'm pretty sure they already do that, if not automatically then manually. I posted in the Dinosaur forum about a month back and it was the only post there. Now it's gone and the forum's empty again. All the install instructions and walkthroughs are gone from the MOO1/2 forum as well.

That is because of the way you view a forum. Forum default is to only view threads that have been active in the last thirty days.
Try looking at this link and you'll see your thread is still there: http://apolyton.net/forums/forumdisp...&daysprune=365

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Maybe they should cut the OT down to two pages total or close it during busy periods.

Burn the heretic!

optimus2861 · July 2, 2003, 15:44

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Originally posted by Harry Seldon
Ah! The coveted memory leak! Have you tried FreeMem Pro? It'll automatically free memory when it reaches a critical level.

Most of those memory-freeing applications are snake-oil; they just force the system to swap out to disk whatever memory is in use, thus freeing your physical memory but not actually releasing any resources. I can't find anything on FreeMem's site to indicate it works any different (lotta buzz, no specifics on how it works). They may mask the problem of a memory-leaking application for a time, but ultimately can't solve it.

Feel free to prove me wrong, though, I never have heard of this one before.

Panag · July 2, 2003, 15:45

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Originally posted by Harry Seldon
I'm pretty sure they already do that, if not automatically then manually. I posted in the Dinosaur forum about a month back and it was the only post there. Now it's gone and the forum's empty again. All the install instructions and walkthroughs are gone from the MOO1/2 forum as well. Maybe they should cut the OT down to two pages total or close it during busy periods.

hi ,

, ...... but the Q is , would closing the OT or any other forum at peak moments solve anything , .....

have a nice day

Harry Seldon · July 2, 2003, 16:25

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That is because of the way you view a forum. Forum default is to only view threads that have been active in the last thirty days.
Try looking at this link and you'll see your thread is still there: http://apolyton.net/forums/forumdis...1&daysprune=365

Ah. Reading is fundamental. I don't think I noticed this happening until we moved to Settler II. Damn my ignorance!

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Feel free to prove me wrong, though, I never have heard of this one before

It takes the least active info and switches it to disk. Does it matter if it kills the process as long as it's not using valuable resources? That doesn't prove you wrong or even give a best practice solution but unless they can schedule an http service recycle it may be a way to extend the crash before it burns. Just a thought.

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but the Q is , would closing the OT or any other forum at peak moments solve anything

It would irrationally upset people, thereby fulfilling my goal of blocking anyone from having a good day.

Take a look at http://apolyton.net/forums and look through the lighted forums. The one that is consistently lit is OT. It gets hammered more than any other forum and since it's not a gaming thread, per se, and this is not a general topic site, exactly, then I assumed that blocking this forum would kill traffic that takes away from the crown jewels of this site. Forwarding this idea makes an @ss out of me (since we didn't assume) but it's something to consider.

Ben Kenobi · July 2, 2003, 19:58

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Burn the heretic!

Seriously, panag answered the question about the load, would shutting down the OT help the server? It seems some of the problems would still be around without the OT.

DanQ · July 2, 2003, 20:28

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Originally posted by mrmitchell
Do you think we could sue Rackspace for false advertising? After all, their schtick is fanatical support, always up.

(But now I know the truth...when their ads say 99.9% uptime, the 00.1% is always Apolyton

)

Correction: Apolyton is hosted by RackShack, not RackSpace.

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Dan; Apolyton CS