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June 23, 2003, 10:23
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Belgium gives in.
In a nod to common sense the government of Belgium has announced that they will amend the much talked about & abused law which allows Belgian courts to bring to trail anyone from anywhere in the world. For the past 10 years the law has been in effect and a great many frivolous law suites have been filed including ones which alleged that both President Bush & Prime Minister Blair were guilty of war crimes.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3012106.stm
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June 23, 2003, 10:26
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I´m not quite happy, but given the potential for abuse I think they did the right thing.
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June 23, 2003, 10:44
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Common sense prevails for once.
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June 23, 2003, 10:45
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Belgium ought not have given in. Infact, they should have deployed two carrier battle groups off the eastern seaboard just to prove that you don't mess with them.
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June 23, 2003, 10:58
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These Belgiummers must be Belgiumming Belgiummed up. This Belgiumming law is the only Belgiumming thing they had going for them. 
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June 23, 2003, 10:59
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Apart from their beer.
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June 23, 2003, 10:59
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I think the law itself is bullocks, but I don't like Belgium has given in to the USA. 
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June 23, 2003, 11:09
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That law always reminded me of the old Monty Python one-liner on how to balance the budget in the UK:
"I think we should tax all foreigners living abroad."
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June 23, 2003, 11:12
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I´m not quite happy, but given the potential for abuse I think they did the right thing.
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What BeBro said.
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June 23, 2003, 11:18
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Originally posted by Maniac
I think the law itself is bullocks, but I don't like Belgium has given in to the USA.
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If the law was bollocks, why does it matter why they changed it?
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June 23, 2003, 11:24
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Belgium did NOT amend the law because of American pressure.
At least, that is what our politicians say. 
Anyway, removing NATO headquarters from Brussels would cost an estimate 3000 jobs.
Removing American traffic from the port of Antwerp a great deal more.
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June 23, 2003, 11:27
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Originally posted by St Leo
These Belgiummers must be Belgiumming Belgiummed up. This Belgiumming law is the only Belgiumming thing they had going for them.
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Congratulations! You win the award for the Most Gratuitous Use of the Word "Belgium" in a Serious Apolyton OT Thread.
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June 23, 2003, 11:37
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Are you American, Lorizael? I am pretty sure that the Belgium tirade only appears in the American edition of the third book. I, personally, have the British edition which lacks it.
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June 23, 2003, 11:41
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This law was wack, but no more wack then Helms-Burton.
OK OK, it was a little more wack.
Maybe the Beligian courts/parliament can just hold special sessions to list 'people abroad we don't like'.
The North Koreans do it.
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June 23, 2003, 11:58
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If the law was bollocks, why does it matter why they changed it?
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I don't like Belgium has given in to the USA.
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June 23, 2003, 12:00
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I believe I asked why that matters to you if you agree with the result?
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June 23, 2003, 12:23
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Are you American, Lorizael? I am pretty sure that the Belgium tirade only appears in the American edition of the third book. I, personally, have the British edition which lacks it.
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How odd. And yes, I am an American. Actually, I've got the Omnibus edition which is the first three books in one, plus a little explanation of how The Guide came to be, and directions for getting off the planet.
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June 23, 2003, 13:50
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I believe I asked why that matters to you if you agree with the result?
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I presumed the "I don't like Belgium has given in to the USA." phrase would give you information enough.  I agree with the result but I don't like the method it was done. Would you like it if some country meddled with your internal affairs?
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June 23, 2003, 14:10
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I must congratulate the US goverment with this result  , I'm astound on how brilliant they are in atagonising people towards the US.
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Was it a silly law, no it wasn't, it was just obused, the latest one, (although they did it just to show how easy it was ), was filing lawsuit against our foreign minister for selling arms to Nepal (legaly).
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Infact, they should have deployed two carrier battle groups off the eastern seaboard just to prove that you don't mess with them.
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We wanted too, really. But one of our two officers is down with the flew and the other one didn't want to chip in for gasoline to keep the dinghy running. 
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June 23, 2003, 15:40
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Why didn't Belgium contine the Maginot line? Wouldn't it have been a lot cheaper than getting overrun by the Germans?
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June 23, 2003, 15:51
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Would you like it if some country meddled with your internal affairs?
Oh, the irony.
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June 23, 2003, 15:58
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Would you like it if some country meddled with your internal affairs?
Oh, the irony.
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That comment itself is ironic
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June 23, 2003, 16:11
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Originally posted by GP
Why didn't Belgium contine the Maginot line? Wouldn't it have been a lot cheaper than getting overrun by the Germans?
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It was continued (though maybe not completely because Belgium became neutral in 1936, plus they skipped the Ardennes because it was thought of as a "natural fortress" )
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June 23, 2003, 17:35
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Originally posted by DanS
Would you like it if some country meddled with your internal affairs?
Oh, the irony.
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Something just passed my mind you know ... The US removing Saddam in Iraq
I consider that meddling with someone elses internal affairs as well, but a lot more harshly in my very humble opinion, and on top of that quite unjustified too.
Oh, the irony huh DanS?
Once again, arrogance and serious threats from America's part prevail!
Boy and you cowboys are always wondering why so many people on this **** called earth hate you?
It's not the change in the law that annoys me, but the faggy way America manipulated it in their advantage does, actually. Someone should get Rumsfeld out o' there and put him in a mental institution
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June 23, 2003, 17:47
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He already is, it's called the white house for a reason, you know.
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June 23, 2003, 17:52
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It's not the change in the law that annoys me, but the faggy way America manipulated it in their advantage does, actually.
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The Europeans whine about the Death Penalty in the US, why can't we whine about laws in Europe that we disagree with?
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June 23, 2003, 17:54
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We don't threaten to demand the move of the UN out of New York if you don't comply with our whining.
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June 23, 2003, 17:56
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Just because we have the ability to back up our whining is no reason to get out of shape.
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June 23, 2003, 18:30
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Just because we have the ability to back up our whining is no reason to get out of shape.
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Apparently being impotent has severely restricted their sense of humor.
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June 23, 2003, 18:32
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