The AI bribed my capitol city!?

geofelt · June 25, 2003, 01:07

I was on the way to a spaceship landing, and the vikings landed a spy and made rome(my capitol with many wonders in it) revolt!
Fortunately, I had gold to move my palace, and a spy with gold available to take it back.
---I thought this was impossible--- this was 2.42

Gatekeeper · June 25, 2003, 01:44

Were you playing a scenario of some sort? Or a game where the rules were even just a bit "personalized?"

I ask because I've seen it happen at the Emperor level on my games on occasion — Macintosh version.

Gatekeeper (and, hey, one time I had the AI bribe a city with 60 divisions of armor and howizters in it ... don't ask me where they got the money ... cheat, y'know)

Scouse Gits · June 25, 2003, 03:40

geofelt ... do you have a save to post just before this happened?

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Hydey · June 25, 2003, 06:47

I did not think this was possible

DrSpike · June 25, 2003, 08:17

Are you using the MAC version? If not what 'tweaks' have you got in place?

rah · June 25, 2003, 08:24

Yes, a save would be nice. This couldn't have been a normal game.

geofelt · June 25, 2003, 19:31

I did not think to go back to the autosave. This was a normal game, pc version, no mods, on 2.42. Earlier in the game, I double clicked on a square, and I got a message of some sort of a suystem problem and inviting me to continue or abort. I continued, thinking I could use the autosave, later if needed, but everything seemed normal. This was perhaps 20 or 30 turns earlier.

Heresson · June 25, 2003, 20:48

Well, I was playing a 1-city game once. It was going hard, but I had some 4 wonders in my very big and modern city,
and it was spaceship time, when a (I think it was a viking one as in your case, but I may be wrong) bribed it and destroyed my civ! I was furious.

rah · June 26, 2003, 08:48

Interesting. Never ever heard of it before this thread. Now I really want to see a save.

Heresson · June 26, 2003, 16:24

I think I reloaded, spot the spy and destroyed him, and continued the game. so don't count for it.

War4ever · June 26, 2003, 17:29

too bad you dont have the save....... i have never had my capital taken by revolution before.....

impressive if true...and something new

Gatekeeper · June 26, 2003, 20:23

It happens on the Mac version now and then, too, and only on the Emperor and higher levels.

Gatekeeper

War4ever · June 26, 2003, 23:45

i learned something new...... seems this is habit forming the last while

rah · June 27, 2003, 08:38

I'd like to hear of a PC version example, that didn't include a system error during the session.

Elephant · June 27, 2003, 13:44

Could the Spy have sabotaged the Palace?

I did not think this could happen, either. Especially in OCC. We need to see a SAV.

rah · June 27, 2003, 14:00

I didn't think a palace could be sabatoged. But I have a lack of experience in these situations.

geofelt · June 27, 2003, 14:56

I saw a spy and a howitzer land. The howitzer fired twice, damaging my MI's, then the spy bribed the city. It turned to the vikings, not just a random palace sabotage.

rah · June 27, 2003, 17:36

Are you sure the spy did not capture the city. Sometimes it happens real quick, expecially where howi's are concerned.

Gatekeeper · June 27, 2003, 19:05

Spies cannot capture cities, unless the PC version of Civ II is radically different from the Mac version. Settlers and engineers, however, *can* capture cities. Caravans/freights *cannot* capture cities.

Six Thousand Year Old Man · June 27, 2003, 22:52

Quote:

Originally posted by geofelt
I saw a spy and a howitzer land. The howitzer fired twice, damaging my MI's

If it fired twice, it would have to have destroyed one of the MIs, if not both.

Heresson · June 28, 2003, 14:24

I had LOTS of units in the city... It was bribed for sure.

geofelt · June 28, 2003, 18:01

The message was "citizens of rome revolt" or something like that. I bribed the city back next turn, and saw two MI's with damage in the yellow. I think this is a bug, although my palace is not often in a place where a spy can get to it while a spaceship is in flight.

Gatekeeper · June 29, 2003, 02:20

I think it's a *rare* AI cheat ability at the Emperor and above levels, personally.

DrSpike · June 29, 2003, 06:02

Possible but I would have thought someone else would have encountered it and mentioned it. My money is on a bug until we have further information.

Heresson · June 29, 2003, 07:39

Quote:

Originally posted by Gatekeeper
I think it's a *rare* AI cheat ability at the Emperor and above levels, personally.

My guess as well

rah · June 30, 2003, 09:07

I am surprised. Over all the years here, this is the first time that someone has mentioned this. Especially after years of OCC.

DrSpike · June 30, 2003, 09:18

Even if the phenomenon existed I would think the cap was exempt in OCC.

Gatekeeper · July 1, 2003, 01:55

Well, I've mentioned it once or twice before, rah, but I suppose everyone just thought it was a Mac-centric issue. Well, HAH! You were all wrong! NYAH-NYAH!

Gatekeeper

War4ever · July 1, 2003, 03:52

i do believe i remember you stating this...i chalked it up to nonsense before tho

Scouse Gits · July 1, 2003, 07:31

Gatekeeper ... I don't doubt you

But I wll believe you when you post a save we can all inspect

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