Whats this disorder? Part 2

Nubclear · July 1, 2003, 04:55

Without sleeping medications, it takes 24 hours (!!!) for me to fall asleep. I wake up at 7 AM....And then if I dont get my meds (or for some reason they refuse to work), then I'll go to sleep at 7 AM.
if I do stay up for 24 hours, my sleep is usually very restless with me waking up several times during the night/day and then (of course) i'm tired the next day.

What sleeping disorder is this? I don't think it's insomnia, because 24 hours is just too long, it has to be something bigger than this.

They've tested my blood....And everything is fine. They don't know what it is, and neither do I. Maybe you might

Zylka · July 1, 2003, 04:57

Oddly enough, Zyprexa 3.75 mg or so might be in order

Does this come around during Spring and Summer?

Nubclear · July 1, 2003, 05:00

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Originally posted by Zylka
Oddly enough, Zyprexa 3.75 mg or so might be in order

I take it, and then my hand begins to shake

Does this come around during Spring and Summer? [/QUOTE]

Prime Months:

December, January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August

Peaceful Months:

September, October, November, December

Zylka · July 1, 2003, 05:03

I don't have a clue, and am obviously not even NEAR qualified to give a stable opinion! What's your celexa dose, 40mg? Serequel might be an optional replacement for Zyprexa, but that is a NASTY med for some.

This is not something sleeping pills wil fix - I do recommed a gram or two of tryptophen a few hours before desired bedtime though. It's really a supplement more than anything (helpful in reproducing seretonin), and I don't *think* you need a prescription for it in the States. Does a lot for some people in regulating sleep, without drowsiness

Nubclear · July 1, 2003, 05:07

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Originally posted by Zylka
I don't have a clue, and am obviously not even NEAR qualified to give a stable opinion! What's your celexa dose, 40mg? Serequel might be an optional replacement for Zyprexa, but that is a NASTY med for some.

40 MG CELEXA
25 MG SERAQUIL
25 MG PAXIL
6 MG MELATONIN Whehter I take it or not, it has no effect at all.

geeslaka · July 1, 2003, 05:10

Life is nothing but a dream. And you are extremely unwilling to return to the real world.

Zylka · July 1, 2003, 05:12

That's quite a cocktail they're brewing you there. I see absolutely no reason for TWO different SSRI's mixed, unless they're tapering you off one and introducing a replacement?

Melatonin... is that not more related to structuring cycle rather than onset of sleep? Well... I'd say you should ask your doctor about two grams of tryptophen, and transfer to one or the other of the anti depressants. I mean having two of them interacting on you must be putting something out of whack and keeping you up so long

Ecthy · July 1, 2003, 05:13

you guys are truly sick... all the anti depressants, sleeping pills and so on... sick!!

Nubclear · July 1, 2003, 05:13

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Originally posted by Ecthelion
you guys are truly sick... all the anti depressants, sleeping pills and so on... sick!!

We have more fun

laurentius · July 1, 2003, 05:15

they're the aliens I WAS talking about!

Zylka · July 1, 2003, 05:15

Oh and Tass... one thing I've found miraculous in getting sleep back in order (ironic as I post at quarter past 3 am) - is sunlight. When you're up in the morning - before noon, spend A FEW HOURS in the sun if possible, just hanging out. Do this on a routine basis, according to what you can afford. Sunlight in the morning sets off a chemical motion that will have you sleepy at appropriate times. Light is a huge variable in sleep cycles

Zylka · July 1, 2003, 05:16

Ecth will be joining us shortly, Tass. As with all pre pill poppers, he's a little shy to the idea of prozac culture

Nubclear · July 1, 2003, 05:16

Quote:

Originally posted by Zylka
Oh and Tass... one thing I've found miraculous in getting sleep back in order (ironic as I post at quarter past 3 am) - is sunlight. When you're up in the morning - before noon, spend A FEW HOURS in the sun if possible, just hanging out. Do this on a routine basis, according to what you can afford. Sunlight in the morning sets off a chemical motion that will have you sleepy at appropriate times. Light is a huge variable in sleep cycles

Ill try it.

*Just took his sleeping pill. Goodnight, Poly...*

Ecthy · July 1, 2003, 05:17

zylka

I don't get tired automatically with sunlight fading away anymore, as kids and stone age people do/did. but as soon as it gets early in the morning and the sun comes out and the birds start to sing, I begin to feel sleepy despite being alright until 30 minutes before. us civilized guys just have a ****ed up sensitivity to natural light.

Ecthy · July 1, 2003, 05:18

the

to sunlight statement, not too "I'm prozac man zylka" statement

Cruddy · July 1, 2003, 08:22

Maybe you you should try shovelling sh1t for 12 hours a day? If you are not tired, you won't sleep.

Proteus_MST · July 1, 2003, 08:38

Not exactly, it is not the exercise which gets you tired, but the rise in Body Temperature which lets your desire to sleep rise.

But as your Body Temperature rises with Exercises, a lot of sports could really be helpful

btw.
normally there is nothing wrong with few sleep as each person has individual differences of the hours they sleep.
Try reading the Chapter "Sleep" in Carlson: "Physiology of Behavior". It covers the underlying basic principles.

There is also a case mentioned of a woman which had just 1.5 h of sleep per day and had no Problems with it (she always wodnered why other people waste so much time with sleeping

)

Ecthy · July 1, 2003, 08:41

Proteus, is there anyone in Germany who takes such medication?

oder läuft das nur bei den Angelsachsen so extrem? müssen die Auswirkungen des Turbokapitalismus sein

MRT144 · July 1, 2003, 08:45

tassadar, i have the same problem. i attribute it to

a. lack of light
b. lack of execercise
c. slight depression
d. slight OCD

Ecthy · July 1, 2003, 08:47

what is OCD?

MRT144 · July 1, 2003, 08:48

obsessive compulsive disorder

Ecthy · July 1, 2003, 08:51

what does it mean?

and what is a slight depression? depression can never be slight. and if it is, it's not a depression.

that line must be signature worthy.

Proteus_MST · July 1, 2003, 09:41

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Originally posted by Ecthelion
Proteus, is there anyone in Germany who takes such medication?

I think there will be some Docs around who prescribe you any pill you like, if you just ask them kindly

Of course not the kind of Doc you should visit if you´ve got some really illnesses

Quote:

Originally posted by Ecthelion
oder läuft das nur bei den Angelsachsen so extrem? müssen die Auswirkungen des Turbokapitalismus sein

"Turbokapitalismus"
Das sollte man glatt als neues Krankheitssyndrom in die Liste der psychischen Erkrankungen aufnehmen

Leichte Schlafstörungen als Folge von "Nicht abschalten Können" die dank darauf erfolgter übermäßiger Medikation mit Schlafmitteln plötzlich zu gravierenden Schlafproblemen anwachsen

Brundlefly · July 1, 2003, 10:27

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000

40 MG CELEXA
25 MG SERAQUIL
25 MG PAXIL
6 MG MELATONIN Whehter I take it or not, it has no effect at all.

Don't be concerned about "What disorder do I have?" It's irrelevant. Why do you need to know - so you can introduce yourself properly as a sick person? Stop thinking of yourself as sick. You are not sick. We all have problems in life to deal with. You are no different than anyone else.

Doctors will be more than happy to use you as a guinea pig for the latest depression drug or to try out combinations of drugs on you. I've been through that and let me tell you something. I did not truly get over my depression until I gave up these drugs all together and took responsibility for my life and my depression. I started eating right and excercising frequently. I forced myself to have a positive frame of mind. I've never felt better. Celexa. Paxil. No wonder you are walking around like a zombie. These drugs keep your head in a cloud and prevent you from dealing with your pain. To truly get better you have to have the courage to feel your pain and deal with it.

Good luck. Hope this advice works for you.

SlowwHand · July 1, 2003, 10:49

I was going to say, ask Z.
Of course, ever ready to help, he was right there.

MattH · July 1, 2003, 11:10

Try upgrading your drivers, and patching your body. If that doesn't help, try a reinstall.

MattH · July 1, 2003, 11:10

Oops, wrong forum

Provost Harrison · July 1, 2003, 13:02

Quote:

Originally posted by Tassadar5000

We have more fun

20mg Fluoxetine
10mg Propranolol

Drugs are cool

Provost Harrison · July 1, 2003, 13:04

Quote:

Originally posted by Feephi

Don't be concerned about "What disorder do I have?" It's irrelevant. Why do you need to know - so you can introduce yourself properly as a sick person? Stop thinking of yourself as sick. You are not sick. We all have problems in life to deal with. You are no different than anyone else.

Doctors will be more than happy to use you as a guinea pig for the latest depression drug or to try out combinations of drugs on you. I've been through that and let me tell you something. I did not truly get over my depression until I gave up these drugs all together and took responsibility for my life and my depression. I started eating right and excercising frequently. I forced myself to have a positive frame of mind. I've never felt better. Celexa. Paxil. No wonder you are walking around like a zombie. These drugs keep your head in a cloud and prevent you from dealing with your pain. To truly get better you have to have the courage to feel your pain and deal with it.

Good luck. Hope this advice works for you.

I disagree, in this artificial world we have great strains put upon us which aren't natural...antidepressants act as the great equaliser for me, and propranolol keeps my anxiety at bay. I can get on with stuff and make plans now...

Aivo½so · July 1, 2003, 13:21

30mg Remeron+1mg Risperdal

Though I'm not exactly having fun

I agree with Provost about the unnatural strains bit though.