What do you just hate in games... - Page 2

Garth Vader · July 7, 2003, 18:13

The usual AI cheats and buggy games.

Plus sequels that build on the worst parts of the previous ones, and cut out all the best parts. (cough) Moo3 (cough)

Skanky Burns · July 7, 2003, 19:07

You know a game has good music when you read something like:

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Originally posted by Smash
"ease off the pressure,slow down your wheels and put away the spank"

and you can hear the music that plays in the game while he is saying that.

Imran Siddiqui · July 7, 2003, 19:51

PDF manuals! I ****ing hate them!

Corollary, no paper manual and NO tutorial... so you want me to screw up in a game that counts simply to learn the game? Great...

Dis · July 7, 2003, 20:29

I seem to be the only person who likes the civ3 modern era music

I have weird musical tastes.

The music for recent rpg's hasn't impressed me.

I do like games where you can bring in your own mp3's.

General Ludd · July 7, 2003, 20:39

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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
PDF manuals! I ****ing hate them!

Games without pdf manuals.

Urban Ranger · July 7, 2003, 22:21

PDF manuals are okay, but I much rather they do it the way like Alpha Centauri or with compiled HTML. This way, you can look up terms and go back and forth. Sure, you can link in PDF documents, but you can't go back.

Odin · July 8, 2003, 01:06

I like Simearth too, but ever since I got my new computer the Geology model has been acting up.

in the precambrian (geologic time scale) whole chunks of a landmass would dissapear suddenly and be replaced with a bunch of one-tile islands. it seems to be a bug the the plate tectonics engine because it doesn't happen when I turn continental drift off.

Has anyone else have this problem?

DarkCloud · July 8, 2003, 12:02

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Cheating computer players.

I agree wholeheartedly. There is almost no excuse for this with today's AI systems! Perhaps 3 years ago, but no more! Can't the inequality stop!

Posters for Gaming Equality!

Urban Ranger · July 8, 2003, 12:11

Yeah, or else let us cheat too.

j/k

DrSpike · July 8, 2003, 12:41

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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
PDF manuals are okay, but I much rather they do it the way like Alpha Centauri or with compiled HTML. This way, you can look up terms and go back and forth. Sure, you can link in PDF documents, but you can't go back.

PDF manuals are great if you don't buy the game.

DarkCloud · July 8, 2003, 16:19

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Yeah, or else let us cheat too.

Yes certainly! Just like Civ II

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I also hate PDF manuals... I never read them- I spend too much time staring at a computer screen as it is!!!

Urban Ranger · July 8, 2003, 22:29

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Originally posted by DarkCloud
Yes certainly! Just like Civ II

Or using walkthroughs for RPGs and adventures.

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Originally posted by DarkCloud
I also hate PDF manuals... I never read them- I spend too much time staring at a computer screen as it is!!!

I thought you are a computer?

geeslaka · July 8, 2003, 22:52

I hate sequels that cripple and/or remove features.(the wall-jump on Metroid Fusion is crippled and useless!

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Grumbold · July 9, 2003, 09:39

The usual AI cheats and buggy games.

Plus sequels that build on the worst parts of the previous ones, and cut out all the best parts. (cough) Moo2 (cough)

PDF manuals that you need to refer to when playing, resulting in Alt-Tabbing breaking the atmosphere (especially when Alt-Tab doesn't work properly).

Games that crash just as they autosave, corrupting the file.

Cynical cash ins: GarbageTruk Tycoon (EGA)

Cynical cross-genre cash-ins: Civilization Overlord 3D Attack the FPS!

College student project models relabelled as games: Sim Train Timetable!

Games that selectively misquote reviews on their packaging: "As good as Baldur's Gate! PCCaper" from "even with a million years more development time the syphalitic monkeys responsible for this piece of excrement could never come close to making it as good as Baldur's Gate!"

DrSpike · July 9, 2003, 11:01

Hehe, nice selection.............I think I agree with all those.

gopher · July 9, 2003, 22:17

Games where the manual is WAY different than the finished product, i.e. detailing unkept features

Ben Kenobi · July 9, 2003, 22:33

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Games that came without translation or subtitles

Actually, I share your concern, even though I am a native english speaker. I really enjoy adventure games with closed captioning.

That's why I'm still playing Full Throttle

Adagio · July 10, 2003, 07:13

...Games where the box says "Includes MP", and the first thing you notice when opening the box, is a small note saying "MP couldn't be in this release, but will be download-able as a patch later"... and 2 years later, that patch still doesn't exist...

FrustratedPoet · July 10, 2003, 10:50

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Originally posted by ADG
...Games where the box says "Includes MP", and the first thing you notice when opening the box, is a small note saying "MP couldn't be in this release, but will be download-able as a patch later"... and 2 years later, that patch still doesn't exist...

HOMM4 had this problem. The Multiplayer button on the menu did nothing but produce a pop-up saying "Please wait for the multiplayer patch" or something.
IIRC it only took them 6 months to bring it out.

I'd stopped caring long before then.

Urban Ranger · July 10, 2003, 11:18

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Originally posted by ADG
...Games where the box says "Includes MP", and the first thing you notice when opening the box, is a small note saying "MP couldn't be in this release, but will be download-able as a patch later"... and 2 years later, that patch still doesn't exist...

Isn't that false advertising?

Adagio · July 10, 2003, 13:48

Yes it is...

And the story gets worse... About a year after the release of that game, they stopped all work on it, and announced a "Brand new game"... This game had a different name, but the tag line for that game, was exactly the same line, they used for the old game...
Haven't kept up with the story, don't know if it has been cancelled or not... Haven't heard anything about it, so I guess it is...

DarkCloud · July 10, 2003, 16:03

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I thought you are a computer?

ah, so you remember.

But then, it only makes sense. I stare at my screen all day- sometimes, I just feel that I have to look out, read something... read a non e-book... sometimes... the longing gets to me

Footie Mad · July 10, 2003, 19:01

People cheating when playing online, starcraft maphack comes to mind.

Space05us · July 10, 2003, 19:35

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I simply can't stand magic (unless it only comes "in small doses") in games, but still there's new "magic games" released every now and then... If some game company releases an RPG game, there's 99% risk, for that game to include magic... way too much magic...

I hate magic too. It ruins the best of games.

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Oh, music is important... that means: It's important to have a switch to turn OFF music in games... if you can't turn it off, the game is 99% certain that it'll be deleted within very short time...

I totaly agree with this too. One example of an x-box game that could use an off switch for music is Jet Set Radio Future, its a decent game but the music just ruins any chance of my completing it.

lets see things I hate....
1. AI that obviously cheats. lets face it if the AI never cheated then there would be no challange.

2. No reward for winning. ie games that end with a simple screen saying you won.

3. Games that advertise to be the best new game on the market, with new innovative ai that can whip any human player. But when you get them you find the ai to be laughable. They quickly end up in the old game pile.
A good example of this is the Axis&Allies computer game which has such good AI that even the best of player will have trouble. I've taken over Japan and Germany as Russia with little to no help from the other allies, and Im a mediocre A&A player.

4. Games that are clones of other games

5. Games that trade off a good story line for good graphics, game developer still havent learned that graphics may be what sells the first game, but its the story line that keeps 'em coming back for the sequel.

Urban Ranger · July 10, 2003, 23:28

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Originally posted by Space05us
1. AI that obviously cheats. lets face it if the AI never cheated then there would be no challange.

That's not true. There are various ways of making AI's so they don't have to cheat yet remain competent. I think Galatic Civilizations did a decent job.

War4ever · July 11, 2003, 01:06

i hate gaming mags which rate games high and they are still crap....

the ratings systems suck and its a crock that the industry can give a game a 8.6 and its majorly flawed

FrustratedPoet · July 11, 2003, 04:36

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Originally posted by War4ever
i hate gaming mags which rate games high and they are still crap....

the ratings systems suck and its a crock that the industry can give a game a 8.6 and its majorly flawed

The best thing about opinions is that they are different from person to person.

Grumbold · July 11, 2003, 05:26

A lot of game magazines review all games with a heavy dose of their particular bias even when they try not to. For instance I always feel PC Gamer (Uk) will score RPG's and strategy games more on interface acclimatisation, coolness and look and feel rather than balance, longevity or mid to late gameplay problems.

FrustratedPoet · July 11, 2003, 05:40

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Originally posted by Grumbold
rather than balance, longevity or mid to late gameplay problems.

It's impossible to account for those things when you have maybe two weeks between the time you receive the review-code and the publication deadline.

Besides, anyone who can't tell the difference between a "Good Game" and a "Bad Game" after maybe 10 hours of playing has no business writing a review in the first place. The various shades of grey in between will always be up to the preference of each individual player.

Urban Ranger · July 11, 2003, 06:56

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Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
It's impossible to account for those things when you have maybe two weeks between the time you receive the review-code and the publication deadline.

Supposedly, Games Domain will only allow you to write a review after a minimum of 50 hours of playing time.

That's good.