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Old July 9, 2003, 12:10   #31
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It's just different idiosyncrasies. For example, I found Mozilla's personal toolbar feature very useful, and I like the way it has the "lock" indicator telling you whether you are on an encrypted page or not.

The really bad thing about the Opera UI is having the address bar and the back and forward buttons at the bottom.
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Old July 9, 2003, 12:11   #32
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I seem to have lost the ability to open new threads or rather 'Poly won't let me.
I seem to be able to post though.

I have been away for a few weeks. are there problems? what's going on.
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Old July 9, 2003, 12:13   #33
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Not that I am aware of.
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Old July 9, 2003, 12:19   #34
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The really bad thing about the Opera UI is having the address bar and the back and forward buttons at the bottom.
you can put them wherever you want, i'm sure of it. even on the side if you want.
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The really bad thing about the Opera UI is having the address bar and the back and forward buttons at the bottom.
You can customise this...........mine are at the top.
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The really bad thing about the Opera UI is having the address bar and the back and forward buttons at the bottom.
you can edit that by going into the view menu.
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But you still have those annoying ads left in Opera, St Leo.
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I don't have to as I don't use Opera.
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There are other ways to get rid of the ads in Opera.
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PM me if you want to get rid of the banners in Opera.
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The really bad thing about the Opera UI is having the address bar and the back and forward buttons at the bottom.

1. Opera 6 and Opera 7 default to them being at the top. Actually, I think Opera 5 did too.
2. Opera is very customizable. They are at the bottom of my screen because I like them there.

Hell, Firebird would get a lot of points in my book even if it just allowed for a vertical tabbar. StrokeIt works very well with it

BTW, doofi, if I wanted to get rid of banners in Opera, I could do it myself. I reserve such treatment for apps that expire.
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Opera also takes significantly longer than Konqueror to load a page. btw - is there a keyboard shortcut for switching between tabs?
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the 1 button moves you to the left 1 tab, the 2 button moves to the right
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If that's too easy, there's also CTRL+TAB, CTRL+SHIFT+TAB, and the right-click-mouse-wheel-scroll.
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2. Opera is very customizable. They are at the bottom of my screen because I like them there.
Can you add a personal tool bar and put a "lock" icon at the bottom right?
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i would think it a poor OS if your couldn't customize something as simple as that
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Alex/Skanky,

that would be illegal. However it's not an issue with such Open Source browsers as Mozilla.
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And what? Well, there's clearly ideological and technical differencies between Open Source, Free Software and cracked software. And it's all in favour for Open Source and Free Software as clearly it's 1. 100% legal, 2. 100% legally free of charge, 3. much more community friendly, 4. 100% public source code, 5. more secure as you can't be sure about the goodwill of all crackers, 6. Mozilla is known as more standard compliant and now we will also see CSS3 support, so there's development going on, 7. community initiatives unlike with Opera Software (e.g. Mozilla Evangelism which promotes web standards). You can't beat that all with a cracked Opera browser.
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I still prefer Opera. Call me pigheaded.
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Okay, from now on I shall refer to you as Pig Headed in the Wrong Direction.
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Okay, from now on I shall refer to you as Pig Headed in the Wrong Direction.
Don't be absurd.

I prefer Pig Headed in the Wrong Direction who uses Opera.

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i still like opera too. then again, i find myself frequently using all three major browsers.
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Can you add a personal tool bar and put a "lock" icon at the bottom right?
how do you do this in Mozilla? Or am I asking a stupid question?
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Nah, you're not stupid. UR is just refering to the lock icon in the down right corner which indicates a secure (HTTPS) connection or an insecure unencrypted connection (HTTP and FTP). This is a standard feature of Mozilla, Netscape (ever since SSL was introduced back in Netscape Navigator 3.0) and AFAIK all other Gecko powered browsers. The personal toolbar phrase refers to the either the Personal Toolbar with bookmarks and such or the sidebar. Whichever UR meant.
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The personal toolbar phrase refers to the either the Personal Toolbar with bookmarks and such or the sidebar. Whichever UR meant.
The bookmarks. I don't like the sidebar because it takes up precious real estate.
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Dr. Spike is pigheaded from now on...someone alert Ming in the name changes thread pls
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The bookmarks. I don't like the sidebar because it takes up precious real estate.
It can all be customised. Have you even used Opera?
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UR,

indeed. I have it hidden too because of that.

Spikey,

I have used Opera 6.03, 7.0 and 7.1, and I have always found them less good than Netscape Communicator, Netscape, Mozilla or Mozilla Firebird. This is of course slightly biased as I'm a longterm Netscape user back from 1997. So yes, I can stand behind my words as I have used Opera too. Not sure about UR.
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