Hong Kong Democrats Victorious...

DanS · July 9, 2003, 23:09

Basically, they've put the fork in the commie Beijing-appointed governor and the commie anti-subversion law dictated by Beijing. 500,000 demonstrated out of a total population of 7 million.

Rock on!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?nav=hptop_ts

Urban Ranger · July 9, 2003, 23:12

Democrats? They won't know if democracy hits them in the head.

DanS · July 9, 2003, 23:13

Well, at least they know what it isn't--i.e., bad laws dictated from the out of touch commies in Beijing.

Urban Ranger · July 9, 2003, 23:15

I don't know, even Martin Lee himself said Section 23 is okay.

DanS · July 9, 2003, 23:18

And your point is.... ?

DinoDoc · July 9, 2003, 23:20

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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
I don't know, even Martin Lee himself said Section 23 is okay.

Is Section 23 anything like Section 31?

Urban Ranger · July 9, 2003, 23:21

How could they be bad laws if both the Brits and the so called "Democrats" gave their approval?

Urban Ranger · July 9, 2003, 23:27

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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Is Section 23 anything like Section 31?

More like Stayman

Joseph · July 9, 2003, 23:58

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Originally posted by DanS
Basically, they've put the fork in the commie Beijing-appointed governor and the commie anti-subversion law dictated by Beijing. 500,000 demonstrated out of a total population of 7 million.

Rock on!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?nav=hptop_ts

The boys in Peking and I mean Peking may still have the last vote.
Don't be surprise if they excised that vote and whack a few thousand heads.

Q Classic · July 10, 2003, 00:00

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Is Section 23 anything like Section 31?

No more than the KGB was like the Tal Shiar.

Q Classic · July 10, 2003, 00:01

maybe we should get ready for tian an men square 2.0

GePap · July 10, 2003, 00:02

The Party is trying to make Hongo Kong inot a model to show they can be nice. So they had to back down. Too bad such an attept anywhere else in China would not be recieved as passively by the Party.

Nubclear · July 10, 2003, 00:04

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Originally posted by DanS
Basically, they've put the fork in the commie Beijing-appointed governor and the commie anti-subversion law dictated by Beijing. 500,000 demonstrated out of a total population of 7 million.

Rock on!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?nav=hptop_ts

I hope to god that someday Hong Kong will become seperate from China. China seems to be unable to break it's dictatorial history, and the citizens of Hong Kong should not have to endure what the citizens of China have had to endure for years.

Of course, I also advocate the liberation of China as well.

Urban Ranger · July 10, 2003, 00:10

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
China seems to be unable to break it's dictatorial history, and the citizens of Hong Kong should not have to endure what the citizens of China have had to endure for years.

Like being second class citizens under British rule?

Frozzy · July 10, 2003, 00:12

Please. It's not like we were Nazis or anything to HK.

Urban Ranger · July 10, 2003, 00:18

No, but all the highest officials were Brits, and all the rules were either made in Whitehall or in the British Parliament.

Things got steadily better since the '80s, but Patten screwed us up bad.

Nubclear · July 10, 2003, 00:24

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Originally posted by Urban Ranger

Like being second class citizens under British rule?

No, I'm thinking about pictures like these (no dead ones. Though I found PLENTY!)

I mean as an independant political entity with its own government structure and democracy.

Frozzy · July 10, 2003, 00:25

Well, Hong Kong was a dominion. The US does it to Hawaii. France does it to Corsica. New Zealand did it to Samoa.

Why is Hong Kong any different?

Frozzy · July 10, 2003, 00:31

Tassadar: I returned from Hong Kong two weeks ago after a week there, and I must admit some of the buildings there are pretty modern, and put shame to those pictures there.

However, it has to be impressed that a lot of the buildings from British periods are somewhat "shoddy".

Most the buildings from post-Britain are most flash indeed (I point out in particular the airport and the Mass Transit System). The hotel I was in (Holiday Inn, Downtown Hong Kong) was next to a place called Chungking House. It was the most derilect building I had ever seen in a metropolis, and no effort what so ever had been made to restore it.

I realise Hong Kong is a S.A.R. to Beijing, but killing non-Chinese history like that was quite shocking, to say the least.

Nubclear · July 10, 2003, 00:36

Some pictures of HONG KONG:

I like this picture. It shows a small boat in the face of an advanced, modern city.

HONG KONG SPECIAL ADMINISTRATIVE REGION

Frozzy · July 10, 2003, 00:40

I'll post some pictures of my visit to HK soon.

But I must tell Tassadar those buildings above were all made from bamboo scaffolding.

Go figure.

Urban Ranger · July 10, 2003, 00:43

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Originally posted by Frozzy
Well, Hong Kong was a dominion. The US does it to Hawaii. France does it to Corsica. New Zealand did it to Samoa.

Why is Hong Kong any different?

I was just responding to Tassadar, as he seems to think that we were better off under colonial rule.

Frozzy · July 10, 2003, 00:44

Right. This one is taken from mainland Hong Kong, on the way to the airport.

If you look in the middle of the photo, across the sea, you can see Tassadar's building, dwarfed by the surrounding ones.