More CNN Polls...

Sava · July 10, 2003, 17:42

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http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/wolf.blitzer.reports/

Did President Bush make an honest mistake in his State of the Union address, or did he deliberately mislead the American public about Iraq?

-Honest Mistake
-Deliberately Misled

Honest mistake 21% 2751 votes

Deliberately misled the public 79% 10103 votes

Total: 12854 votes

Again, an unscientific poll. But nevertheless, relevant.

nah nah nah nah.... nah nah nah nah.... hEYYY HEYYYYYYY GOOOD BYE!

Japher · July 10, 2003, 17:46

Are you going somewhere?

Boris Godunov · July 10, 2003, 17:50

Silly Sava, you should know by now it's perfectly acceptable for a President to lie about matters of national security in order to send our military off to kill and get killed halfway across the world, costing $billions.

But he'd better not lie about a blowjob, dammit!

Imran Siddiqui · July 10, 2003, 17:53

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Again, an unscientific poll.

Yep... since Zogby, a scientific poll has Bush at 58% Approval.

FrustratedPoet · July 10, 2003, 17:57

It's a fairer barometer of world opinion than it is of US opinion. Since I'm willing to bet that the majority of people who voted "deliberately misled" don't have voting rights in the US I don't think it'll have any effect on the election. Barring a miracle Bush is going to walk it.

Boris Godunov · July 10, 2003, 17:57

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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

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Again, an unscientific poll.

Yep... since Zogby, a scientific poll has Bush at 58% Approval.

Except some brown-nosers won't care if Bush lied or not. *coughcough*

And Clinton lied, but had high approval. Still lied, though.

Oh, and the Zogby poll likely doesn't reflect the latest information coming out, either. Blitzer's polls are based on the news of the day.

Zulu Elephant · July 10, 2003, 17:57

What do you Americans think are the chances of Bush losing in 2004?

P.S.
Is that Eddie Izzard in the picture FrustratedPoet?

Sava · July 10, 2003, 17:58

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Originally posted by Japher
Are you going somewhere?

If Republicans in Congress have any morals, Bushy will be going somewhere.

Boris Godunov · July 10, 2003, 17:58

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Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
It's a fairer barometer of world opinion than it is of US opinion. Since I'm willing to bet that the majority of people who voted "deliberately misled" don't have voting rights in the US I don't think it'll have any effect on the election. Barring a miracle Bush is going to walk it.

Ah, but how many felt the same way in '91 about Bush Sr.?

A year and a half is an eternity in politics.

Sava · July 10, 2003, 18:01

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Originally posted by Zulu Elephant
What do you Americans think are the chances of Bush losing in 2004?

http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/4340.html

Created: Mon Jun 30 14:08:21 EST 2003
Do you think President Bush will be re-elected in 2004?
Yes 12% 1501 votes
No 88% 11104 votes
Total: 12605 votes

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...threadid=90851

Oerdin · July 10, 2003, 18:02

Yeah it sucks, but, in the end the war was/is popular so what good is it going to do the Dems? Will people begin to think of Bush as dishonest? I doubt it.

Sava · July 10, 2003, 18:02

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Since I'm willing to bet that the majority of people who voted "deliberately misled" don't have voting rights

don't have voting rights? explain...

Sava · July 10, 2003, 18:03

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White House 'lied about Saddam threat'

Julian Borger in Washington
Thursday July 10, 2003
The Guardian

A former US intelligence official who served under the Bush administration in the build-up to the Iraq war accused the White House yesterday of lying about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein.
The claims came as the Bush administration was fighting to shore up its credibility among a series of anonymous government leaks over its distortion of US intelligence to manufacture a case against Saddam.

This was the first time an administration official has put his name to specific claims. The whistleblower, Gregory Thielmann, served as a director in the state department's bureau of intelligence until his retirement in September, and had access to the classified reports which formed the basis for the US case against Saddam, spelled out by President Bush and his aides.

Mr Thielmannn said yesterday: "I believe the Bush administration did not provide an accurate picture to the American people of the military threat posed by Iraq."

He conceded that part of the problem lay with US intelligence, but added: "Most of it lies with the way senior officials misused the information they were provided."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...995188,00.html

I'm not fond of the Guardian, but American media won't report such a story.

Imran Siddiqui · July 10, 2003, 18:04

Sava: He is saying they don't live in this country. If people overseas vote on the poll it means jack.

Sava · July 10, 2003, 18:05

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Sava: He is saying they don't live in this country. If people overseas vote on the poll it means jack.

ahh I didn't realize he had IP address printouts of the polls... my mistake.

FrustratedPoet · July 10, 2003, 18:20

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Originally posted by Zulu Elephant
P.S.
Is that Eddie Izzard in the picture FrustratedPoet?

Yes.

FrustratedPoet · July 10, 2003, 18:21

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Originally posted by Sava
ahh I didn't realize he had IP address printouts of the polls... my mistake.

Nor do you, however. It's all speculation, and pretty pointless speculation at that.

You'd probably get more reliable data on the opinion of the American public if you just dialed 100 random names from the phone book and asked the people "Do you plan to vote for Dubya in the next election?"

Shi Huangdi · July 10, 2003, 18:53

Internet polls are completely untrustworthy to measure anything except what visitiors to a particular website think. If you took the same poll on www.foxnews.com you'd likely get complely different results. In either case the internet poll would be completely unreliable to inform you about the opinions of the general public.

Kidicious · July 10, 2003, 19:38

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Originally posted by Zulu Elephant
What do you Americans think are the chances of Bush losing in 2004?

I'm fairly confident at this point.

Tuberski · July 10, 2003, 20:19

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Originally posted by Sava
nah nah nah nah.... nah nah nah nah.... hEYYY HEYYYYYYY GOOOD BYE!

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!?!?!?!?!?!

I used this once in a thread that was deleted, now I've seen it twice today!

I must be a trend setter!

Bow down to me!!!!

ACK!

mrmitchell · July 10, 2003, 20:20

Of course he didn't lie, you dumbass. They moved the WoMDs to Syria, now we gotta bomb them!

Skanky Burns · July 10, 2003, 20:22

Yeah, you wish Tuberski.

ACK!

Tuberski · July 10, 2003, 20:25

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Originally posted by Skanky Burns
Yeah, you wish Tuberski.

ACK!

I did, I swear!!!!

It was in Slowwhand's "Why are Gays such Dumbasses" thread.

Of course, I didn't actually write the song but still..........

And you WILL bow to me Skanky......eventually

ACK!

The diplomat · July 10, 2003, 21:03

Bush did not lie because he didn't know the info was false!

Sava · July 11, 2003, 00:02

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Bush did not lie because he didn't know the info was false!

Then he's stupid and incompetent, and therefore, should not be president.

Boris Godunov · July 11, 2003, 00:04

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Originally posted by The diplomat
Bush did not lie because he didn't know the info was false!

And you know this because of your:

A) awesome mindreading capabilities?
B) being present at the White House when the speech was written?
C) certain knowledge that a politician would never lie?
D) lips being firmly planted on Dubya's tush?

Sava · July 11, 2003, 00:06

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lips being firmly planted on Dubya's tush?

more like up his crack

chequita guevara · July 11, 2003, 00:08

While it's rather likely Bush will lose the election, that's no guarantee he won't still be President. He lost last time.

Sava · July 11, 2003, 00:09

run che, you've opened a can of worms!

VJ · July 11, 2003, 00:09

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Again, an unscientific poll. But nevertheless, relevant.

bs.

This thread proves nothing. The only purpose of this thread is to raise the battered ego of Sava by bringing up opions of the stupid people who lowered it just a few months ago.

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Internet polls are completely untrustworthy to measure anything except what visitiors to a particular website think. If you took the same poll on www.foxnews.com you'd likely get complely different results. In either case the internet poll would be completely unreliable to inform you about the opinions of the general public.

for stating the obvious.