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Old July 17, 2003, 12:08   #1
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For the life of me WHY are there random screenings at airports in the U.S.?
How many people use airlines every year in the U.S.? I don’t know offhand, would 50,000,000 be a good number? Probably a little conservative, but lets use that as an example......

Lets say 20 people snuck bombs onto airplanes in the last 12 months and blew them up-which didn’t happen, but lets say it did for the sake of discussion.

Now I THINK the government knows how to do math, but I'm not sure......

20 divided by 50,000,000 is .0000004, or .00004% of the flying people in the U.S. are a threat, 1 in every 2,500,000

How many people are screened every year? 1 in every 200 sound good?

50,000,000 divided by 200 is 250,000 people.

If 1 in every 2,500,000 is a threat, and 250,000 people are screened, do the odds seem very likely, or even possible that they will EVER catch a terrorist planning on blowing up a plane????? And those are conservative numbers, they are really much higher I’m sure.

I did that in about a minute with a pocket calculator, I think the government could do the same…….

Security obviously isn’t a reason, as I don’t think the government is THAT stupid(much as I’d like to) so it must be for political correctness.

We are wasting hundreds of millions of dollars on airport screening we know doesn’t` work?

How many African Americans, South Americans, Caucasians, or Asians have blown up airplanes in U.S. history? I’m not saying single out people of ME descent, what I AM saying is that its idiotic in the extreme to be screening people at random as it is completely ineffectual.

To my knowledge everyone who has committed acts of terrorism against the last 2 or 3 years were male non citizens of Middle Eastern descent between the ages of 18 and 40…… they have no rights as citizens and all those countries hate us anyway, so why not confine all random searches to the group more likely to be a problem and for the hundreds of millions of dollars being wasted, bump up the likeliness of finding something from .00004% to at least 1%?
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They target people who they feel are more likely to be guilty. It increases the odds slightly.
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They target people acting strangely too... seen it in Madrid's airport with several Africans... turns out they were smuggling drugs when they searched their bags.
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they're there to make people feel safer, even if they don't actually do a damn for security.

people in america these days are more than willing to give up freedom and liberty in the name of greater security and protection from terrorism.

looks like the terrorists have already won.
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They target people who they feel are more likely to be guilty. It increases the odds slightly.

The few flights that I have been on they targeted Black women w/ newborns, White kids, & of course drop dead gorgeous Women
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they're there to make people feel safer, even if they don't actually do a damn for security.

people in america these days are more than willing to give up freedom and liberty in the name of greater security and protection from terrorism.

looks like the terrorists have already won.


I disagree... a balancing act was achieved.

And the ****ing terrorists will never win.. NEVER!
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IT'S NOT RANDOM.

They flag letters in your name, apparently, and of course, women.

I've had my underwear and bras thoroughly checked the last 10 times I've flown. I guess there are just millions of Asian female terrorists out there. Amazing - I haven't met a single one (just like female game designers!)
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I disagree... a balancing act was achieved.
was it? for how long?

ask any run of the mill american, which they'd rather have: freedom and liberty, or freedom from terrorism?
i'll bet that you'll find most people will say the latter, without realizing the cost to liberty that it entails.

terrorists have struck fear into the american heart. they did exactly what they wanted to do, bring fear to america, make us realize we weren't invulnerable, and showing the world that we could be killed.

even though americans have a very very very low--almost infinitesimal--probability of being victims of a terrorist attack in the us, citizens here are so afraid of being victims that they're willing to give everything that makes america america in order to be safe.

looks to me like the terrorists are winning.
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yeah, there are. they're called asian mothers.
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looks to me like the terrorists are winning.
I again disagree... but I am late for dinner... talk to you later...
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The airport security is afraid that muslim americans will scream "racial profiling." The backlash against this has become so idiotic that they are afraid of being racist if they pick out a particular groop of people.
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I again disagree... but I am late for dinner... talk to you later...
we are winning they physical battles, on the ground... but the terrorists have succeeded in their one objective, that of bringing terror to america.

enough terror, at least, to make many americans trade their liberties for safety.
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I again disagree... but I am late for dinner... talk to you later...
we are winning they physical battles, on the ground... but the terrorists have succeeded in their one objective, that of bringing terror to america.

enough terror, at least, to make many americans trade their liberties for safety.
Had a short dinner...

Well I don't think they succeeded... that is my opinion...
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do you believe that most americans would trade freedom and liberty for freedom from terrorism?
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do you believe that most americans would trade freedom and liberty for freedom from terrorism?
Honestly, I don't know.
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that's probably why we disagree. i'm under the growing impression that most americans would be willing to make that trade, and i hate that.
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yeah, there are. they're called asian mothers.

I feel your pain.
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that's probably why we disagree. i'm under the growing impression that most americans would be willing to make that trade, and i hate that.
I am inclined to disagree but truly I don't know...
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IT'S NOT RANDOM.

They flag letters in your name, apparently, and of course, women.

I've had my underwear and bras thoroughly checked the last 10 times I've flown. I guess there are just millions of Asian female terrorists out there. Amazing - I haven't met a single one (just like female game designers!)

Perhaps the security people have a thing for asian women like I do
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IT'S NOT RANDOM.

They flag letters in your name, apparently, and of course, women.

I've had my underwear and bras thoroughly checked the last 10 times I've flown. I guess there are just millions of Asian female terrorists out there. Amazing - I haven't met a single one (just like female game designers!)
I have to admit that the paranoia has struck my happy home as well. I regularly search my girlfriends bra and underwear for weapons, bombs, or any sign of arousal, even though I know that there is very little chance of finding anything but the last one.
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Q Cubed: FVCK YOU. That's 'Asian female drivers', thank you very much >
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