July 19, 2003, 20:01
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Dr. Doom is a Bastard
SPOILERS! FOR GOD'S SAKE< DON'T READ IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED! like wombat.
Just got done reading FF #500, the end of the "Unthinkable" story arc.
In short summary, the story began in496 with what I thought was one of those dumbass 'Dr. Doom is really a nice guy' stories, whereby Doom tries to find his childhood girlfriend and win her back. After she falls back in love with him he kills her as a sacrifice to a trio of demons, and Dr. Doom becomes very skilled in the Arcane arts.
In the story Doom goes straight for the jugular. He semi-posses Val Richards, Reed's and Sue's second kid. He banishes Franklin to Hell. He gets the drop on Dr. Strange (much the same way Apollonius did to Golgoth in the STGOD) and when the FF show up in Latveria, he kicks the **** out of them.
The Etheral form of Strange tries to teach Reed some rudimentary sorcery. Before Doom blocks him out, Strange tells Reed that the only condition of Doom's powers is that Doom has to aknowledge his debt to the Demons.
Anywho, there's a fight scene whereby Reed uses a talisman Strange gave him to fight doom. Reed tells doom he will always beweak because his power derives from higher forces.
"Doom is indebted to no one!"
The demons open a portal and pull Doom into Hell. Reed stretches in and rescues Franklin, tells Doom he's going to spend the rest of his days forgetting about him.
Doom permantly scars half of Reed's Face.
The story was great...but the writing was better. Doom really comes across as someone who has lost whatever humanity he once had. He torments the FF and the Richards' kids. In creative horrible ways. He finds his lost love, and tearfully begs her to return, even showing her his horribly scarred face ("I've shown this to no one") when she falls back in love with him, he casually kills her in a gruesome way.
Yes, Doom is a Bastard.
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Last edited by Lonestar; July 19, 2003 at 20:07.
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July 19, 2003, 20:04
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use the spoiler tags!  no point me reading that story then. 
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July 19, 2003, 20:06
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King
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Yeah, lotsa guys around here read Comics, especially the FF. 
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With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worth while, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: "I served in the United States Navy!"
"Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I ****ing changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective." --Barack Obama
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July 19, 2003, 20:07
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Deity
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"No one rivals Doom! There is no power on Earth, no intellect in all creation, to equal mine!"
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July 19, 2003, 20:09
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King
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Well, now Doom is in Hell.
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With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worth while, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: "I served in the United States Navy!"
"Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I ****ing changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective." --Barack Obama
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July 19, 2003, 20:10
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He's already defeated Mephisto once. I don't see why he couldn't do the same again.
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July 19, 2003, 20:10
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King
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These are other Demons.
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With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worth while, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: "I served in the United States Navy!"
"Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I ****ing changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective." --Barack Obama
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July 19, 2003, 20:11
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Deity
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Do you play Heroclix Lonestar?
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Rosbifs are destructive scum- Spiffor
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
If government is big enough to give you everything you want, it is also big enough to take everything you have. - Gerald Ford
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July 19, 2003, 20:11
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King
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Nope.
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With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worth while, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: "I served in the United States Navy!"
"Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I ****ing changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective." --Barack Obama
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July 19, 2003, 20:16
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Deity
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Originally posted by Lonestar
These are other Demons.
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Are they more or less powerful than the ruler of a Hell dimension?
PS You really should. The game is quite good from a fan boy perspective and just plain fun to boot.
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July 19, 2003, 21:27
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Doom is not in hell, and not tormenting the FF either, but tormenting the FF plus one letter...
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July 20, 2003, 02:05
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Too bad the whole story is going to dissapear off the FF storyline. Didn't you hear? They fired the writer 2 months ago at least, so I'm betting that they start over again fresh and completely forget the whole thing.
The word is that the story just isn't acceptable now that they want to make a FF movie. Still, a great story altogether
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July 20, 2003, 02:22
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I do have to say that I am curious if they'll do anything creatively with the power vaccum this will leave in Latveria.
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Rosbifs are destructive scum- Spiffor
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July 20, 2003, 09:37
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Rosbifs are destructive scum- Spiffor
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
If government is big enough to give you everything you want, it is also big enough to take everything you have. - Gerald Ford
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July 20, 2003, 17:52
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Originally posted by H Tower
Too bad the whole story is going to dissapear off the FF storyline. Didn't you hear? They fired the writer 2 months ago at least, so I'm betting that they start over again fresh and completely forget the whole thing.
The word is that the story just isn't acceptable now that they want to make a FF movie. Still, a great story altogether
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Yeah,I heard they'd fired Waid.
Worst. Decision. Ever.
Where, that and the Spider-clones.
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With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worth while, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: "I served in the United States Navy!"
"Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I ****ing changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective." --Barack Obama
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July 20, 2003, 18:01
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King
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Didnt we knew this already from "Marvel Sagas"?
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July 20, 2003, 18:06
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 What is this thread about?
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July 20, 2003, 18:11
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King
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Loser. 
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With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worth while, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: "I served in the United States Navy!"
"Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I ****ing changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective." --Barack Obama
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