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View Poll Results: Is viewing pornography a form of cheating on your girlfriend/boyfriend?
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looking lustfully at bananas is cheating
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July 24, 2003, 11:31
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Boris: Do you ever have contests to see who can slap the other with his Cheney and leave a distinct Cheney impression on the face?
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No. Would you want your Cheney hitting someone's face with the force necessary to create an impression? Ow.
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July 24, 2003, 11:57
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Well, if watching porn is cheating, then I guess the missus has to stop watching those soap operas, because she's secretly fantasiesing about the guys there. I guess we will just have to stop watching tv for good, so no one gets any ideas. It's a fantasy... everyone should realize, that most people have them and they are not 100% exclusively include the wife or husband. Too bad. But it's healthy.. just keep it as a fantasy, not all of them has to be done in real life.
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July 24, 2003, 13:14
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Watching porn with your girlfriend is, obviously, not cheating. Watching porn without your girlfriend is not cheating.
****ing someone else, now THAT'S cheating.
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July 24, 2003, 14:47
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Watching porn with your girlfriend would be a threesome or an orgy!
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July 24, 2003, 15:53
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hmmm...
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July 24, 2003, 15:57
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I've heard some girls even consider a guy to be unfaithful if he rubs on out by himself every now and then. Isn't that a little insecure? I guy can slack his lizard and still love his wife.
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No girl I've ever met has said that. But they usually want you to either be thinking about them (or nobody in particular).
If my girlfriend told me that she played with herself while she was thinking about somebody else or while looking at porn then I'd be really pissed.
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July 24, 2003, 15:59
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If my girlfriend told me that she played with herself while she was thinking about somebody else or while looking at porn then I'd be really pissed.
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Why? Are you saying you never jerk off while looking at porn or thinking of someone else? If so, why the double standard?
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July 24, 2003, 15:59
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Yes, it's cheating.
If you are a ****tard puritan fundie. But then, everything is bad to them.
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I honestly think it's cheating, unless your girlfriend knows and doesn't care.
But I don't want her fantasising sexually about other men, and could not in good faith ask to have her let me fantasise about other women.
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July 24, 2003, 16:01
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[q] If my girlfriend told me that she played with herself while she was thinking about somebody else or while looking at porn then I'd be really pissed.[/q\
Why? Are you saying you never jerk off while looking at porn or thinking of someone else? If so, why the double standard?
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I am honestly telling you that. I have when not in a relationship, and have when with a different girl, but not with my current one. I have felt on a couple of very rare occasions a sexual desire for somebody else, but have managed to resist without much effort.
If your girlfriend keeps you happy and satisfied then there's really no need. If she doesn't then you might want to consider switching.
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July 24, 2003, 16:03
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No, it's not cheating. I downloaded and watched dozens of pornos during last semester. My wife knew that and she even watched a few clips. We both concluded that their contents are very boring and that we could do much better.
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July 24, 2003, 16:03
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It might not be quite cheating, but it's not quite faithful either.
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July 24, 2003, 16:03
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I honestly think it's cheating, unless your girlfriend knows and doesn't care.
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Why? How is lust for others cheating if you do not act upon it? Everyone has 'lust in their hearts'... that does not mean every man is cheating.
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July 24, 2003, 16:05
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I honestly think it's cheating, unless your girlfriend knows and doesn't care.
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Why? How is lust for others cheating if you do not act upon it? Everyone has 'lust in their hearts'... that does not mean every man is cheating.
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You are acting on it. You're making a conscious decision to bring yourself to orgasm while contemplating sex with another woman.
Call up your gf and tell her to talk dirty to you instead. Then fantasise about her in a leather thong and bustier (or whatever floats your boat).
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July 24, 2003, 16:06
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It might not be quite cheating, but it's not quite faithful either.
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I disagree. Unless you want to make the argument that no one is faithful. I can't think of a single person that hasn't lusted over another person while dating someone else.
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So you are saying that you weren't 'faithful'. After all, if your SO kept you happy and satisfied, you wouldn't have had this desire for someone else .
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July 24, 2003, 16:07
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I already explained the difference. I didn't go home and imagine her stripping while undergoing a whackathon.
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July 24, 2003, 16:08
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You are acting on it. You're making a conscious decision to bring yourself to orgasm while contemplating sex with another woman.
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Your point? You don't make conscious decisions to lust after other women? Are you saying that is all involuntary? You never stare at a sexy woman?
Come on! Even Jimmy Carter, the most faithful man alive (probably), even admited 'lust in his heart'!
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July 24, 2003, 16:09
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If your gf doesn't care then that's cool with me. I don't get off on telling other people how to run their relationships. But if she doesn't know then there's a good chance she'd be hurt if she found out. And that's just plain lying.
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July 24, 2003, 16:10
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I already explained the difference. I didn't go home and imagine her stripping while undergoing a whackathon.
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My point is that there is no difference at all. Lust for other woman and masturbating to other women are basically the same. In both, it involves a conscious decision. One is to masturbate, in the other it is to continue to stare or lust.
I mean, based on your comments, one can say if you lust after someone else, then your g/f isn't doing her job!
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July 24, 2003, 16:10
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You are acting on it. You're making a conscious decision to bring yourself to orgasm while contemplating sex with another woman.
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Your point? You don't make conscious decisions to lust after other women? Are you saying that is all involuntary? You never stare at a sexy woman?
Come on! Even Jimmy Carter, the most faithful man alive (probably), even admited 'lust in his heart'!
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Of course you don't make a conscious decision.
You have a hell of a lot more control over whether or not you jerk off while watching porn than you do over whether you fell a bit of lust when you see a woman.
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July 24, 2003, 16:12
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Girlfriends who prevent their boyfriends from consciously thinking out any sexual action with any other female are control freaks, IMO.
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July 24, 2003, 16:13
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Pornography taught me "The Shocker"... two in the stink, one in the pink
tho i never want to try that out . im with Sava and loinburger, never shall another tweeter be present, and never shall i go where poo comes out
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July 24, 2003, 16:16
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I already explained the difference. I didn't go home and imagine her stripping while undergoing a whackathon.
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My point is that there is no difference at all. Lust for other woman and masturbating to other women are basically the same. In both, it involves a conscious decision. One is to masturbate, in the other it is to continue to stare or lust
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This is a complete lie. Staring, yes. Lusting, no. In me, at least, the feeling of desire is as involuntary as my heartbeat. I can do things to control it, but am not in direct control (as I am with my actions)
There is a hell of a lot of difference between feeling desire and whipping out the trouser snake while contemplating the woman.
In one you felt an involuntary urge (and again, I would not be hurt if I found out that my gf had found another man sexually attractive). In the other you deliberately dwelt on it to the point of orgasm. If she did that I'd likely consider walking.
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July 24, 2003, 16:18
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Girlfriends who prevent their boyfriends from consciously thinking out any sexual action with any other female are control freaks, IMO.
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That's interesting. Do you want your girlfriend doing the same while thinking of another man?
If not then basic ethics would indicate that there should be some sort of bilateral understanding that you'll avoid it.
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July 24, 2003, 16:20
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Pornography taught me "The Shocker"... two in the stink, one in the pink
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Other way round.
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July 24, 2003, 16:24
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touchee... i mixed it up typing... i dunno if even a gay man can take two in the stink
OOOOOOOH, Feeeeez.....
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July 24, 2003, 16:25
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Kman, that's usually digits, not members.
Though I am aware that there are women in the industry who do take 2 men at one time through the back channel.
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July 24, 2003, 16:26
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July 24, 2003, 16:30
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Check your PMs.
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July 24, 2003, 16:39
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Girlfriends who prevent their boyfriends from consciously thinking out any sexual action with any other female are control freaks, IMO.
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HERE, HERE!!!
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July 24, 2003, 16:45
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Of course you don't make a conscious decision.
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What if you crane your neck to see a hot girl walk past your office?
Conscious decision... unfaithful?
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In the other you deliberately dwelt on it to the point of orgasm. If she did that I'd likely consider walking.
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Ok Mr. Puritan .
I have had no problem and will continue to have no problem if my SO decides to masturbate will someone else in mind. Chances are every girl (and guy) is doing it anyway.
I don't think you can cheat based on thoughts, just actions. Since I consider masturbation ok, I do NOT consider it cheating because she was thinking about another guy while doing. It is only cheating if she does sexual behavior (kissing included) with another PERSON... having another person on the mind while doing it to herself is alright.
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Do you want your girlfriend doing the same while thinking of another man?
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I've never minded it at all. As long as she is just thinking about another man and doesn't do anything physical with him, I'm totally fine with it.
Just because you fantasize about another woman doesn't mean you'll have sex with them while you are dating someone else. I masturbated with other women in mind while dating my ex. I never once serious thought about kissing, etc. with someone else though.
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