Need a 'hands on' guide to networking.

Sirotnikov · July 27, 2003, 18:23

I want to make a network between several computers in my brother's house.

I glanced in several books about networking and they all begin by presenting a huge theoretical chapter and almost no practical guidance.

I'm a person that can understand theory only after a little practice.

And anyway, I'm not interested in learning about the 'star' type network when all I want to do is hook up 2 computers running win2k.

Where can I find such a guide on the net?

Pekka · July 27, 2003, 18:28

check your PMs.

asleepathewheel · July 27, 2003, 18:30

Try this

I haven't looked at it too much, but it might point you in the right direction.

Sirotnikov · July 27, 2003, 18:32

thanks people

i'll look into to it with next sunrise ... (tommorow

)

Ecthy · July 27, 2003, 18:35

nothing easier than networking, at least up to 98, alas no experience beyond that here

Pekka · July 27, 2003, 18:35

You lazy no good .... !

OneFootInTheGrave · July 27, 2003, 18:36

no need for a guide, just get a crossover cable and two network cards and that is it...

if you want more than 2 PC's than a hub and straight trough cables and you are done... just plug them all in and that should be it... as long as you have win2K or XP - win 9x was a little messier business...

reds4ever · July 27, 2003, 18:36

If it's just two computers just buy two cards and a crossover cable, theres nothing to learn

Though techically correct, a 'network' is a bit too a grand an expression for the linking of two computers;O)

OneFootInTheGrave · July 27, 2003, 18:38

post at the same time

and the first sentence is exactly the same

reds4ever · July 27, 2003, 18:40

Quote:

Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
post at the same time

and the first sentence is exactly the same

I didn't notice

Ecthy · July 27, 2003, 18:40

you really could have asked me on ICQ if it only still worked for me

(<-- dangerous mix of 2nd and 3rd type relative clause.)

Ecthy · July 27, 2003, 18:42

BTW, networking isn't as easy as those guys make it seem. you need to activate sharing of file info in roder to be able to discovered by another machine in the network, no matter if you actually share anything in LAN or not. at least this is in 98 and lower. sometiems we'd wonder why some guy can find the Quake servers but we can't find him, it was ebcause his file sharing was inactive. like a xenophobic computer.

Pekka · July 27, 2003, 18:43

I think he's going for more than two.. he said several computers, so I think he's not just bragging..

But yeah, you'll need a hub, some cables and plugs so you can make the cable go through all the computers, you should do this naked to get better results, and hub'em. Shouldn't be a biggie even with win9x, though you can encounter some unexpected problems (like always with computers). When you're done, you should have your brother naked as well, but no touching! Just take a picture and send here, you'll do just fine. Don't worry, it's all for the process of making this thing work.

Pekka · July 27, 2003, 18:45

Ecthelion, sure, and you can fiddle with those settings entering control panel -> network and from there on. Make sure you share, and have everything correctly set up in there.

Sirotnikov · July 27, 2003, 18:45

well it starts with 2. more will later follow.

and it's 1:40 AM here so i'm definitly not going to start reading that.

Ecthy · July 27, 2003, 18:45

Pekka -

as far as several comps are concerned, the hub is the only difference. not too expensive

and of course you need a crossover cable for each machine

and an additional one if you mean to share a DSL on LAN

Ecthy · July 27, 2003, 18:46

you don't need to read it, it's just more theory.

Panag · July 27, 2003, 18:46

hi ,

, so thats how you plan on getting more performance for the buck , ......

linking up with dad's comp , ......

have a nice night

Pekka · July 27, 2003, 18:46

Ecthelion, Yeah. We are basically just saying the same thing over and over again

. But it's so fun!

reds4ever · July 27, 2003, 18:46

Ect

maybe, you take stuff for granted once youve done it yourself, but if your setting one up for the first time (of aanything for that matter) you should always look in 'options' if only out curiosity, that would sort out the sharing probs

Pekka · July 27, 2003, 18:47

panag, I bet he coudln't just get his dads HD off, so he just networks so he can share all his .. donkey comics

j/k

reds4ever · July 27, 2003, 18:47

Quote:

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
all I want to do is hook up 2 computers running win2k.

edit just saw you post Siro, in that case you need non-crossover cables and a hub

Ecthy · July 27, 2003, 18:48

the best way to test if a LAN is up is a good match of any recent shooter. and if you have got more time on your hands, maybe some RTS as well.

I suggest a menu of file copying in windows, for starters. the main part would be a 3 human players + 3 AI on a 12 players map in WarCraft 3. As a dessert, you can go conservative with Q3A or a UT2003 biggie.

Have a nice meal

Pekka · July 27, 2003, 18:48

Siro, well if you'll start with just 2 and not plan on putting more for a while, then you just need a cable, and that's pretty much about it, plug'em from network card to network card and fiddle with settings.

Ecthy · July 27, 2003, 18:49

reds - different cultures...

Pekka - stop saying the same things over and over again

Pekka · July 27, 2003, 18:50

Ecthelion, sorry. I couldn't help myself..

Ecthy · July 27, 2003, 18:54

OK. now draw one of your funny pics of a standard network with a hub, please?

Panag · July 27, 2003, 18:54

Quote:

Originally posted by Pekka
panag, I bet he coudln't just get his dads HD off, so he just networks so he can share all his .. donkey comics

j/k

hi ,

yeah , evil siro takes over his dads comp , ......

it always starts with something small , and before ya know it , ......

siro , use an USB II cable if the distance aint to big , .....

have a nice day

Pekka · July 27, 2003, 18:55

Ecthelion, NO! My pictures are special, and I will not waste my talents on drawing network guides.

reds4ever · July 27, 2003, 18:56

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Originally posted by Ecthelion
reds - different cultures...

Tell me about it! I'm not particulary tech savvy myself but my friends are even less so, the number of times I get called to 'fix their computer' because theyve changed a setting in an 'options' menu by mistake is amazing. Of course a keep the mystque going by mutttering and scratching my head as a tap away on the keyboard while drinking the offered can of lager!