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			Would someone like the job of looking at the information that you can obtain from other factions. 
 
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Right-Click faction profile, look at how their votes changes. Look at what government system each is running. 
 
This can tell us how fast the other factions are growing and when they discover certain technologies that give those government systems. 
 
For factions we have alliances, maybe the troop statstics screens, and information on the what they're building how long to they finish etc. Look to see how many military units they are supporting too. 
 
This person that does this should probably be the intelligence agency. 
 
I've been doing this a little, but it takes a long time. 
 
By the way the drones aren't geared for war at all. They're just expanding their colonies just like we are. 
 
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			July 28, 2003, 21:07
			
			
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			I am up for covert ops.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			July 28, 2003, 21:13
			
			
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			Sounds interesting, im up for it  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
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			July 28, 2003, 21:15
			
			
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			Heh it also involves alot of spamming too. As each turn you check the other factions and see how they're going then tell us about it. 
 
If you want to try it on for size now. You should open up the hive turn and start posting information into a new thread on other factions. 
 
It's using the freely available information. Later in the game we may need 2 spymasters to trawl through all the information. 
 
Also it's observing who logs on and off and trying to figure out when turns stall and what might have caused them. 
 
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			July 28, 2003, 23:34
			
			
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			I am not online long enough to check who is online and stuff.  When I am online, hardly anyone is around.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			July 29, 2003, 03:02
			
			
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			This is something I would like to do, I would also consider this would be related to "assuming" there political intentions.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
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			July 29, 2003, 04:16
			
			
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			Instead of everyone saying they want the job. Why don't people actually open the game file and start copying the data down. Label the data with which turn you obtained the data and which faction it came from. 
 
As this information is gathered we can see trends appearing, and start theroising what the other factions are up to. 
 
The way I would do it would be two posts per turn, general information gathering, and information gained from the infiltration we get from pacting with the drones. 
 
General - Votes, any special government settings, power graph estimates, who's who listing, listed alliances, credits. 
 
Infiltration specific - go through each of the F2-F8 screens writing down any information on the Drones you think would be useful. 
 
This is alot of work and the task may need to be split up between more than 1 person. 
 
The ones that show they can do this effectively will most likely get the job. 
 
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			July 29, 2003, 10:36
			
			
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			Now it sounds like some real work.     (Unlike the other gov positions ...    )
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
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			July 30, 2003, 01:06
			
			
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			Need to back saves to find trends 
 
2122 
Uni 
Pop:3 Base(3) 
Free Market 
 
CyCon 
Pop:7 Base(3-5) 
Planned 
 
Pirates 
Pop:8 Base(4-6) 
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Drone 
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Free Market 
 
 
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Uni 
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Free Market 
 
CyCon 
Pop:8 Base(3-5) 
Planned 
 
Pirates 
Pop:8 Base(4-6) 
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Drone 
Pop:6 Base(3-6) 
Free Market 
 
 
2124 
 
Uni 
Pop:8  Base(4-6) 
Free Market 
 
CyCon 
Pop:8 Base(4-6) 
Planned 
 
Pirates 
Pop:8 Base(4-6) 
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Drone 
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Free Market 
 
 
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PN 2-2126 
tc 71 
ta 50 
tp 14.4 
 
CentEco, InfoNet, IndBas, AppPhys, IndEcon 
 
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ec 42 
in 13 
ma 0 
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fd 2 MX 77/160 17	1sy 
wb 1 sy 6/16 5 
ls 1 cp 4/24 10	1sc 
lp 1 cp 9/24 5	1sc 
am 1 sy 16/16 0 
 
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			June 23, 2004, 15:04
			
			
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			Did these reports continue? I don't see any but perhaps I missed them?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			June 23, 2004, 15:19
			
			
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			We did have the covert report, but I'm ashamed to say that they are not as complete and continuous as it could be.  We only have one Kody you know.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
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			June 23, 2004, 15:25
			
			
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			June 23, 2004, 15:27
			
			
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			June 24, 2004, 11:05
			
			
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			You know when I first saw the thread title and saw that the first post was by Kody it almost gave me a heart attack, giving the background of the other post Kody made in the public forum.  Then I realize that it was an old thread being bumped up. 
 
I understand Kody your naming of team leaders etc was smartly used as a nudge so they would actually do something, but whenever you put on that control freak hat I just feel that I'm going to faint.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
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			June 24, 2004, 11:14
			
			
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You worry too much. Still doing my best to avoid getting involved in any game play stuff.
 
I had a feeling that naming forum leaders might work. Often humans can't jump up and push the work on someone else fast enough.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			June 24, 2004, 11:18
			
			
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			I know.  I have to say you are right in that.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
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			June 24, 2004, 11:19
			
			
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			Kody, understand one thing very good. I simply cannot take a modrole for the Angel Forum. This matter was already started being discussed among the Angels, thus was grossly premature. 
 
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			June 24, 2004, 11:21
			
			
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			I was mainly kidding with that comment. By the way how are the elections going?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			June 24, 2004, 11:28
			
			
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			Kody's giving you a hard time, Geo.  Deliberately, I'd say.   
 
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			June 24, 2004, 11:39
			
			
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			Pretty good, IMO. But it's the nominee's decision if there is already enough support or not. Attendance is barely half the members list sofar. 
 
HongHu, I don't understand the first paragraph of your most recent PM. Are you thinking that I won't talk about something because you won't talk about something? 
 
And for the above, I don't care for traps on a serious issue, only for how to let things work smoothly.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
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			June 24, 2004, 11:45
			
			
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			Call it whatever you want. I'm currently calling it a nudge.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Come on Geo.  It'll work out smoothly.  Don't be so tense.    
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
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Pretty good, IMO. But it's the nominee's decision if there is already enough support or not. Attendance is barely half the members list sofar.
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