I Challenge You... - Page 4

David Floyd · July 30, 2003, 02:41

50 Cent was around in 1999?

Al B. Sure! · July 30, 2003, 02:43

50 Cent was around in 1995... it takes years before rappers become big... DMX for example was on NYC mixtapes in 88 but didnt get big until exactly ten years later... like everything else, david, things are popular in the cities for years before they are known in mainstream america.

David Floyd · July 30, 2003, 02:48

Hey, I've lived in a city my whole life!

Granted, they were all suburb cities, except for an atrocious year actually INSIDE of Austin, but still

KrazyHorse · July 30, 2003, 17:05

Quote:

Originally posted by monolith94
Walt Whitman. Check him out some time, Albert. Surely you can spend $5 on a small book of his poetry when your peers are spending tons of money on pot, eh?

Walt Whitman sucks my ass.

Leaves of Grass made me want to piss in his grave.

KrazyHorse · July 30, 2003, 17:10

And sonnets traditionally are rhyning, usually with a difficult scheme.

Not to mention that 90% of the sonnets you read will be either Italian or Shakespearian form...

Inverse Icarus · July 30, 2003, 18:53

yo, yo, yo, yo, new york, check it. world wide. unh. ya hear?

yo.
my great gandma was from ghana,
she didn't have a dallah
sittin in a mud hut, puffin marijuana
white man come up an' robbed her
didn't take her sh*t
took her, she didn't wanna.

she got off tha boat, they said welcome to the states
she got kicked in the head by one of the mates
lined up with her brothers n sistahs, in front of the gate
cryin' for her family, cryin' while she waits
whiteys all aroun' her, while they debate
"i'll buy that nigger b*tch" one man dictates.

aaaaand
back in the house, made into a slave
fought for her freedom, whipped to behave
treated like an animal, she was depraved
beaten every night, she was brave
alone in tha world, she couldn't be saved.

the day is over, the white man grins
no one here is punished for their sins
whipped almost nightly, scars on they skins
faith runs out, it now begins
f*ck it, the white man wins.

brought here in a boat, a long time away
our people robbed, led astray
we dealt with it all, come what may
niggas getting lynched, f*cking kkk,
forced for years to simply obey
we don't belong in tha usa.

blacks to africa! back to africa! blacks to africa! back to africa!
... yo.

Inverse Icarus · July 30, 2003, 18:58

and i assure you, if i added some "izzles" in there, i'd be rhymin all up out the heezy.

Inverse Icarus · July 30, 2003, 19:14

yo, yo, yo, yo, bad boys worldwide, shoot up some cops, let's burn western society from the inside out, yo. ya hear me? holla back like you got a pair.

unh, yeah.
yo, ***** i needs me some fubu to wear
i aint got no job, no need to dispair
we gotz a thing in this country called welfare!
we pop out the babies, no need fo' daycare
they grow up on tha street, fo life it prepares
i get paid more fo' each kid, those f*ckers must eb unaware
i'll pop em out till i'm a f*cking mizziliionare!

yo, yo, yo
we don't need no f*cking leader
we're f*cking breeders
sit here smoking weed-errrs
uncle sam wont find us, he aint a mind reader
this kids aint gonna be eager
they can get by being meager

who the f*ck needs sobriety?
we ain't f*cking contributing to society
whitey thinks he's so damn piety
yeah, he better step up on the anxiety
we aint actin with propriety
we're gonna sit here and leech off society.

we aint workin, though we got the means
affirmative action be wasted on trustfund teens
goin to college, who needs that scene
i'll just sit here in my welfare bought jeans
gobblin down burritos made of beans
kids turnin tricks befo' they turn eighteen
know what it is? we got inferior genes.

it's not you, we're born to fail
you try to help us, to no avail
affirmative action will not preveil
we dont give a f*ck, hear that detail?
you're paying us not to work, thats the grail
we're gonna weigh on your country like f*cking whales.

reds4ever · July 30, 2003, 19:36

Cold like a blizzard, on the mic I am a wizard
With these funky fresh rhymes coming out of my gizzard
Never sneezing never coughing I rock the mic often
Hard as a rock and no sign of a soft 'un
Cos' you know I get respect, my rhymes are correct
I lay them out like the plans from an architect

;O)

monolith94 · July 30, 2003, 21:38

"mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
This is a signaturable offense. And I find it interesting that you are such a voice of conservatism in poetry, krazyhorse, as I've always considered you one of the wild men of apolyton.

I should make that into a Burroughs cut-up.

yeeeeah

oh, and nas is rapping about volvos and macs??? sounds like my kind of gent!

Drake Tungsten · July 30, 2003, 21:45

Quote:

This is a signaturable offense.

Nubclear · July 30, 2003, 23:10

Speer, I'm waiting for my story

And on the issue of size: A six paged story is NOT that long

Inverse Icarus · July 30, 2003, 23:15

im still waiting for my black grammy, or whatever you people have.

Pekka · July 31, 2003, 21:20

This is for my fallen friend. RIP my friend, you left us to soon, but you live in our memories forever.

I remember you until the end of days
together life was crazy but every moment we had I praise
I don't know what the **** you thought and what you fought
when you decided it was enough, life too tough, when reality caught
I wake up in the morning and ask myself who messed your head to desperate, I guess I just have to think and wait
until we meet again and drink champagne, catch up and laugh and forget the pain
I guess that's just the way it is, life is like a quiz you never know what's coming
One day you're there and next you're gone, and the angels in the heaven are drumming
waiting for you to come, and represent where you from
the only ease is that you'll have peace, just a little piece, your soul released

Rest in peace my friend, for we send you away
it was your dream to trascend, my friend, but I can't still comprehend
Too many questions left unasked, truth left unmasked

But I guess that's just the way it is, we still have unfinished biz, I never knew
what this would come in to, no clue, I guess it's not about me but you
Some things will never change, it's strange that we can never again exchange what we had
but I'm glad that we had, the good and the bad

Too early too soon, too much rain and pain
and one afternoon, you get the train and do the insane
Now I see you six feet under and I wonder what's up with you
and how you do, and if the rumours are untrue

I try to figure out who to blame, life ain't a game, and I'm looking for a name
who it was that put you to the edge, forever loyalty we pledge
I haven't forgot, and I got my body full of hatred
and I kid you not, I heard what was said
I ain't violent but I'm already, looking for your demons and planning to take them out I'm ready

Your mom is strong you don't have to worry
and we remain strong to the pledge we don't hurry
as we make sure, that we're secure and there ain't no cure for what the guilty ones have to endure
We know what the ****er did to you, revenge overdue,
he's getting something new, from the you know who

After we're done, the heeling has begun and we regret none
of what we did, took out that kid, did the forbid
He had it coming all along, there's not gonna be a song
of him, we're strong, and when I hear the gong I payback the wrong
that you had the go through, me and my crew
together we grew, we never forget the love we knew

Pekka · July 31, 2003, 21:58

So AS, comments? Don't be too aggressive, this is personal thing and based on real life so.. but be critical absolutely! Hey, if you are interested and want to do a real lyrics about it, I can talk to you and tell you the real story that is a ****ing tragedy. That is, if you're out of ideas of lyrics and want to do it, because that would be really nice and I'd appreciate it a lot.

Inverse Icarus · July 31, 2003, 22:06

yeah home chicken! you need to crizzicizzizzize our songs!

Pekka · July 31, 2003, 22:09

Yeah AS, get your ass here and judge us!

But I'm serious about the lyrics thing, it would mean a lot to me if you had the time to make real lyrics as they are in the scene. I guarantee the story is real and it would make a great song, and I think it deserves a song for that matter. But that is only if you have the time and the will, and if you don't, I understand completely.

Al B. Sure! · July 31, 2003, 22:34

you rhymed surprisingly good pekka especially considering english is a second language for you. and a heartfelt topic is always good even if the lyrics are crap but nah you came off better than i thought.

but i got a rule for myself to not make songs about **** i didn't experience and all that (so i won't fall into the usual talking about gang-banging all the time nonsense that aint me) and i did not experience your friend. but why don't you make something? You got basically a rough draft right there. re-organize your thoughts a bit (maybe make your lines all uniform and about 12 syllables for easier flow) and lengthen it a bit and divide it into verses (rap verses are fairly long... you almost never hear rappers spit verses shorter than 16 lines) and then you got the technical **** done and you can concentrate on the topic more and be poetic.

thanks

reds4ever · July 31, 2003, 22:36

I thought I did rather well, old boy!

Pekka · July 31, 2003, 22:40

AS, thanks for comments. I understand you, and I think that makes lots of sense. I don't know what syllables means. I don't know how to make it better, I'm not experineced with this stuff. I think I'd make it better if I'd write down what I want to say, and then start working from there and not just start typing and taking brakes to think what would rhyme with something..

but now that I read I notice that the 'flow' could be better with more words. Some of the stuff ends too quickly.

Al B. Sure! · July 31, 2003, 22:41

no you didn't, young girl

reds4ever · July 31, 2003, 22:42

Quote:

Originally posted by Albert Speer
no you didn't, young girl

who was it then?

Al B. Sure! · July 31, 2003, 22:44

Pekka:

syllables are the sounds you use in words... say these words...

"House" "cat" "dog" those words got one syllable
"brother" "mother" "city" two syllables
"forgotten" "helsinki" three syllables

and why not use Ugric?

Pekka · July 31, 2003, 22:48

ok I understand what syllables are now.
Ugric? You mean I'd do it in my own language?

Al B. Sure! · July 31, 2003, 22:52

i assume you can write in your own language better than you can write in english...

Pekka · July 31, 2003, 22:57

Well naturally. It is especially difficult for me to get the flow right in english. Also vocabulary is limited, and I'll have to go with what rhymes.. with limited vocabulary.
And naturally is more difficult to express myself in foreign langauge so sure... but none of you could understand it if I wrote it in my language!

edit: sleepy time ZzzZZzz

Tuberski · July 31, 2003, 23:04

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Originally posted by Pekka
ok I understand what syllables are now.
Ugric? You mean I'd do it in my own language?

The way I learned syllables in 2nd grade:

take a word, Tuberski for instance, sound it out and every tim you come to a break clap your hands.

Tu(clap) ber(clap) ski(clap)

Three syllables.

At times, I still do it to this day, but only with imaginary claps.

As really clapping would make me look stupid.

ACK!

Al B. Sure! · July 31, 2003, 23:13

i was told to count it on your fingers and i still count syllables on my fingers

Tuberski · July 31, 2003, 23:18

I don't know why we clapped, I think so that it was the whole class participating.

ACK!