Vendetta - Under construction! - Page 12

Art of War · September 9, 2003, 13:52

Shouldn't pollution be a consequence for getting nuke happy?

Also, yeah, I'd give the UFA and Reich about 10 nukes, the Red Empire and Pac Coalition 5, and maybe 1 to the lesser powers.

rmsharpe · September 9, 2003, 14:00

The ring of pollution around a city still appears after I hex edit out the global warming effect.

What would also be interesting, Curt, is that after I do this, you could turn on pollution again, forcing people to build the pollution-decreasing city improvements.

curtsibling · September 9, 2003, 14:32

Rmsharpe, I'll give it a try!

Shall I send you the scn file?
Also, will the byte remain the same after the scn file is resaved?

OK
Let's bring back those nukes!
Changing the message to something cool will be easy.

The latest zip is now uploaded.

The new scn will be in the zip...Please work your hex magic on it!

curtsibling · September 9, 2003, 14:34

The UFA and Reich now have 8 nukes for self defence.
The Red Empire has 4 in stock.

The others have two hidden around the globe.

The GEU may have illegally got some!

curtsibling · September 9, 2003, 14:35

I will update the game text, when rmsharpe hexes the files.

Thanks in advance, old chap!

The global warming is always such a pest.
Nuking the enemy should be fun!

academia · September 9, 2003, 15:56

Excellent upgrade curt

I´m sure this will become one of my favourite scenarios

we have a winner

rmsharpe · September 9, 2003, 16:19

Over the river and through the woods, to grandmother's house we go.

Anyone let me know if it gives you any problems.

It's in a zip file, like the scenario, so it should be able to be opened like normal.

curtsibling · September 9, 2003, 18:33

Thanks, RM!

I'll test this scn, tonight!

jim panse · September 9, 2003, 19:24

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Originally posted by curtsibling
Thanks, RM!

I'll test this scn, tonight!

... can´t wait for this any longer ....

Palaiologos · September 9, 2003, 19:56

Mrsharpe i was wondering...

How hard is this hex editing buissness anyway?

rmsharpe · September 9, 2003, 20:10

Aaaagh! R M S H A R P E! Get it right next time! *

But seriously, it's not that hard, since you're just building off of someone else's work, either a scenario or just a "vanilla" Civ2 .sav file.

* don't freak out too much

Palaiologos · September 9, 2003, 20:24

I take it that i am not the first one to have done the same mistake.Sorry.

Mmmm....Sharpe is obviously your surname.But what does RM stand for?
Reynold,?Ryan?,Roger?,Ronald?
And M? Your middle name?

Just some irregular thoughts. Mind them not.

As for the Hex editing thing i was actually wondering how exactly it is done. I mean, is it some sort of re-programming the Civ2 code?

Is it hard for someone with no programming skills to do it?

curtsibling · September 10, 2003, 02:20

I too have always entertained notions of getting to grips with the CSPL language ...

jim panse · September 10, 2003, 04:10

I will give it a try now! BTW, what´s the 'Banana' tech for?

curtsibling · September 10, 2003, 07:11

A joke!

I couldn't find a reason to use mobile warfare tech, as it's barrack message is already used by gunpowder.

This is when the PAC declare their war.

So I just left it out, and called it 'banana', in a fit of British silliness.

jim panse · September 10, 2003, 09:06

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So I just left it out, and called it 'banana', in a fit of British silliness.

rmsharpe · September 10, 2003, 09:13

I wrote this up yesterday, but got a phone call that prevented me from posting it in full.

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Originally posted by Palaiologos
I take it that i am not the first one to have done the same mistake.Sorry.

No problem at all

Quote:

Mmmm....Sharpe is obviously your surname.But what does RM stand for?
Reynold,?Ryan?,Roger?,Ronald?

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And M? Your middle name?

You guessed it.

Quote:

Just some irregular thoughts. Mind them not.

"What is mind? Never matter. What is matter? Never mind."

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As for the Hex editing thing i was actually wondering how exactly it is done. I mean, is it some sort of re-programming the Civ2 code?

Is it hard for someone with no programming skills to do it?

"Reprogramming" isn't the word, since I'm not changing the program. Rather, I'm changing the data file that the program uses (.scn or .sav) Basically, it's an "alternative" to the scenario editor, which gives you a little more freedom in changing values of things, etc.

A good background knowledge on even elementary languages like HTML can always help in a tight spot, despite the fact that both Civ2 and HTML are about the same things as Hungarian is to Japanese.

Palaiologos · September 10, 2003, 10:14

1.What the hell is this "Banana" joke so often used by the Anglo-Saxons in the Forum?

2.My bro is sort of an expert in HTML and programming.

Is there some special program that allows you to edit the data in the .sav files?

rmsharpe · September 10, 2003, 10:15

I use UltraEdit, but you have to pay or use certain "tools" to make it so that you can use it beyond it's expiration date.

Nilat · September 10, 2003, 13:33

GEU shouldnt have nukes!!! NEVER! If you know what I mean

And Nobody should be allied in the start. I think it would be cool that in a PBEM you could just choose your side.
And anyway it would be wise that nobody should be allied in the beginning. If australia attacks UFA, GEU, Red empire will declare war too!

curtsibling · September 10, 2003, 20:31

Stalin, you make a good point!

For the semi-final zip - I will deactivate all alliances.

I'll see about getting that out tommorow...

Palaiologos · September 10, 2003, 20:37

Stalin has a point there.

Of course that would mean you must eliminate all those techs leading to war, now wouldn't it?.

tanelorn · September 10, 2003, 21:22

I really think that the infantry unit should be mobile, terrorist just dont stay put and wait to be captured...
What about making the corrupt GEU playable?
Make rebel infantry buildable by them.
Want them to have a chance? Give them the unique diplo unit you talked about, as their special unit. They can use them to bribe themselves a small army of sell-swords, dogs of war and defectors, Ex-Nazis, Ex-Reds, Ex-Yankees flying the colours of Benjamin, dying for cash.
And after all that selling the techs they steal but can't use to the highest bidder. (Meaning they can't build any good units themselves but they can bribe enemy garisons in cities and units in the field)

Or perhaps not.

Pericles, I guess it's because "to go bananas"= "ôá ðáéñíù óôçí êñáíá"

curtsibling · September 10, 2003, 22:30

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Originally posted by Palaiologos
Stalin has a point there.

Of course that would mean you must eliminate all those techs leading to war, now wouldn't it?.

Check out the latest zip, Pericles!

curtsibling · September 10, 2003, 22:34

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Originally posted by tanelorn
I really think that the infantry unit should be mobile, terrorist just dont stay put and wait to be captured...
What about making the corrupt GEU playable?
Make rebel infantry buildable by them.
Want them to have a chance? Give them the unique diplo unit you talked about, as their special unit. They can use them to bribe themselves a small army of sell-swords, dogs of war and defectors, Ex-Nazis, Ex-Reds, Ex-Yankees flying the colours of Benjamin, dying for cash.
And after all that selling the techs they steal but can't use to the highest bidder. (Meaning they can't build any good units themselves but they can bribe enemy garisons in cities and units in the field)

The GEU really exist to get a beating from everyone.

The problem with infantry moving is that they get in the way all the time.

I will do a test with a nasty tough infantry, and other things, to see if I can implement a better system for the Vendetta anti-terror war.

A dedicated events-made terrorist unit, and a diplo agent may be fun!

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Originally posted by tanelorn
Pericles, I guess it's because "to go bananas"= "ôá ðáéñíù óôçí êñáíá"

Yes, we have no bananas!

Palaiologos · September 11, 2003, 06:13

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Originally posted by tanelorn
Pericles, I guess it's because "to go bananas"= "ôá ðáéñíù óôçí êñáíá"

Ahh......

That explains a lot now, doesn't it?

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Yes, we have no bananas!

Ðïßïò îÝñåé ôé êáôÜëáâå áõôüò ôþñá...

curtsibling · September 11, 2003, 06:43

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Originally posted by Palaiologos
Ðïßïò îÝñåé ôé êáôÜëáâå áõôüò ôþñá...

I don't know what you are saying, but I assume it is sardonic!

curtsibling · September 11, 2003, 06:44

Calling rmsharpe!

The new zip is up today.

Again, I need your expertise to change that global warming byte!

Since I save the scn file anew, it has reset the value.

Can you help?

Palaiologos · September 11, 2003, 07:02

What!

If you save the scenario anew, hex edting goes away?

Is this certain?

P.S Curt, one of the superb advantages of the Greek language is that it has a unique alphabet and therefore is completely incomprehensible to westerners!

rmsharpe · September 11, 2003, 11:09

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Originally posted by curtsibling
Calling rmsharpe!

The new zip is up today.

Again, I need your expertise to change that global warming byte!

Since I save the scn file anew, it has reset the value.

Can you help?

It'll be up in a second!