French Agents surrender in Brazil

Shi Huangdi · July 30, 2003, 13:05

Article is from www.thetimes.co.uk To find the article, do a search for "Brazil" on their website. Looks like France has gotten herself into a bit of an embaressing situation

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Fury as jungle rescue turns to French farce
From Adam Sage in Paris

A BUNGLED secret French attempt to rescue a Colombian politician held hostage in the Amazon jungle has enraged the governments of Brazil and Colombia and embarrassed President Chirac.
The bid to rescue Ingrid Betancourt, a former Colombian presidential candididate who has dual French-Colombian nationality, was ordered by Dominique de Villepin, the French Foreign Minister. Señora Betancourt is one of his former students.

The operation ended in fiasco, with French undercover agents arrested by Brazilian police and M de Villepin accused of a cavalier approach that has set back hopes of Señora Betancourt’s release.

M de Villepin denied that he had been engaged in discussions on a deal with the terrorists who kidnapped the Colombian senator. His statements have been greeted with scepticism, however, by commentators who recall how M Chirac’s Government negotiated to free French hostages in Lebanon in the 1980s while denying that it was doing so. The affair has also sparked a diplomatic row with Colombia and Brazil.

The Foreign Minister failed to inform either country of his decision to send a French military aircraft to the Colombian-Brazilian border earlier this month. M Chirac also appears to have been unaware of the mission, as was Jean-Pierre Raffarin, the Prime Minister, M Chirac and M Raffarin issued a series of rapidly retracted denials when the affair came to light in France this weekend. “This sort of operation would not have happened without me being informed, and I was not informed,” M Chirac said, before being shown a photograph of the French aircraft on the tarmac in Brazil.

Señora Betancourt, 41, a former beauty queen who was dubbed Colombia’s Joan of Arc after launching a campaign against political corruption, was kidnapped by the Colombian Revolutionary Armed Forces (Farc), the left-wing terrorist movement, in February 2002. She had been running as the Green party candidate in the presidential election that took place three months later.

She is among the best-known of around 3,000 hostages being held by Farc guerrillas and her cause was taken up by M de Villepin when he became Foreign Minister in May 2002. Señora Betancourt has a French passport from her first marriage and was taught by M de Villepin at the Institute of Political Studies in Paris 20 years ago. The two have been close friends since.

The minister said that he was contacted by Señora Betancourt’s sister, Astrid, on July 8 to say that Farc was prepared to release her in São Paulo de Olivença, in the Amazon jungle. M de Villepin says that he immediately sent a Hercules aircraft to Manaus, on the Brazilian side of the border, to collect her if she was freed. He says that the team on board consisted only of doctors. However, his version has been undermined by evidence that intelligence agents also travelled to Manaus.

The French Foreign Ministry told its Brazilian counterparts that the aircraft was simply stopping to refuel on its way to French Guyana. But the Brazilians became suspicious since this involved a 620-mile (1,000km) detour and sent police to inspect the aircraft. They were refused access by French officials claiming diplomatic immunity.

By this time four of the French team had flown on in a private air taxi to São Paulo de Olivença, where they were arrested by Brazilian police officers who took them for drug-traffickers. Held for four hours, the French agents refused to answer questions, agreeing only to give their address. It was the headquarters in Paris of the Direction Générale de la Sécurité Extérieure, the French equivalent of MI6.

The Brazilian authorities were infuriated at what they saw as French interference in their affairs. Celso Amorim, Brazil’s Foreign Affairs Minister, said: “As soon as we understood what was the object of this mission, and, among other reasons, because we had not been consulted — which stopped us from consulting the Colombian Government — we asked the plane to leave Brazil.”

Bogotá was also angry at being kept in the dark. “We want these events to be cleared up,” Francisco Santos, the Vice-President, said.

Colombian sources say that if Farc failed to free Señora Betancourt, it was because the terrorists had backtracked at the sight of Brazilian police officers in the jungle searching for the “drug-dealers” who turned out to be French spies.

One Brazilian newspaper said that the Hercules C130 had contained weapons for Farc in exchange for the hostage. Another said that M de Villepin had offered to bring Raul Reyes, the Farc second-in-command, to France for treatment for prostate cancer. Both reports have been denied by the French minister.

Sava · July 30, 2003, 13:07

The same people who will bash France on this matter are the same ones that would defend the US, had they done the same thing.

DanS · July 30, 2003, 13:21

I read about this story a couple of days ago, but I continue to be stumped about this. It's a tangled web containing lots of data points that doesn't make much sense in total. Maybe it's just as stupid as it sounds?

DinoDoc · July 30, 2003, 13:26

I honestly wasn't aware that a French Foreign Minister had such control over the French Armed Services to such an extent that he could unilaterally order a military strike without informing the President or Prime Minister.

Sava · July 30, 2003, 13:28

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order a military strike

or a rescue mission... stop distorting things.

pchang · July 30, 2003, 13:28

I won't bash them for trying, but I will bash them for failing so miserably.

Sava · July 30, 2003, 13:29

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I won't bash them for trying, but I will bash them for failing so miserably.

I got no problem with that.

Az · July 30, 2003, 13:34

Mossad lesson No.1 : It's not a crime if you don't get caught.

Mossad lesson No.2 : If you get caught, it creates a FUBAR situation.

BeBro · July 30, 2003, 13:37

How many Mossad lessons exist? They remind me somehow on the Ferenghi rules for profit

Sava · July 30, 2003, 13:38

I like the Mossad... can we buy it from you guys, Azazel?

Richelieu · July 30, 2003, 13:38

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Señora Betancourt, 41, a former beauty queen who was dubbed Colombia’s Joan of Arc after launching a campaign against political corruption, was kidnapped by the Colombian Revolutionary Armed Forces (Farc), the left-wing terrorist movement, in February 2002. She had been running as the Green party candidate in the presidential election that took place three months later.

My bet is the French secret services were actually trying to sabotage her release.

BeBro · July 30, 2003, 13:39

<---- Mossad undercover smiley

Defiant · July 30, 2003, 13:47

Since Sava rules are in the extreme minority, I'm going to bash the French, "GOOD THING THEY DIDN'T HELP US IN THE IRAQ WAR, WE COULD HAVE LOST IN 30 DAYS".

Az · July 30, 2003, 13:48

I can't tell you that, guys.

It's classified.

Arrian · July 30, 2003, 13:54

Sounds like a giant cluster**** to me.

And FARC really sound like bastards, from what I've heard.

-Arrian

GePap · July 30, 2003, 15:03

Seem Villepin took it personal that a former student of his was held hostage (the ex-eauty queen part may have also had some little thing to do with it...) and took a rather, well, undiplomatic action.

Az · July 30, 2003, 15:06

Maybe he was doing her at some point.

GePap · July 30, 2003, 15:06

He is French, no?

Az · July 30, 2003, 15:12

Which stereotype do you imply?
a)they're passionate lovers that like to screw around.
b)they're all gay.
c) both.

GePap · July 30, 2003, 15:14

a).. How would b) apply at this point? I don;t know many gays who pine for beauty queens (female versions).

DinoDoc · July 30, 2003, 15:18

Can anyone tell me how de Villepin was able to move military assets around without informing at least Raffarin about it?

Az · July 30, 2003, 15:25

I can see that, GePap. Thanks.

BeBro · July 30, 2003, 15:35

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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Can anyone tell me how de Villepin was able to move military assets around without informing at least Raffarin about it?

They all knew it, Chirac too, but someone has to be sacrificed in public, and that can´t be Chirac

BeBro · July 30, 2003, 15:37

Fortunately they didn´t try to blow up something like a Greenpeace ship this time.

Ecthy · July 30, 2003, 15:44

what is FUBAR?

Arrian · July 30, 2003, 16:06

F'd up beyond all repair.

-Arrian

GePap · July 30, 2003, 16:31

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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Can anyone tell me how de Villepin was able to move military assets around without informing at least Raffarin about it?

Why woundn't a high ranking cabinet member who makes foreign policy be able to move one hercules transport?

DinoDoc · July 30, 2003, 16:36

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Originally posted by GePap

Why woundn't a high ranking cabinet member who makes foreign policy be able to move one hercules transport?

... filled with "undercover agents" while crossing the airspace of two countries without their permission.

Ned · July 30, 2003, 16:46

Does the name Oliver North come to mind?

GePap · July 30, 2003, 16:57

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Originally posted by DinoDoc
... filled with "undercover agents" while crossing the airspace of two countries without their permission.

The agents aren't military. As for the whole border crossing, it is illegal no matter who says go.