July 30, 2003, 17:02
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I don't even know what to say about this... I mean, they were trying to rescue a woman from terrorists... so I really can't get very upset about that...
but they violated Brazilian sovereignty in trying... I don't know whether to be thrilled our boys caught them, or dismayed that she wasn't saved... 
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July 30, 2003, 17:19
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Why not be both? 
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July 30, 2003, 17:59
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It appears that everyone here, from the FARC and the Colombians to the French and the Brazilians, suffered from a severe lack of communication (in other words: to a degree, they may all be a bunch of liars).
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July 30, 2003, 18:46
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Originally posted by Arrian
F'd up beyond all repair.
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Actually it's F'ed up beyond all recognition I thought. 
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July 30, 2003, 18:52
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Originally posted by BustaMike
Actually it's F'ed up beyond all recognition I thought.
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FUBARized: Fouled up beyond all recognition.
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July 30, 2003, 18:55
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Do you guys remember that scene in Saving Private Ryan where they wouldn't tell that new guy what FUBAR meant?
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July 30, 2003, 19:45
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It's German
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July 30, 2003, 19:57
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Why didn't they simply carry out some secret talks with Brazil and Columbia to get her out. I can't imagine they would say no to a rescue mission from terrorists. Or would they?
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July 31, 2003, 02:01
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Originally posted by Sava
The same people who will bash France on this matter are the same ones that would defend the US, had they done the same thing. 
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And vis-versa.
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July 31, 2003, 02:04
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French should of consulted at least Colombia.
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July 31, 2003, 02:36
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July 31, 2003, 10:50
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Hmmm... Mirriam Webster has snafu, but not fubar.
Tassadar: You have to admit that this is particularly clumsy...
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July 31, 2003, 11:10
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Does the dictionary spell out what snafu stands for?
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July 31, 2003, 11:27
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Yep...
Main Entry: 1sna·fu
Pronunciation: sna-'fü, 'sna-"fü
Function: noun
Etymology: situation normal all fvcked up (fouled up)
Date: circa 1941
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I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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July 31, 2003, 11:29
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Ah... Webster's... if you're ever looking for a good time... consult the dictionary!
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I truly believe that America is the world's second chance. I only hope we get a third...
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July 31, 2003, 16:05
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lame lame lame
Their cover story was the worst I have ever heard. They could at least have tried to come up with something reasonable for why they would need a transport plane in the area on short notice. Then, they should have used this "emergency" to make urgent requests to Columbia or Brazil for flight permission and/or cooperation.
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July 31, 2003, 16:17
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FUBAR is German???
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July 31, 2003, 16:18
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I take it you never saw Saving Private Ryan, Ect?
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July 31, 2003, 16:19
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Dang, thoses froggies did not have to go all the way to the Amazon to surrender, they could have done so much closer to home and in more comfort, say in Andorra.
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July 31, 2003, 16:20
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ah, it's their answer, I see
and what does it mean in effect? does it relate to a messed up situation or a dead person?
(fouled up to all recognition that is)
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July 31, 2003, 16:21
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Fouled Up Beyond All Recognition..
and it means whatever you like it to mean.. person, place, thing, event...
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July 31, 2003, 16:23
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where does it come from?
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July 31, 2003, 18:55
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Originally posted by BeBro
 They all knew it, Chirac too, but someone has to be sacrificed in public, and that can´t be Chirac
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This wouldn't be the first time. Back in the good ol' times (the 1995's), the Justice minister was sacrificed by Chirac: one of Chirac many crookeries was investigated by a new judge, and the Justice minister sent an expedition to take back the old judge taking a vacation at the Himalayas 
Chirac's blunders are the last hope of French humour
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July 31, 2003, 19:01
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Can anyone tell me how de Villepin was able to move military assets around without informing at least Raffarin about it?
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IIRC, French intelligence can get orders from the Defense and the Foreign minister (and I guess from the President as well). His decision was stupid, but I don't think it went further than Villepîn's abilities.
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July 31, 2003, 22:09
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Originally posted by Dom Pedro II
I take it you never saw Saving Private Ryan, Ect?
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The funny thing is that the explanation of FUBAR is the only line said in English in the German (dubbed) version of Saving Private Ryan. AFAIK it was "F***ed up beyond all recognition", although it is quite a long time since I saw the movie
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July 31, 2003, 22:18
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So in the German version, everyone speaks German...how subtle.
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July 31, 2003, 22:20
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Well, they dub all movies (and tv stuff too) here - sometimes quite badly. Of course on DVD you can have several languages but in the cinema all movies (wirh some exceptions) are generally in German.
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July 31, 2003, 22:22
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When in Vienna my class went to see an Italian movie based on the Gospel of Luke (from the 1950's, black and white, faithfull to the text), but of course dubbed...
Man, hearing Jesus make his big, rousing speeches in german was hillarious.
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July 31, 2003, 22:25
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It is especially funny in some movies - eg. in Gladiator all spoke German - except the Germans in the beginning
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August 1, 2003, 06:53
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In the German dub Taxi 1, everybody speaks German... And the German villains (who weren't dubbed) are the worst at it
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