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July 30, 2003, 22:15
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Warlord
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HP's Unix beats Windows in server test
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HAVE A DAY.
<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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July 30, 2003, 22:24
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King
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Where has Asher been? 
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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July 30, 2003, 22:26
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Prince
Local Time: 23:40
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GO UNIX!!! GO UNIX!!! GO UNIX!!!
Did you use the banana tag in the poll?
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American by birth, smarter than the average tropical fruit by the grace of Me. -me
I try not to break the rules but merely to test their elasticity. -- Bill Veeck | Don't listed to the Linux Satanist, people. - St. Leo | If patching security holes was the top priority of any of us(no matter the OS), we'd do nothing else. - Me, in a tired and accidental attempt to draw fire from all three sides.
Posted with Mozilla Firebird running under Sawfish on a Slackware Linux install.:p
XGalaga.
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July 30, 2003, 22:33
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President of the OT
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It had better outperform the Windows box, it costs over near two million dollars more!
Go Unix, Go Unix. 
The sad state of your troll says more for your desperation than anything else.
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"I'll never doubt you again when it comes to hockey, [Prince] Asher." - Guynemer
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July 30, 2003, 22:36
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President of the OT
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All this shows is Unix is far less economical...
Windows Price/tpmC: $7.16 US
Unix: $8.28 US
It's also not exactly a fair comparison:
The Unix machine had 55 client computers to help it, the Windows machine had 32.
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"I'll never doubt you again when it comes to hockey, [Prince] Asher." - Guynemer
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July 30, 2003, 23:04
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King
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Everyone knows *nix is better for servers.
That doesn't mean it's better for everything.
For example, I'm willing to bet that less than 5% of America knows what Unix is. Windows still is better for the millions of computer-illiterate Americans.
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meet the new boss, same as the old boss
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July 30, 2003, 23:09
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I'm willing to bet that if Windows MYSTERIOUSLY disappeared from my computer and was replaced by Unix,
1: I wouldn't be able to get on.
2: Even if I were able to, all my programs would cease to work
3: I'd have to format and install Windows again.
 Very bad troll.
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July 30, 2003, 23:16
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Prince
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That is because you were trained to use windoze and only windoze. windoze users are trained to be able to use windoze and nothing else. If they are forced to use something else they are completely helpless. If windoze ever dies then windoze users will be **** out of luck. If Unix dies, Unix users will adapt quickly.
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American by birth, smarter than the average tropical fruit by the grace of Me. -me
I try not to break the rules but merely to test their elasticity. -- Bill Veeck | Don't listed to the Linux Satanist, people. - St. Leo | If patching security holes was the top priority of any of us(no matter the OS), we'd do nothing else. - Me, in a tired and accidental attempt to draw fire from all three sides.
Posted with Mozilla Firebird running under Sawfish on a Slackware Linux install.:p
XGalaga.
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July 30, 2003, 23:17
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King
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geeslaka, you are not aware of the fact that a good 95% of America is simply a bunch of morons. Could you train a gorilla to use Unix?
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meet the new boss, same as the old boss
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July 30, 2003, 23:22
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Americans train grunts to use very advanced weaponry all the time.
You could train a gorilla to use Unix.
Having a gorilla teach itself to use Unix is another thing, however.
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I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).
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July 30, 2003, 23:47
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Prince
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On the contrary mrmitchell, I am made painfully aware of it in my computer science class every school day.
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American by birth, smarter than the average tropical fruit by the grace of Me. -me
I try not to break the rules but merely to test their elasticity. -- Bill Veeck | Don't listed to the Linux Satanist, people. - St. Leo | If patching security holes was the top priority of any of us(no matter the OS), we'd do nothing else. - Me, in a tired and accidental attempt to draw fire from all three sides.
Posted with Mozilla Firebird running under Sawfish on a Slackware Linux install.:p
XGalaga.
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July 31, 2003, 01:15
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Emperor
Local Time: 02:40
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Join Date: Jul 1999
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I refuse to believe that HP makes any product that is any good. My current laptop, which I bought from them broke after less than 6 months of use and had to be sent away for repairs.
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"The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
-Joan Robinson
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July 31, 2003, 05:13
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Emperor
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July 31, 2003, 08:02
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King
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--"The Unix machine had 55 client computers to help it, the Windows machine had 32."
The clients don't "help" the server, they put load on it...
Wraith
"Hello. My $NAME is ~inigo-montoya. You killed my process. Prepare to vi."
-- The Unix's Bride
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July 31, 2003, 08:56
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President of the OT
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The clients don't "help" the server, they put load on it...
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They feed the server, and if you can feed the server faster, it can probably do more.
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"I'll never doubt you again when it comes to hockey, [Prince] Asher." - Guynemer
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July 31, 2003, 10:40
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Emperor
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 troll! fun fun fun
asereje ja deje
dejebe tu dejebe
deseri iowa a mavy
an de bugui an de guidibidi
a sereje ja deje
dejebe tu dejebe
deseri iowa a mavy
an de bugui an de guidibidi
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July 31, 2003, 12:25
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Warlord
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Blah blah blah. Whatever.
It's just a news article. Get over it! 
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HAVE A DAY.
<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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July 31, 2003, 12:40
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President of the OT
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Exactly, Cloud9.
It's a news article that shows Unix is more expensive, and when coupled with more clients to feed information to the server faster, it'll do more.
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"I'll never doubt you again when it comes to hockey, [Prince] Asher." - Guynemer
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July 31, 2003, 18:41
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King
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--"They feed the server, and if you can feed the server faster, it can probably do more."
You don't understand what they're doing, do you? Sorry, but the number of terminals used is one of the factors they control. Higher end systems are required by the benchmark to use more terminals.
I'm not sure you're too clear on how database loads work out, either. A small number of clients can put a full read load on the database if you choose the calls carefully. Writing to the database is likely to hit a wall long before the read will, so even fewer clients are required. This benchmark, however, is modeled on a real-world situation. Their simulation is write-heavy, which means the number of clients is going to quickly become irrelevant as the disk i/o on the server becomes the limiting factor.
Wraith
"Very Educational!"
-- Kintaro Oe ("Golden Boy")
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August 2, 2003, 12:01
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Deity
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/me laughs hysterically at Glonkie's proud display of ignorance.
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(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."
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August 2, 2003, 12:39
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Deity
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Who's glonkie?
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[Obama] is either a troll or has no ****ing clue how government works - GePap
Later amendments to the Constitution don't supersede earlier amendments - GePap
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August 2, 2003, 12:46
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Emperor
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Asher
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If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.
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August 2, 2003, 12:55
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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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"My daddy can beat up your daddy!"
"No, my daddy can beat up your daddy!!!"
"Can not!"
"Can too!"
"Can not!"
"Can too!"
"Can not!"
"Can too!"
"Can not!"
"Can too!"
"Poopoo head!"
"Teacher! He called me a bad name!"
That's about how you guys sound with these trolls.
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Bush-Cheney 2008. What's another amendment between friends?
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When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all.
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August 2, 2003, 12:56
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Deity
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Yeah, but my daddy really can beat up his daddy!
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[Obama] is either a troll or has no ****ing clue how government works - GePap
Later amendments to the Constitution don't supersede earlier amendments - GePap
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August 2, 2003, 13:14
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Emperor
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Can not!
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If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.
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August 2, 2003, 16:20
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Warlord
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MTG, skywalker, Frustrated Poet: You guys really crack me up!
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HAVE A DAY.
<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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August 2, 2003, 18:29
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Warlord
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Clients have to nothing to contribute to the server performance. Maybe Asher is confusing the number of processors in the system with clients? A 32-way system means it has 32 processors, not 32 clients.
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August 2, 2003, 21:50
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Warlord
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Clients have to nothing to contribute to the server performance. Maybe Asher is confusing the number of processors in the system with clients? A 32-way system means it has 32 processors, not 32 clients.
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No, not 32 processors. There were 32 clients on the Windows system, yes, but each client had 2 processors each, which makes it 64 processors total. But if you look at the Unix system you will notice that it has 55 clients, but only 1 processor for each system for a total of only 55 processors.
Hope this clears things up.
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HAVE A DAY.
<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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August 2, 2003, 23:45
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Warlord
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What are you talking about? The comparison is about HP Superdome running 2 different OSes. The processor is Madison and there are 64 of them in the system, which is the standard configuration for a Superdome server.
Besides, you showed that you absolutely don't understand how Superdome is put together. A 64-way Superdome is made up of 2 racks(boxes), each rack has 8 cellboards, and each cellboard has 4 processors and 1 chipset. All cellboards are connected through something called "backplane".
It doesn't surprise me that Superdome is better customized to run HP Unix because its chipsets have their roots from the old PA age. In addition, Superdome is still compatible to the HP PA processors as the new PA8800 will have the same bus as Madison.
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