Sexual Assault and False Accusations

chequita guevara · August 2, 2003, 20:15

So, let's do a little survey, shall we? For some reason, false accusations of sexual assault really seem to worry a lot of people here.

Wonder why?

Why the great consternation? Does it really happen all that often? How about compared to sexual assault?

For this poll, consensual statutory rape will not be considered sexual assault. Mollestation, exposure, fondling, failed rape attempts, will all be considered, however.

edit: For false accusations of rape, only report those accusations that are taken to authorities (school, police, the media, etc.).

Kuciwalker · August 2, 2003, 20:26

Do you really think 20-30 people is an adequate sample size? Plus, do you think some people would really vote "I've falsely accused people of sexual assault"?

You also forgot :banana:

You also forgot "I've never done any of this or had any of this done to me, nor has anyone I know".

chequita guevara · August 2, 2003, 20:26

I know of at least eight women, off the top of my head who were raped, one of who has been raped multiple times.

One of my friends, I just found out, was falsely accused of rape.

I also know three guys who were accused of rape, whom I believe actually did it.

chequita guevara · August 2, 2003, 20:32

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Originally posted by skywalker
Do you really think 20-30 people is an adequate sample size? Plus, do you think some people would really vote "I've falsely accused people of sexual assault"?

You also forgot :banana:

You also forgot "I've never done any of this or had any of this done to me, nor has anyone I know".

There simply isn't enough room for all of the choices. I also would have liked to have put in, I know a rapist.

I do think that the people in the OT are enough of a cross section of society to see if there is a trend that bears investigation. Rape awareness groups claim that one out of every four women has been raped. I know quite a few women from all walks of life who have been raped, one who was almost murdered by her rapist (which happened while I was living in a small town).

I also know one guy who was gang-raped, by other guys.

SlowwHand · August 2, 2003, 20:43

No "I've not assaulted, nor have I known anyone" option ?
Bleak.

Inverse Icarus · August 2, 2003, 20:46

i know a guy who was accused of sexual assault, but i can't say if it was false or not, as i wasn't there.

the girl dropped the issue (it never became a case), so i assume it was false. what should i vote?

mrmitchell · August 2, 2003, 20:47

Isn't "I have never raped anyone" the biggest option? Why is it not there?

chequita guevara · August 2, 2003, 20:48

Because there are only 16 spots. Anyway, every option but two is an "I didn't sexually assault someone."

chequita guevara · August 2, 2003, 20:49

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Originally posted by Uber KruX
i know a guy who was accused of sexual assault, but i can't say if it was false or not, as i wasn't there.

the girl dropped the issue (it never became a case), so i assume it was false. what should i vote?

If it didn't go to the authorities, then don't mark it.

Inverse Icarus · August 2, 2003, 22:10

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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Because there are only 16 spots. Anyway, every option but two is an "I didn't sexually assault someone."

you lying commie scum make the rest of us commie scum look bad. there are 24 options max.

Boris Godunov · August 2, 2003, 22:17

I like how che spelled "assault" at least three different ways in the poll options.

Anyway, I'm male, I've never sexually assaulted anyone, I've never been accused of it. I can think of one female acquaintance of mine who was raped. I had an acquaintance in college who was accused of raping a girl. He was cleared of the charges, but from other things I've heard of him and what I've seen, I could still see him being guilty. Nontheless, I voted he was falsely accused, since that's the official version.

mrmitchell · August 2, 2003, 22:17

A yarn feminists use about rape is that "Rape is the number one unreported crime."

Thus, I ask them: Then how do you know?

Pekka · August 2, 2003, 22:18

Haven't assaulted, haven't been falsely accused. Though I could almost claim that I was sexually assaulted once.

I'm guilty and multiple offender of indicent exposure by streaking, but never punished for it.

Kuciwalker · August 2, 2003, 22:21

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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
There simply isn't enough room for all of the choices. I also would have liked to have put in, I know a rapist.

You can have up to TWENTY-FOUR choices. You haven't used them up.

Dr Strangelove · August 2, 2003, 22:21

I don't want to talk about it.

Agathon · August 2, 2003, 22:24

I once sexually assaulted someone.

My girlfriend rang up and said, "I'm bored and horny, why don't you come around here and sexually assault me?"

So I did.

Then she assaulted me back.

It was a beautiful day....

Kuciwalker · August 2, 2003, 22:24

@ Agathon

Dr Strangelove · August 2, 2003, 22:33

Quote:

Originally posted by Agathon
I once sexually assaulted someone.

My girlfriend rang up and said, "I'm bored and horny, why don't you come around here and sexually assault me?"

So I did.

Then she assaulted me back.

It was a beautiful day....

Gotcha now! You're under arrest!

mrmitchell · August 2, 2003, 22:35

No harm, no foul.

Agathon · August 2, 2003, 22:35

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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove

Gotcha now! You're under arrest!

On a more serious note, I do know a close family friend who was raped. I know who did it too, and if I ever see him, I'm going to smash the crap out of him.

Kuciwalker · August 2, 2003, 22:39

to that too.

Despite che's opinion, I don't support rapists

chequita guevara · August 2, 2003, 23:27

Quote:

Originally posted by skywalker

Quote:

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
There simply isn't enough room for all of the choices. I also would have liked to have put in, I know a rapist.

You can have up to TWENTY-FOUR choices. You haven't used them up.

Aw nuts!

Velociryx · August 2, 2003, 23:32

Never done it, don't have plans for it on my calendar, and don't know anybody either way (raped or falsely accused).

I DO know that as a person interested in equal rights (and for Che's benefit, let me say that I mean equal rights, period--sorry, still not a feminist), I am interested in seeing tough punishments doled out for women who accuse men of this crime falsely.

Why?

Because unlike other crimes where you're innocent till proven guilty, it don't work that way with rape.

Once the media gets ahold of the "R" word, you did it, period.

If the courts later find you not guilty, then it was because you had a good lawyer, not because you were really innocent.

And that stain don't go away.

-=Vel=-

chequita guevara · August 2, 2003, 23:33

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Originally posted by mrmitchell
A yarn feminists use about rape is that "Rape is the number one unreported crime."

Thus, I ask them: Then how do you know?

It depends on how it is defined, I suppose. Here is how they find out how large a problem rape being unreported, however. Doctors and counselors (social workers and psychiatrists) keep statistics. As well, various studies ask women a number of different questions trying to find out whether they've been sexually assaulted, such as, have you ever been forced to have sex, have you ever had sex when you said you didn't want to, etc. Since rape and sexual assault have a stigma attatched, often times people will not admit to themselves or others that they had been raped, but they will say they were forced to have sex. By finding out how many of these women reported their attacks to the police, they can infer back the number that go unreported. It's a very large percentage.

Velociryx · August 2, 2003, 23:36

I took a survey once where they asked the question "how many times can you have sex in a 48 hour period?"

I answered, 20+ (the highest answer on the list).

I'll bet a lot of guys did.

-=Vel=-

Sava · August 2, 2003, 23:40

I'm male and have known 3 girls who have been sexually assaulted or raped... all by their "boyfriends".

Velociryx · August 2, 2003, 23:41

PS: If a woman has sex when she doesn't really want to, it's not rape unless she makes that desire known, true?

If a woman has sex when she has a mild headache, she may well answer the "have you ever had sex when you didn't really want to" question in the affirmative.

That ain't rape tho.

-=Vel=-

Agathon · August 2, 2003, 23:42

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Originally posted by Velociryx
I took a survey once where they asked the question "how many times can you have sex in a 48 hour period?"

I answered, 20+ (the highest answer on the list).

I'll bet a lot of guys did.

-=Vel=-

You think that's funny?

My Dad once had a white South African doctor. He asked him what his experience of apartheid was.

The Doctor said that he hadn't had many black patients but the ones he had, had convinced him that they lived in a different world.

One guy came in complaining about his potency, "Doc", he said, "I'm having trouble getting it up to have sex with my wife and I'm worried about it".

"Hmmm...", said the doctor, "men of your age commonly experience impotence. What exactly is happening?"

"Well", said the man with a completely straight face, "I can only do it six times a day now."

What can you say to that?

Velociryx · August 2, 2003, 23:44

-=Vel=-

(and I say, good for him!)

/me wishes there were more hours in a day....*sigh*

chequita guevara · August 2, 2003, 23:45

Why is it in threads about rape people post jokes about sex?