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Elves attack California
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Officials Suspect Terror in Calif. Fire
Officials Suspect Environmentalists Set San Diego Apartment Fire That Caused Millions in Damage
The Associated Press
SAN DIEGO Aug. 2 —
Officials suspect radical environmentalists set a fire that swept through an unoccupied five-story apartment complex, causing more than $20 million in damage.
A banner reading "If you build it, we will burn it," with the initials "ELF," was found Friday next to the burning building still under construction in the upscale University Town Centre residential neighborhood. No injuries were reported.
The initials may correspond to the Earth Liberation Front, a loose-knit group that describes itself as "an international underground organization that uses direct action in the form of economic sabotage to stop the destruction of the natural environment."
Members of ELF have claimed responsibility for dozens of fires and other acts since 1997, causing $50 million in damages to luxury homes, ski lodges and sport utility vehicles. There was no immediate claim of responsibility posted on the group's Web site.
The group, which only communicates with the press by e-mail, issued a brief and vague statement in response to media inquiries:
"The ELF press office has received no communique for the San Diego fire that took place Aug. 1, 2003, and thus cannot answer any questions as to why this location and city was chosen for the latest ELF action," the statement said. "The banner at the site reading `You build it we burn it ELF' is a legitimate claim of responsibility by the Earth Liberation Front."
San Diego police, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and arson experts were investigating.
Capt. Jeff Carle, of the San Diego Fire Department, said three construction workers who were sleeping on the site managed to escape the flames unharmed.
"It could have killed someone," said Carle.
Several hundred residents of a building next to the construction site were evacuated as heat from the blaze broke windows and melted plastic blinds in their homes.
The 206-unit complex was part of a larger project approved by the City Council in late 2000 that included a hotel and offices. University Towne Centre is a rapidly growing area of apartment complexes and office buildings east of San Diego's tony La Jolla section.
Carle said if environmentalists were behind the fire, he didn't understand their motivation: More trees would be cut down to rebuild the structure.
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How exactly is setting fires enviromentally friendly?
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August 2, 2003, 21:59
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Because our need for wanton destruction as a jackoff aid for what tough anarchowarriors we are against the ecoraping multinational capitalistic imperialist whatever is more important.
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August 2, 2003, 22:12
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Oh poo to you guys. 
I think it's great when they smash SUVs. Those things are a menace and should be banned.
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August 2, 2003, 22:15
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What is it that people have against elves? They've never hurt anyone. Hell, they make presents for Santa even.
Discrimination, even if on height, is illegal. 
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August 2, 2003, 22:16
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Originally posted by Agathon
Oh poo to you guys.
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 Whoa, lay off the personal insults!!!
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August 2, 2003, 22:21
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Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Whoa, lay off the personal insults!!!
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I'm sorry, I should really stop using such over the top and disgracefully foul language. 
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August 2, 2003, 22:21
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Re: Elves attack California
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
How exactly is setting fires enviromentally friendly?
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Presumably, if they picked their objectives well, they would destroy something that over its lifetime is worse for the environment than the fire. For some reason, they do not seem to be capable of being more than a nuissance.
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August 2, 2003, 22:25
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Re: Re: Elves attack California
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Originally posted by Victor Galis
For some reason, they do not seem to be capable of being more than a nuissance.
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I think putting lives at risk puts them slightly above the level of nuissance.
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August 2, 2003, 22:25
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Originally posted by Agathon
I'm sorry, I should really stop using such over the top and disgracefully foul language.
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Yes, bad boy! Now go sit in the corner, your not having any supper tonight! 
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August 2, 2003, 22:26
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That means 99% of Americans are more than a nuisance.
You're putting lives at risk every day. Admit it!
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August 2, 2003, 22:28
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Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Yes, bad boy! Now go sit in the corner, your not having any supper tonight!
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Are you going to spank me? 
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August 2, 2003, 22:29
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You know, in france they have something like the Society for the Liberation of Garden Gnomes or something like that. Basically, they take the cardboard Santa's out of people's yards and set them free  they think the things are alive 
There's one in Australia too
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August 2, 2003, 22:31
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In Canada people put up tableaux of Mary, Joseph, the 3 Wise Men and various sheep in their front yard at Xmas.
If people did that in NZ, they would wake up to find the figures rearranged into obscene positions.
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August 2, 2003, 22:32
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Originally posted by mrmitchell
You're putting lives at risk every day. Admit it!
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I don't regularly set fires forcing the evacuation of hundreds of people. 
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August 2, 2003, 22:33
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Officials suspect radical environmentalists set a fire that swept through an unoccupied five-story apartment complex, causing more than $20 million
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August 2, 2003, 22:34
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D'oh. Noticed later the surrounding area evacuation
Disregard both posts. 
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August 2, 2003, 22:34
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Keep reading mrmitchell.
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August 2, 2003, 22:36
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You see my "I made a mistake" post now?
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August 2, 2003, 23:14
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Re: Elves attack California
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
How exactly is setting fires enviromentally friendly?
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Well, certain coniferous trees require forest fires to release their seeds and start a new generation.
I sincerely doubt that the fire in this case was necessary, but it's somewhat of a blanket statement to say that fires aren't environmentally friendly.
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August 2, 2003, 23:43
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 Their point is to try and stop new construction. They did a Law & Order episode about it.
Fire is an extremely dangerous weapon and is highly unpredictable. It is so easy for them to get out of control and hurt people and other living things.
Maybe I should start a leftist group called People First!
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August 3, 2003, 00:20
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The People Liberation Front is willing to use direct action to set these pro-Earth people straight, or on fire, whichever.
Remember folks, once we wear out this planet we can just move on to the next one.
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August 3, 2003, 03:34
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If I remember correctly, in addition to setting fires, the ELF also spikes trees (sticks metal spikes in them so that anyone trying to cut them with a chainsaw will have their chainsaw destroyed and will be at risk of flying chainsaw death) in logging areas, I believe. It's either them or some other kooky environmentalist group.
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August 3, 2003, 04:14
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Mmmmm! Elf: the other other white meat!
 I'll take environmentalists seriously when they stop using electricity, gasoline, paper, plastics, stop buying anything shipped by road or air, medicine more advanced than aspirin…
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August 3, 2003, 04:23
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ELF = American Osama Bin Ladens
They must all be blasted to hell.
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August 3, 2003, 04:31
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Originally posted by Straybow
I'll take environmentalists seriously when they stop using electricity, gasoline, paper, plastics, stop buying anything shipped by road or air, medicine more advanced than aspirin…
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Of course. ELF are really environmentalists, and we should all rape the land, air and seas with total abandon until "environmentalists" all comply with some arbitrary standard of living applied to nobody else.
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August 3, 2003, 04:35
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Originally posted by Fez
ELF = American Osama Bin Ladens
They must all be blasted to hell.
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Nice to see a sense of proportion creeping into your posts
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August 3, 2003, 05:48
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OH GOD NO!!! IT'S THE PLAGUE OF PINK CHRISTINAGUILERA MONSTERS!!!! AAARRARARHFGHDHG!!!!
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!
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August 3, 2003, 09:14
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Of course. ELF are really environmentalists, and we should all rape the land, air and seas with total abandon until "environmentalists" all comply with some arbitrary standard of living applied to nobody else.
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Yes, the same arbitrary standard of living they want to apply to us.
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August 3, 2003, 09:25
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Originally posted by Straybow
Mmmmm! Elf: the other other white meat!
I'll take environmentalists seriously when they stop using electricity, gasoline, paper, plastics, stop buying anything shipped by road or air, medicine more advanced than aspirin…
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And I'll take the war supporters seriously once they go to Iraq and get themselves killed.
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August 3, 2003, 09:46
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Whoa! Thread-jack! *must... not... listen*
*gives in*
The difference between Gulf II and this is that they are trying to impose their philosophy on all of us, whereas we are simply saying that "It'd be a good thing to declare war on Iraq".
Don't you think it'd be counterproductive to send something over 50% of Americans to Iraq, just for kicks?
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