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Old August 4, 2003, 11:26   #1
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Trains slow as UK swelters
Rail speed restrictions have been put in place as UK temperatures edge towards record levels.
Network Rail imposed the restrictions on many of Britain's busiest lines, amid fears of rails buckling in temperatures of up to 33C.

The speed restrictions will bring trains which normally travel at up to 110 miles an hour, down to 60.

They will be introduced on the main London to Glasgow line, London to Norwich, across the Southern England commuter network and in the Midlands.

The worst delays - of up to an hour - will be on Virgin trains services between London, Manchester and Glasgow.

The speed limits were criticised by some, with Steve Hounsham of Transport 2000 saying they would lead to "delays and hot tempers" among passengers.

"Obviously, safety comes first but many people will be asking why our rail network can't cope with what is, after all, a relatively mild climate," he said.


UK'S HOTTEST DAY
UK's hottest recorded temperature is 37.1C (99F)
Recorded on 3 August 1990 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
'Could be beaten this week', say forecasters


But Caroline Jones, a spokeswoman for the Rail Passengers Council, said Network Rail could not be criticised for such a safety move - so long as it did its best to inform passengers.
"They have to be acting in a safe fashion and ensuring that the rail network is safe to travel on," she said.

The move came as forecasters said a string of temperature records could be broken this week.

The highest temperature so far this year - 33.6C, recorded on 15 July at Wisley, Surrey - is likely to be beaten mid-week, said the BBC Weather Centre.

And the hottest day ever recorded in the UK - 37.1C (99F), recorded on 3 August 1990 at Cheltenham, Gloucestershire - could also topple on Wednesday or Thursday.

BBC forecaster Nina Ridge said: "We're looking at temperatures around 10 degrees above average for this time of year."

Too hot to shop

Even at night temperatures will remain about 17 or 18C across much of England, which could be uncomfortably sultry for some people, she said.

Some traders have expressed concern that people are too hot to shop.

Peter Avey, who runs Seasiders amusement arcade and restaurant in Brighton, said: "I think it may be too hot for a lot of people.

"Over the weekend numbers of people were up but takings did not reflect it.

"Everyone was buying ice creams and drinks, but I think it's too hot to eat."


No air-con and it's 85F
Mark Lunnon, England

As well as high temperatures this week, there will also be high humidity, causing discomfort or even heat stress for many people.
England will be the hottest area, but Northern Ireland and Scotland will also be in the mid to high 20s.

Forecasters advise vulnerable people - especially the elderly, the very young and those with high blood pressure - to keep cool by staying in the shade, drinking lots of water, and not doing anything too strenuous.

Betting agency William Hill has reduced its odds from 12/1 to 5/1 for bets that the temperature will reach 100F.

Travellers to Europe will find temperatures even higher, with Paris due to reach 40C by Wednesday, Barcelona hitting 36C and Lisbon basking in 38C.

The scorching conditions have exacerbated wildfires in France and Portugal, which left several people dead.


RECORD WEATHER
Temperature extremes by continent:
Africa: 57.8C, El Azizia, Libya, 13 Sep 1922
Antarctica: 15.0C, Vanda Station, Scott Coast 5 Jan 1974
Asia: 53.9C, Tirat Tsvi, Israel, 21 June 1942
Australasia: 53.3C, Cloncurry, Queensland 16 Jan 1889
Europe: 50.0C, Seville, Spain, 4 August 1881
North America: 56.7C, Death Valley, California, 10 July 1913
Oceania (Pacific Rim): 42.2C, Tugnegareo, Philippines, 29 April 1912
South America: 48.9C, Rivadavia, Argentina, 11 Dec 1905
Source: BBC Weather Centre


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...ws/3120805.stm

Published: 2003/08/04 13:56:40 GMT

© BBC MMIII
AWWWWW WAHHHHH CAN'T TAKE THE HEAT!
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Old August 4, 2003, 11:28   #2
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99 degrees F? Is that all???
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99 degrees F? Is that all???

that's what I said!!!
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Damn, 15C (59 F) is Antartica? Man, what a hellish summer that must have been!
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Point 1 - our rail system is diabolical, everyone knows that. There is also a hidden agenda here as Network Rail want to introduce speed restrictions permanently to reduce maintenance costs and this is a way of testing public reaction.

Point 2 - We like to talk about the weather in Britain. It usually changes every few days and we have nothing more interesting to complain about. Just because your weather is more boring than ours doesn't justify such jealousy and complaining about our complaining.
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99 F how much is that in C`s?
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The British rail service is a gift to the worlds comedians.

To be fair nothing will happen to the tracks, but our namby pandy risk averse culture isn't prepared to keep teh speeds up because of a tiny theoretical risk of buckling.

If 1 person dies on the railways its a national tragedy if 100 die on the roads no one cares
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People who don't live in hot countries aren't as well adjusted to the heat as people who do. To people who live in inhospitable places those temperatures don't seem too bad, to us they are. But it's actually a physical difference.

It's the same kind of idea as Inuit people being able to live outside in the arctic without wearing face masks when it would freeze the faces of European explorers in minutes. So you can laugh at us but you just make yourself look ignorant.
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And when was the last time Americans had a summer and didn't use air conditioning?
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That and i would like to see how much americans would laugh if there were no airco's everywhere. From my epxerience with America people hop in their airco'd car, drive to freezing shop, back in their car and go back to their airco'd house...
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That would be really pathetic. Aircon is for wimps.
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I love hiking in the desert and no there isn't any AC out their either.

These wusses are whinning about the heat and it isn't even 100?
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Did the rail company really need an excuse to run its trains even slower?
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oerdin, you're dealing with that wimp hot.
Drag your ass to Texas for some heat and humidity.

A/C, car or house, is not an option.
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Slowwhand, you damn whiny American!
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When do you go hiking?
I hike year round though I have to admite I stick to the mountains or the coast during the hottest parts of summer. It's still in the 90's sometimes when I go hiking but there's no real danger as long as you drink water and wear sunscreen.
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So you hike in the desert when it's 70 or 80F there?
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To be fair nothing will happen to the tracks, but our namby pandy risk averse culture isn't prepared to keep teh speeds up because of a tiny theoretical risk of buckling.
Hey Stinger, you should check out http://www.spiked-online.com/

It's a political website with a strong angle on 'risk-averse culture'.
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It's hot and I'm loving it!
i know, bloody brilliant ain't it. i can't believe people are whining when we finally get some half decent weather this summer after it peeing it down for the best of two weeks before hand!
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Yes, I don't mind this weather at all...I can work in it, just need plenty of liquid and a shower every night from work...and it's going to get hotter Let's hope it finally breaks through 100 (is that 37 or so?)
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Yea, according to my calculations, that is a bit more than 37º C.

Hm, that is pretty extreme. I haven't experienced anything over 23 or so in the past week, Bless these night shifts =)
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1) If Britain's rail network is this bad, Britain has to have the most laughable rail system in the world.

2) If the network is fine but the system admins are just stupid, then they've still got to have the most laughable rail system in the world.
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Yea, according to my calculations, that is a bit more than 37º C.

Hm, that is pretty extreme. I haven't experienced anything over 23 or so in the past week, Bless these night shifts =)
Hehe, wait until you get to London
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