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Old September 11, 2003, 09:27   #421
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The more serious side of that of course is that we play far too much rugby here - and none of the various sponsors of the tournaments are prepared to give up their prime slot in the calendar.

But logically May/June would have been far better for us - given we play a full league program throughout the RWC and six nations this season.

So is it possible, just possible mind you, that the tri-nations countries didn't want it before that tournament (that didn't exist in 95) - in which case you are as stubborn as we are.

A real case of everybody loses I think?
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Make sure you catch England v Georgia though.
Ha, not likely. I'll probably watch NZ v Italy though.
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Old September 11, 2003, 11:36   #423
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Well if you are happy watching second division stuff instead of my recommended Clash of the Titans...



Poor Italy - five years ago they would have given a decent showing I think (they would never have beaten you) but now they are really at a low point. Two wins in four years in the six nations - at home to Scotland and Wales. Kind of says it all really?

As for fixtures - Pumas-Australia and Ireland-Australia should be tasty and I'm certainly going to catch NZ-Wales.
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If you are in need of real competition and matches between even parties be sure to watch France - USA.
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Not to mention England v South Africa.

Will anyone be watching Georgia vs. Samoa?

I'm going to try to watch all the USA games. They should have a good chance of beating Japan and possibly Fiji. Hopefully they also beat Scotland and make it past pool play.
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If you are in need of real competition and matches between even parties be sure to watch France - USA.
There's a lot of Australian in you, Tamerlin. Except your command of English is better than most Australians'.
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If you are in need of real competition and matches between even parties be sure to watch France - USA.
Nothing against France, but I'll be cheering for the US.
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There's a lot of Australian in you, Tamerlin.
Given what you are usually saying about your compatriots I don't know if I must take it for a compliment or for an insult.

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Nothing against France, but I'll be cheering for the US.
Just for that I hope they will be slaughtered...




...the Eagles of course.
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Given what you are usually saying about your compatriots I don't know if I must take it for a compliment or for an insult.
Bit of both. Australians love to kick their "heroes" when they're down too. But your English is vastly superior to most Australians.
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The Boks seem to have put their inquiry into recent allegations of racism on hold until next year.

http://www.planetrugby.com/LATEST_NE...ry_30597.shtml

While this may indeed be more beneficial to their players performance I can't help but feel that its just going to add more fuel to the fire as far as international media coverage is concerned ...
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It's called copping out.
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At my college, the rugby team is a social and competitive club. We just had a party with one of the sororities. Its good stuff.

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If you are in need of real competition and matches between even parties be sure to watch France - USA.
You meant France-Australia surely Tamerlin?

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Will anyone be watching Georgia vs. Samoa?
You know I probably will – I get rather sad around RWC time and watch almost any game.

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Hopefully they also beat Scotland and make it past pool play.
Ireland – minus the noted injured players – destroyed Scotland last weekend. Behind the scrum Scotland look woeful. The forwards are solid but if the Eagles can match them up front they have every chance I would say.

Remember however we are talking about an Eagles side that was destroyed twice inside a week in June by an England XV that didn’t include any of the 30 players touring in Aus and NZ – that doesn’t speak much for the current strength of the Eagles to me?

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There's a lot of Australian in you, Tamerlin. Except your command of English is better than most Australians'.
As you have both noted – a super way there to both insult and compliment a man all at the same time?
His command of English is of course better than most Brits possess!

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I should cheer for France I know – but I may have to jump ship on Tamerlin here – I’d certainly rather draw the US in the semi final than France – if we get that far (and fun exchanges aside I’m not assuming anything there).

Are you truly surprised the Boks have held off the enquiry? It simply can’t help the team performance to have it before the tournament. And anyway their coach believes the incident has helped ‘bond’ the squad. I really am starting to wonder what planet the guy lives on?
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As you have both noted – a super way there to both insult and compliment a man all at the same time?
His command of English is of course better than most Brits possess!
I heard an esteemed French author and philosopher on the wireless this afternoon talking about the wrongness of the current approach to Islam. From his turn of phrase, I could've sworn it was Tamerlin. Our Man in Toulouse is hiding his not inconsiderable light under a rather large bushel, methinks.

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It will haunt them all the way. The man's a moron.
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I heard an esteemed French author and philosopher on the wireless this afternoon talking about the wrongness of the current approach to Islam. From his turn of phrase, I could've sworn it was Tamerlin. Our Man in Toulouse is hiding his not inconsiderable light under a rather large bushel, methinks.
Alas, no! I am nor esteemed nor an author or philosopher or any kind. The only things I am writing are adventures for my fellow role playing gamers which can hardly be considered as litterature... though it is generally very entertaining.
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You meant France-Australia surely Tamerlin?
Are the Aussies so desperate?

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I should cheer for France I know – but I may have to jump ship on Tamerlin here – I’d certainly rather draw the US in the semi final than France – if we get that far (and fun exchanges aside I’m not assuming anything there).
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A few decades ago it was called Propaganda!

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OK, I have finally understood... you both have something to ask to me!
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Um...you mean like "Can you lend me a tenner (make that twenty euros)?"
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Read this for some very unpleasant detail of what's been going on within the Springbok squad.
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Very disturbing stuff - though it is rather pleasing to see Kempson and Krige come out of it with some positive personal integrity.
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I just don't see what all the fuss is about, and why everybody thinks it's their business. If the Springboks have players with racial prejudices, then obviously that's going to cause problems with team unity. It's up to them to either get the player to confront his prejudices or get rid of him.

Another factor in this is the institution of racial quotas. It must be hard enough to get white players who were raised under apartheid to accept playing with non-whites even without racial quotas. There must be huge resentment towards players who are promoted because of their race, not their ability.
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Just for that I hope they will be slaughtered...
They probably will be, but you can't blame me for cheering them on. After all, I do live here, so I have an interest in supporting US rugby.
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You know I probably will – I get rather sad around RWC time and watch almost any game.
Do you sad as in pathetic? Well call me pathetic then because I will probably do the same. As I said - my wife will miss me.

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Ireland – minus the noted injured players – destroyed Scotland last weekend. Behind the scrum Scotland look woeful. The forwards are solid but if the Eagles can match them up front they have every chance I would say.
The Eagles have been doing better than they historically do. They managed to beat Canada quite convincingly. Normally Canada would easily roll them. As I have said before, rugby is growing here.

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Perhaps not, but I think the same England team the Eagles faced probably could have beaten Scotland.

The Eagles are capable of suprising. Last year they played a Springbok team that was a mix of first and second string players and only lost by 20. They were actually ahead for the first half.
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If the six nations were played on the merit of the teams would the England A, B and C size deserve to play instead of Wales Scotland and Italy?
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If the six nations were played on the merit of the teams would the England A, B and C size deserve to play instead of Wales Scotland and Italy?
I'd imagine a two-man team of Clive Woodward and Will Carling would deserve a place in front of Italy at the moment.
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Brisbane weather update. Last night they played an AFL semi-final in Brisbane. Yesterday's max was 34C. It was 26C during the game. Players donned ice vests in the breaks between quarters and when on the interchange bench.
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Very disturbing stuff - though it is rather pleasing to see Kempson and Krige come out of it with some positive personal integrity.
As I've said before about Krige, there's a lot to admire about the man. If only he didn't let himself down with some appalling onfield behaviour.
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Waikato -d- Otago 27-15

Top of the table clash sees Waikato move to the top of the NPC. Waikato score 4 tries to none. Only Willie Walker's penalties kept Otago in the hunt... Very very interesting stats at the end of the game.

Possesion WAI 37% OTA 63%
Rucks/Mauls WAI 61 OTA 121
Handling Errors WAI 5 OTA 15
Scrums won WAI 9 OTA 1
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Waikato -d- Otago 27-15

Top of the table clash sees Waikato move to the top of the NPC. Waikato score 4 tries to none. Only Willie Walker's penalties kept Otago in the hunt... Very very interesting stats at the end of the game.

Possesion WAI 37% OTA 63%
Rucks/Mauls WAI 61 OTA 121
Handling Errors WAI 5 OTA 15
Scrums won WAI 9 OTA 1
Interesting stats indeed. Otago had heaps more ball but obviously coughed it up heaps more. And, with no tries, they obviously had trouble finishing. Or, to put it the other way, Waikato made the very most of their opportunities. Incredible ruck/maul imbalance too.
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