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Old August 12, 2003, 01:07   #31
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They are no threat to the U.S.




Theyre probably one of the BIGGEST threats to the US right now
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Old August 12, 2003, 01:34   #33
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the biggest threat to the U.S. is fear
Are you sure you were in the same Navy that I was in?
I think you spent to many year in the MMR.

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Old August 12, 2003, 01:35   #34
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The biggest threats to the US are internal. Gentrification, budget crisis, and either an unjust or overwhelmed justice system in most areas. And neo-cons.

The biggest external threat would be Arab resent of us, followed by the Chinese.
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Oh wow..the Chinese are trying to figure out how to undermine the US in space! How utterly..logical.



Yes, since the US is so good, we can print pieces openly stating we can not let any other state come close to challenging us militarilly,, but woe to any country that may try! I mean, just look anbd the freindliness and good will many posters here show..why would the Chinese ever get the idea that the US might not be the best friend ever???



The Chinese plan to be a significant military power. To do so, one must be prepared. That applies to the US as well.
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**shrug** China isn't stupid, and neither is the United States. The two are going to have to get along with each other or the planet's gonna end up with two gaping craters where great nations once were.

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Nah! Our biggest threat is still the Russkies. After all, they are still the only country who can destroy us. Who knows what comes after Putin?
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Old August 12, 2003, 04:18   #39
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Russians make good music and demos, like the winning 64kb intro presented last weekend at assembly03.

About the topic, It seems a little childish how US responds. Like the spoiled brat in the playground with the coolest toy car to the other child who is just about to buy almost as cool little car as the brat has. "I'm not playing with you anymore".

I mean cant' you have equal friends? Do you always have to be the biggest, strongest, bulliest? I seems you can't be friends with anyone who doesn't lick your ass, or agree with you all the time.
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Do they go about trying to conqure the world? No
Does the US want to conquer the world? No. Does the US want to strongly influence what happens in the rest of the world? Yes.

Does China want to conquer the world? No. Does China want to strongly influence what happens in the rest of the world? Yes.

PRC is looking 20 to 30 years down the line.

Oh, and I support banning anyone who posts a Fox article without putting a LARGE warning before it so innocent people are not subjected to such drivel without consent.
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China may not be your friend, but you're desperate to have them as an enemy. Why, a harmless China means there's no need for more military gadgets, and we can't have that, can we?
china is anything but harmless, especially to its own people

and elijah, i do find it amusing that you like china, when it has one of (if not the) worst human rights records on the planet.
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Do you think that China poses a significant military threat, C0ckney?
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Look you liberal nut cases, FOX is as legitmate, or more so, than Clinton News Network, USA(clone of CNN). Is that the only way you liberals can win is by trying to ban a conservative news network, man you have become disgusting.
What I am trying to get across in, "China is not our Friend", that when we go to war or trying to solve the NK crisis, why do we even try to work with them, their vote to us will always be NO, another reason why the UN will never work.
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china is anything but harmless, especially to its own people

and elijah, i do find it amusing that you like china, when it has one of (if not the) worst human rights records on the planet.
It's quite simple, really, and it's something that many Euros fall into:

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Anyone who can piss off Americans that much without putting them in any danger has to be good!!!
The bolded part is all that really matters. The rest (without putting us in danger, the human rights stuff, the support for NK, blah, blah, blah) is pretty much irrelevent, because the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

This is how soft-hearted liberal types end up apologizing for nasty authoritarian regimes. Sometimes those regimes are in opposition to the REAL enemy - the big, bad, United States. Of course, when the US supports or merely fails to oppose such regimes, it's horrible. Damn imperialist bastards!

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Indeed, China is not our friend. Unfortunately, our foreign policy with regard to the Chinese is every bit as moronic as our policies toward the Islamic states. Having spent years living amongst chinese people I agree completely with Joseph. They dont think like we do. Why should they? You dont have to live there though, one only needs to look at China's history to see that fact.
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not to us, for now. i was simply disagreeing with the idea that china is harmless.
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Sig time!

(Were they so legitimate when they reported those pesticide plants as WoMD factories? Eh?)
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c'mon do you really want to go back and show you what CNN has said or done, you have to take it in the aggregate, everyone can declare some individual specifics.

http://www.foxnews.com/

Take a look today and tell me what is so outrageous?
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Well duh. You don't have to be friends with someone to do business with them.
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Sig time!

(Were they so legitimate when they reported those pesticide plants as WoMD factories? Eh?)
I guess you were too busy laughing to notice that every tv-news reported the same thing.
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As I remember it, other networks said it was "possibly" a WoMD. I'm not sure if I remember right but FOX was the only one that skipped straight to the conclusion it was a WoMD site.
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Thanks I don't feel like carrying on a full-spirited crushing. (Also, I don't feel like reading every article to find all the problems. I'm sure a net rat like Tass or Sava would find the time to do so though )
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Nice excuse mitchell, nevermind wasn't for you.
Then again maybe you remember wrong and FOX said "probably" also, if you can't remember then of course it is possible, right?
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Yes, but I have the more prominent memory of it not saying "probably".

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Mitchell you weiner,
if you are going to put a quote of mine in your botton line heading then please put the entire quote, then again what should I expect from you liberals, always taking the half truths.
I am still honored you are quoting me even if it isn't the whole quote.
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i think china is a friend. not to the us, but to me.

see, the way i see it, if there's anything bad in the us and it turns xenophobic against us slanty-eyes, we'll be having a resonably strong nation stand up for us.
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I understand the sentiment, but why exactly do you think the PRC would stand up for you, given how they treat the "slanty-eyes" under their rule?

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i think china is a friend. not to the us, but to me.

see, the way i see it, if there's anything bad in the us and it turns xenophobic against us slanty-eyes, we'll be having a resonably strong nation stand up for us.
China could care less about you, unless you are a member of the their Communist Party.
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