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Old August 19, 2003, 21:27   #31
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1: e4 e5
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4 Nc3 Nf6
5 Qe2 Be7
6 d3 Bg4
7 Qe3 d3
8 Bd3 Nd5
9 Nd5 Qd5
10 Qe4 c6
11 Qd5 d5
12 Bd2 O-O
13 Ne2 Nd7
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1: e4 e5
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7 Qe3 d3
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9 Nd5 Qd5
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12 Bd2 O-O
13 Ne2 Nd7
14 h3 Bh5
15 g4 Bg6
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Old August 19, 2003, 21:39   #33
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dang...
1: e4 e5
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5 Qe2 Be7
6 d3 Bg4
7 Qe3 d3
8 Bd3 Nd5
9 Nd5 Qd5
10 Qe4 c6
11 Qd5 d5
12 Bd2 O-O
13 Ne2 Nd7
14 h3 Bh5
15 g4 Bg6
16 f5 Bh4+
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1: e4 e5
2: f4 d5
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4 Nc3 Nf6
5 Qe2 Be7
6 d3 Bg4
7 Qe3 d3
8 Bd3 Nd5
9 Nd5 Qd5
10 Qe4 c6
11 Qd5 d5
12 Bd2 O-O
13 Ne2 Nd7
14 h3 Bh5
15 g4 Bg6
16 f5 Bh4+
17 Kd1

Yeah, that's an owie. I figured after Nd7, h3 forced you to exchange bishop for knight and give me the bishop pair plus an isolated pawn on an open file to work.
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Well, i've never known what to do against the kings gamibit, and I did better in this game than i expected to do against it.



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4 Nc3 Nf6
5 Qe2 Be7
6 d3 Bg4
7 Qe3 d3
8 Bd3 Nd5
9 Nd5 Qd5
10 Qe4 c6
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12 Bd2 O-O
13 Ne2 Nd7
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1: e4 e5
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4 Nc3 Nf6
5 Qe2 Be7
6 d3 Bg4
7 Qe3 d3
8 Bd3 Nd5
9 Nd5 Qd5
10 Qe4 c6
11 Qd5 d5
12 Bd2 O-O
13 Ne2 Nd7
14 h3 Bh5
15 g4 Bg6
16 f5 Bh4+
17 Kd1 Rae8
18 Bb4

Prior to exchanging off the queens, you were actually at least equal, if not a little better. Depending on the line played, the Falkbeer makes things hairy for white due to exposed king. I like the KG for it's relative rarity and psychological effect.
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6 d3 Bg4
7 Qe3 d3
8 Bd3 Nd5
9 Nd5 Qd5
10 Qe4 c6
11 Qd5 d5
12 Bd2 O-O
13 Ne2 Nd7
14 h3 Bh5
15 g4 Bg6
16 f5 Bh4+
17 Kd1 Rae8
18 Bb4 Be7

I play in the K-12 turnaments, and no one thier knows how to respond to the kings gambit. I will have to study it more.
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8 Bd3 Nd5
9 Nd5 Qd5
10 Qe4 c6
11 Qd5 d5
12 Bd2 O-O
13 Ne2 Nd7
14 h3 Bh5
15 g4 Bg6
16 f5 Bh4+
17 Kd1 Rae8
18 Bb4 Be7
19 Be7

Assuming 19 ... Re7 then 20 Nd4


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I play in the K-12 turnaments, and no one thier knows how to respond to the kings gambit. I will have to study it more.
There's at least three decent books on it published in the last 20 years or so - you might be able to get a deal on a used version of any of them through amazon.com or abebooks.com It's a good opening to know well precisely because few players know how to handle it.
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8 Bd3 Nd5
9 Nd5 Qd5
10 Qe4 c6
11 Qd5 d5
12 Bd2 O-O
13 Ne2 Nd7
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8 Bd3 Nd5
9 Nd5 Qd5
10 Qe4 c6
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12 Bd2 O-O
13 Ne2 Nd7
14 h3 Bh5
15 g4 Bg6
16 f5 Bh4+
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I think it is standard to record captures with a piece by (piece)x(square), instead of the shorthand way for pawn captures by a pawn. I was following the game, and was amazed to see a budding endgame (albeit a one-sided one) with no captures recorded.
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9 Nd5 Qd5
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12 Bd2 O-O
13 Ne2 Nd7
14 h3 Bh5
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16 f5 Bh4+
17 Kd1 Rae8
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1 e4 e5
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6 d3 Bg4
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9 Nd5 Qd5
10 Qe4 c6
11 Qd5 d5
12 Bd2 O-O
13 Ne2 Nd7
14 h3 Bh5
15 g4 Bg6
16 f5 Bh4+
17 Kd1 Rae8
18 Bb4 Be7
19 Be7 Re7
20 Nd4 h6
21 fg fg
22 Kd2 a6
23 Rhf1 Ne5
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14 h3 Bh5
15 g4 Bg6
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17 Kd1 Rae8
18 Bb4 Be7
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13 Ne2 Nd7
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15 g4 Bg6
16 f5 Bh4+
17 Kd1 Rae8
18 Bb4 Be7
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20 Nd4 h6
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10 Qe4 c6
11 Qd5 d5
12 Bd2 O-O
13 Ne2 Nd7
14 h3 Bh5
15 g4 Bg6
16 f5 Bh4+
17 Kd1 Rae8
18 Bb4 Be7
19 Be7 Re7
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17 Kd1 Rae8
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19 Be7 Re7
20 Nd4 h6
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18 Bb4 Be7
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20 Nd4 h6
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10 Qe4 c6
11 Qd5 d5
12 Bd2 O-O
13 Ne2 Nd7
14 h3 Bh5
15 g4 Bg6
16 f5 Bh4+
17 Kd1 Rae8
18 Bb4 Be7
19 Be7 Re7
20 Nd4 h6
21 fg fg
22 Kd2 a6
23 Rhf1 Ne5
24 Rae1 Rf6
25 Nf3 Rf3
26 Re5 Rd3+
27 Kd3 Re5
28 Rf2 Re4
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