August 21, 2003, 15:17
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For personal, I scored 30, for social I scored 80.
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August 21, 2003, 15:20
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King
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These questions blow... 
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August 21, 2003, 15:56
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Re: Ideological Compass
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Originally posted by  Smiley
Ten questions...
Score 20 points per YES, 10 per MAYBE, 0 per NO
Personal materialism:
1. Can money can buy happiness? NO (but it makes suffering easier  )
2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic? NO. (functional)
3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife) YES.
4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation? NO.
5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one? NO.
20
Social materialism:
6. Does economic progress lead to social progress? YES.
7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs? YES.
8. Should Church and State be seperate? YES.
9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space? YES. (oceans i could care less about)
10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city? YES.
100
And one unscored question:
How has CIV influenced your attitudes on the above issues?
not much, i don't think so anyway. i think my beliefs have influenced my civ style, but even that isn't so true. i poprush because i can expend people, not because i am morally aligned with killing off the civilians of my empire.
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August 21, 2003, 16:00
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I'm utopian!!!
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August 21, 2003, 23:45
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King
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Re: Ideological Compass
Personal materialism:
1. Can money can buy happiness? NO
2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic? NO
3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife) NO
4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation? NO
5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one? NO
Social materialism:
6. Does economic progress lead to social progress? NO
7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs? NO
8. Should Church and State be seperate? YES
9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space? YES
10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city? YES
Personal: 0
Social: 60
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August 21, 2003, 23:59
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Personal materialism:
1. Can money can buy happiness? 0
2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic? 0
3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife) 20
4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation? 10
5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one? 10
Social materialism:
6. Does economic progress lead to social progress? 0
7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs? 0
8. Should Church and State be seperate? 20
9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space? 10
10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city? 10
A: 40
B: 40
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You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez
"I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui
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August 22, 2003, 06:09
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Deity
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Originally posted by Monk
Spiffor: Ganz genau.
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Thx for clearing up those two questions...
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August 22, 2003, 06:10
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Originally posted by ADG
Personal: 10
Social: 30 - 50
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After now knowing the meaning of the two other q's, my scores ends up like this:
Personal: 10
Social: 40
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August 22, 2003, 06:16
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Prince
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Personal: 0
Social: 30
Guess that makes me something of a hedonist!!  
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August 22, 2003, 06:18
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Prince
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30 and 40
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August 22, 2003, 06:18
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Personal: 30
Social: 80
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I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).
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August 25, 2003, 19:13
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anyone have any ideas as to how this could be improved (changes or new questions, etc)?
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There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd
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August 26, 2003, 00:31
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Yes. You could plot our answers while labeling the points with our names.
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August 26, 2003, 00:37
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Personal materialism:
1. Can money can buy happiness?
MAYBE - 10
2. Is the primary purpose of clothing aesthetic?
NO - 0
3. Does life end at death? (no afterlife)
MAYBE - 10
4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation?
MAYBE - 10 (depends on how much the raise is )
5. Is a new thing inherently better than an identical old one?
YES - 20
Social materialism:
6. Does economic progress lead to social progress?
YES - 20
7. Should the needs of other life be subservient to human needs?
MAYBE - 10
8. Should Church and State be seperate?
YES - 20
9. Should humans settle the oceans and outer space?
YES - 20
10. Would you prefer an engineer over an architect to plan a city?
YES - 20
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Personal - 40
Social - 90
I'm a Utopian Consumerist .
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- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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August 26, 2003, 01:10
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st leo, i get to that soon when i got some time.
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There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd
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August 26, 2003, 01:14
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60, 60
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August 31, 2003, 00:10
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Tabulated results. Very interesting. While the range of materialism ran much of the spectrum, not one person of exactly 30 was valued personal materialism more than social materialism.
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There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd
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August 31, 2003, 00:48
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For comparison, a chart of major world institutions and population groups
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There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd
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August 31, 2003, 23:34
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Yes people, the results are up... can anyone offer any explanation for the concentration of all of Apolyton's responses on the right side of the grid?
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There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd
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September 1, 2003, 11:51
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Well, we don't really have that many valley girls, record company executives, and Fox News spin neurosurgeons posting here.
4. Are salary raises preferable to more vacation?
Wouldn't saying "no" automatically make you a social materialist? Bingo.
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September 1, 2003, 12:06
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Prince
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0:50
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