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Male gender will become extinct, says scientist
A British scientist says that the Y chromosome is decaying at an alarming rate. He predicts if nothing changes, that in ~125,000 years, men will go extinct.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08242003...lnews/3984.htm
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August 26, 2003, 16:48
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Actually, he says that only 1% will be fertile and able to reproduce.
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August 26, 2003, 16:48
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And of course, scientists are never wrong. 
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August 26, 2003, 16:49
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Lucky 1% bastards. 
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August 26, 2003, 16:49
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Bah!
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August 26, 2003, 16:51
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I LOVE your thread titles Diplomat. Keep it up ! 
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August 26, 2003, 16:52
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What makes you think humans will still be around by then?
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August 26, 2003, 16:53
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The Y chromosome has survived in other mammals for millions of generations, I can't see any reason why humans would be so different.
In any case, nature would select those few men with mutations that protect the chromosome from degeneration so humans could still continue to contaminate this planet 
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August 26, 2003, 16:53
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Right. But surely if our knowledge of gene manipulation continues to increase, we'll eventually be able to restore the Y chromosome to its former glory.
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August 26, 2003, 16:54
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Someone will have to be making sperm, no?
As for trusting the NY Post...well....best newspaper out there, for lining your birdcage with.
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August 26, 2003, 16:56
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Originally posted by GePap
Someone will have to be making sperm, no?
As for trusting the NY Post...well....best newspaper out there...
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August 26, 2003, 16:58
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Originally posted by Combat Ingrid
The Y chromosome has survived in other mammals for millions of generations, I can't see any reason why humans would be so different.
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Except that we humans have created pesticides, pollution and nuclear waste which may be affecting our genetic condition. We may be causing our own doom.
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August 26, 2003, 16:59
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Right. But surely if our knowledge of gene manipulation continues to increase, we'll eventually be able to restore the Y chromosome to its former glory.
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I sure hopes so.
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'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"
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August 26, 2003, 17:00
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I LOVE your thread titles Diplomat. Keep it up !
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Thanks. I put a lot of thought into my thread titles.
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'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"
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August 26, 2003, 17:35
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Originally posted by The diplomat
Except that we humans have created pesticides, pollution and nuclear waste which may be affecting our genetic condition. We may be causing our own doom.
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There can be no "decay rate". There is only a (relatively) constant value for the percent of the population that is infertile, because those who are infertile will not pass on their genes. So that percent reflect the chance of birth defects etc.
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August 26, 2003, 17:39
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Legalize Stem Cell Research, Cloning, and Marijuana!!!!
(I don't really know why I threw in weed, I guess I just got carried away  )
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August 26, 2003, 17:43
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Lucky 1% bastards.
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Are you kidding? Think about it. 99% will be able to have all the sex they want without worrying about kids.
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August 26, 2003, 17:49
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The Y chromosome has survived in other mammals for millions of generations, I can't see any reason why humans would be so different.
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There's the danger that our genetic manipulation turns on us and we accidentally market an automatic castration product as the next Viagra.
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As for this article, women are the baby machines, so the human race would be able to continue (if the article's correct. I haven't read it) for a generation or so without total collapse. However, eventually inbreeding and the death of the last fertile male would make us completely screwed.
All I can say, though, is: I hope I'm the last male to go 
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August 26, 2003, 17:50
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All I can say, though, is: I hope I'm the last male to go
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Ever see A Boy and His Dog? Becareful what you ask for.
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August 26, 2003, 18:05
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Originally posted by skywalker
There can be no "decay rate". There is only a (relatively) constant value for the percent of the population that is infertile, because those who are infertile will not pass on their genes. So that percent reflect the chance of birth defects etc.
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Scientific studies have shown a correlation between infertility and pesticides and other hazardous chemicals. So, my point is still valid: we may be screwing ourselves in the long term with all the pollution, pesticides, nuclear waste etc...
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August 26, 2003, 18:06
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Diplomat - see my post. There is no "degeneration".
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August 26, 2003, 18:07
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Ever see A Boy and His Dog? Becareful what you ask for.
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Yeah, you could end up cannibalizing your girlfriend after finding out she is the town slut.
Warning: This joke may be too "-istic" for some.
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August 26, 2003, 18:07
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Mabye so all we males on Apolyton should undergo a Gender Transformaton just to stay on the winning side
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August 26, 2003, 18:09
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Bring it on! The human race would look so much better if its populated only by women.
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August 26, 2003, 18:10
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But who would film all that hot girl-on-girl porn? 
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In 125,000 years? Why the hell should I care about what happens 125,000 years from now?
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If we are in heaven, and capable of viewig bedrooms, then the afterlife sure is something to look forward to!
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August 26, 2003, 18:14
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Wait...125,000 years? ****it then. We'll have found a way to kill ALL of us by then
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August 26, 2003, 18:14
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If we are in heaven, and capable of viewig bedrooms, then the afterlife sure is something to look forward to!
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A new reason to believe in God
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Diplomat - see my post. There is no "degeneration".
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I understand what you said. I was not talking about "degeneration" or anything like that. I was talking about how pesticides and pollutants can cause fertility problems. Therefore, if we continue to use such pollutants, the human race may face a growing infertility problem in the long term.
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G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"
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