Weird facts

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Japher
That may be true, but the amount of insects that is allowed in "food" is crazy!

The sun spews out more than a million tons of matter every second!

That is true, but there are federal guidelines about how much insect matter goes into food before it doesn't pass.

ACK!

[Tuberski]

Nobody on the entire planet can pick up a chair by the bottom of one leg with one hand.

Try it.

ACK!

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Tuberski


Ummmmm......

http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/spiders.htm

ACK!

[Tuberski]

ACK!

[Kuciwalker]

64.8% of all statistics are made up on the spot

All of the gold that has been mined would fill an 18x18x18 meter cube.

[Sava]

Originally posted by PLATO
There are more people alive today than have ever died.

that's wrong... according to a national geographic atlas I have... there have been an estimated 300 billion humans that have ever lived (homo sapiens)... the total number of people alive today is about 5% of all that have ever lived...

[MrFun]

And do we count all species of humans, including those that went extinct?

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Sava
that's wrong... according to a national geographic atlas I have... there have been an estimated 300 billion humans that have ever lived (homo sapiens)... the total number of people alive today is about 5% of all that have ever lived...

Well Sava, you are partially correct:

How many people have ever lived? Keyfitz's calculation updated
(done June 18, 1999)
This work was done at the request of Prof. Glen Paige
for his new book, "Non-killing Political Science"
A simple model of population growth is the exponential model where the population at time t, P(t), is given by Cert for some appropriate constants C and r. This model is broadly accurate, especially when an organism invades a new ecological niche and the environment seems to have infinite capacity for growth. This model accurately describes the initial growth of a bacterial culture in a fresh dish of growth medium, or the human population as it discovered agriculture. More refined models are needed as environmental and predatory constraints impinge, but this model works well with most human populations because many human populations rapidly shift from one environmental disequilibrium to another (and thus present a moving target that the environmental constraints fail to effectively constrain). It is of course never that simple: Black Death in Europe caused populations to drop dramatically for a few centuries.

Regardless of how one models P(t), the population at time t, P(t) may be used to estimate the total number of humans that have lived in a given time period. From a time A to a later time B, the integral of P(t) on [A,B] gives the total number of person-years for that time interval. If one has an estimate of the average lifespan, say 25 years as in Keyfitz's work, the number of people who lived from time A to time B is approximately (1/25) of the integral of P(t) on the [A,B].

Keyfitz assumed that exponential growth occured in various historical time intervals [A, B], but with possibly different constants C and r for each time interval. He chose C and r to match given values of P(t) at A and B. This requires solving two equations in 2 unknowns:

P(A)=C erA
P(B)=C erB
By standard algebra, P(B)/P(A)=er(B-A) and hence r={Ln[P(B)]-Ln[P(A)]}/(B-A). Once r is known, C is obtained immediately from C=P(A)e-rA. Note that Ln is the natural logarithm, the logarithm to the base e.
Keyfitz then integrates Cert on the interval [A,B]. An anti-derivative is (C/r)ert and the definite integral is the anti-derivative at B minus the anti-derivative at A. The total person-years from A to B is (C/r)[erB-erA]. By algebra, this is equal to (1/r)[P(B)-P(A)]. By substituting the value of r described just above,

the total person-years from A to B is [P(B)-P(A)](B-A)/{Ln[P(B)]-Ln[P(A)]}.

This formula is now applied to a system of time intervals from 1,000,000 BC to the present. The sum of the total person-years for all these intervals gives the total person-years for all human life. By dividing by the average lifespan, one obtains an estimate of how many people have ever lived. The data at ends of intervals are taken from a recent textbook on population, except for the first data point of 2 people at -1,000,000. That data point was proposed by Keyfitz.


Year People People-Years Since
Previous Data Point
-1000,000 2 0

-9000 7,500,000 4.91* 1011
0 300,000,000 7.14 * 1011
1650 507,500,000 6.51 * 1011
1750 795,000,000 6.41 * 1010
1800 969,000,000 4.40 * 1010
1850 1,265,000,000 5.55 * 1010
1900 1,656,000,000 7.26 * 1010
1950 2,513,000,000 1.027 * 1011
1960 3,027,000,000 2.76 * 1010
1970 3,678,000,000 3.34 * 1010
1980 4,415,000,000 4.04 * 1010
1990 5,275,000,000 4.83 * 1010
2000 6,199,000,000 5.72 * 1010

The total of the entries of the last column is about 2,402 billion person-years (2,402,000,000,000). If one divides by 25 as an estimate of average lifespan, one estimates that 96,100,000,000 people have lived on the earth.

Here's the link:

http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~ramsey/People.html

In any event, I stand corrected.

[Sava]

Originally posted by MrFun
And do we count all species of humans, including those that went extinct?

I'll transcribe from the book...

During the first two million years of our species' existence, human population grew at a very slow rate, and probably never exceeded 10 million. With the development of agriculture circa 8000 BC, the growth rate began to rise sharply; by the year 1 AD, the world population stood at approximately 250 million.

By 1650, the population had doubled to over 550 million, and within only 200 years, it doubled again, reaching almost 1.2 billion by 1850. Each subsequent doubling has taken about half as long as the previous one: 100 years to reach 2.5 billion, and 40 years to reach 5.2 billion.

Experts have estimated that today's world population of 5.6 billion represents 5.5% of all the people who have ever lived on Earth. *

*Population Today, Population Reference Bureau, Feb 1995

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Sava
I'll transcribe from the book...

During the first two million years of our species' existence, human population grew at a very slow rate, and probably never exceeded 10 million. With the development of agriculture circa 8000 BC, the growth rate began to rise sharply; by the year 1 AD, the world population stood at approximately 250 million.

By 1650, the population had doubled to over 550 million, and within only 200 years, it doubled again, reaching almost 1.2 billion by 1850. Each subsequent doubling has taken about half as long as the previous one: 100 years to reach 2.5 billion, and 40 years to reach 5.2 billion.

Experts have estimated that today's world population of 5.6 billion represents 5.5% of all the people who have ever lived on Earth. *

*Population Today, Population Reference Bureau, Feb 1995

ah, ok

[Sava]

yeah, I was going by memory... but certainly far less than 50%

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by st_swithin
...because gold is the 2nd-most conductive material (just behind platinum) known to man...

Quite nerdy, but incorrect.

As you can see on this page, the metal with the highest electrical conductivity is silver, follow by copper. Gold is decent, platinum sucks.

I would also presume supercoductors have much higher ratings. They have essentially no resistance, thus they approach infinity in conductivity.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by MrFun
You're really grossing me out, man.

Why?

Let me paraphrase Desmond Morris, "It is silly for us to attack insects with insecticides instead of teeth."

[st_swithin]

There has never been an episode of "I Love Lucy" which opens with Ricky saying "Hi honey, I'm home!!"

Ants can lift 10 times their own body mass and carry it more than 1,000 times their own body length.

[Ramo]

Those calculations are crap. Since homo sapiens have only been around for about 100,000-200,000 years (not a million years).

[st_swithin]

Homo stultissimus, however, has been around for 300,000 years.

[The Mad Monk]

You should not use your fireplace, because scientists now believe that, contrary to popular opinion, fireplaces actually remove heat from houses. Really, that's what scientists believe. In fact many scientists actually use their fireplaces to cool their houses in the summer. If you visit a scientist's house on a sultry August day, you'll find a cheerful fire roaring on the hearth and the scientist sitting nearby, remarking on how cool he is and drinking heavily.
-- Dave Barry, "Postpetroleum Guzzler"

[iamlod]

Originally posted by st_swithin
Homo stultissimus, however, has been around for 300,000 years.

....and they, along with their cousins 'Homo Stultior' can still be found today....

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by st_swithin
Ants can lift 10 times their own body mass and carry it more than 1,000 times their own body length.

Yes, but can they pick up a chair by the bottom of one leg with one hand?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Why?

Let me paraphrase Desmond Morris, "It is silly for us to attack insects with insecticides instead of teeth."

Um -- I live in the Western world, not the undeveloped part of the world.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by MrFun
Um -- I live in the Western world, not the undeveloped part of the world.

That's just an excuse

[Japher]

Captain Kirk never said "Beam me up Scotty" on any episode of Star Trek...

he said things like "Beam us up Scotty", "Scotty, beam me up", "Scotty, would you like to beam me?"

butt never those four words in that order that everyone attributes to him...

[Oerdin]

Originally posted by MrFun
And do we count all species of humans, including those that went extinct?

By definition if they are a different species then they aren't human. You must mean other homonids in the same genus.

BTW Have you ever seen a human population growth curve? It grows expentially so it makes perfect sense that today's population of around 6-8 billion (I lost track) is way more then the total population of all Humans since the beginning of recorded time.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Oerdin


By definition if they are a different species then they aren't human. You must mean other homonids in the same genus.

BTW Have you ever seen a human population growth curve? It grows expentially so it makes perfect sense that today's population of around 6-8 billion (I lost track) is way more then the total population of all Humans since the beginning of recorded time.

But unless you count all forms of visual expression, and not exclusively written language, then recorded time would exclude even prehistoric Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

[The Andy-Man]

Originally posted by MrFun


But unless you count all forms of visual expression, and not exclusively written language, then recorded time would exclude even prehistoric Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

ah! but does all this include the pro-perpetaticular homo-erogenous pro-sapien hecto perpendicualr sapiens?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by The Andy-Man


ah! but does all this include the pro-perpetaticular homo-erogenous pro-sapien hecto perpendicualr sapiens?

Zylka gave you some of his "good stuff" didn't he?

[st_swithin]

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[MrFun]

. . . . and we don't give a sh*t!

How about that??

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by PLATO
There are more people alive today than have ever died.

Wholly untrue.

The amount of people alive today is only around 5% of the total human population across all ages of history.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Ramo
Those calculations are crap. Since homo sapiens have only been around for about 100,000-200,000 years (not a million years).

Doesn't really matter. The number of individuals alive until the last 20 000 years or so is an insignificant part of the calculation. Might add a billion or so, but not more...