August 28, 2003, 13:18
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Looks like witches are in season,
you better fly your flag and be aware
of anyone who might fit the description,
diversity is now our biggest fear.
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August 28, 2003, 13:25
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August 28, 2003, 13:26
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Originally posted by Oerdin
The whole "Iraq got their WMD from the US" has become an article of faith for the far left. Facts (more correctly the lack of them) no longer matter to these people. You can try to show them the truth but it is up to them to accept it. 
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http://www.casi.org.uk/info/usdocs/usiraq80s90s.html
educate yourself because you are wrong...
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August 28, 2003, 13:28
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To compare Saddam's cheapo gases and germs to fusion bombs is utterly ridiculous. Yet the article does just that. Pathetic.
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August 28, 2003, 13:29
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You have to remember that people from the Eastern block kinda sorta hate Russia and tend not to be real objective about it.
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August 28, 2003, 14:50
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Originally posted by Defiant
You knew we were coming, get your ruskie asses out of Iraq. And there is no such thing is innocent diplomats from Russia.
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Show me a single innocent diplomat from US and I'll shot myself.
Russian diplomats at least don't broke international law by starting wars of aggression.
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August 28, 2003, 14:52
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Originally posted by The Andy-Man
I am sure the former part of the US the now has the Baku region (for get the name of it) would let em thorugh....
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Americans and geography just can’t come along.
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August 28, 2003, 15:01
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Chegitz, two things.
First you are seriously over exagguarting the rivalry and vandetta between Iran and Iraq, or arab countries in general. The fact that Arafat tried to organize a coup and assassinate the king of Jordan in 1970, didn't stop the Jordanian King from meeting and kissing with him in 1995.
Furthermore their only concrete goal is the evil USA. Iran is just as conserned about the USA being successfull in it's hunt for WMD's and wishes to do what it can to destabilize the situation, even at the price of (oh no!) laying their hands on former Iraqi weapons.
Furthermore - let's not forget the country to which the Russians escaped, and which the US and UK blamed of hosting Iraqi diplomats - Syria.
Yes, did you know that Iraq and Syria had developed rather close ties since 1991? Syria was a channel for circumventing trade barriers. Syria bought stuff, and sold it to Iraq.
And as for the Russians being such close friends with Iraq - do you remember the statue of Saddam that the US Army pulled down? Guess who built it? The Russians, for Saddam's birthday in 1998 iirc.
GePap - I'm surprised at you. I thought you were more serious than that.
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August 28, 2003, 15:04
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
You have to remember that people from the Eastern block kinda sorta hate Russia and tend not to be real objective about it.
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more commie propoganda.
The people of the eastern block hate russia and tend to be very honest and objective about it. Which is exactly why it sounds so harsh. Russia has always been and truly is a real ***** and a devil when it comes to foreign relations.
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August 28, 2003, 15:05
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Originally posted by Sirotnikov
GePap - I'm surprised at you. I thought you were more serious than that.
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Give me something to be serious about and I will: give me an article from Reverand Moon's paper writen by a guy who was in the "know" 30 years ago, what is there to be serious about? Have any of the captured Iraqi leaders, whom one would believe would know all about this sinister plan, made any mention whatsoever of it?
Please, get serious.
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August 28, 2003, 15:07
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Russia has always been and truly is a real ***** and a devil when it comes to foreign relations.
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Yeah, f*ck you too.
and have a nice day.
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August 28, 2003, 15:08
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Originally posted by Serb
Show me a single innocent diplomat from US and I'll shot myself.
Russian diplomats at least don't broke international law by starting wars of aggression.
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Are you kidding me? AFGHANISTAN, POLAND, CZECH, HELL THE WHOLE BALKANS, UKRAINE.
Did you ever hear the term satellite nations, you should USSR invented it. The US doesn't even hold a candle to past Russian wars of aggression.
I didn't say our diplomats were innocent either.
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August 28, 2003, 15:09
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Yeah, f*ck you too.
and have a nice day.
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Hold it, Hold it, lets just have a good discussion.
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August 28, 2003, 15:22
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Give me something to be serious about and I will: give me an article from Reverand Moon's paper writen by a guy who was in the "know" 30 years ago, what is there to be serious about? Have any of the captured Iraqi leaders, whom one would believe would know all about this sinister plan, made any mention whatsoever of it?
Please, get serious.
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How about Iraqis showing parts of nuclear equipment burried? How about Iraqis showing parts of airplanes burries (not so effectively) ?
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Yeah, f*ck you too.
and have a nice day.
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First let me clear it that I'm not Panag and I'm not associated with him. He annoys me too at times.
Second, what do you want me to say? Russia is and was a foreign relations biach. nothing compares to the number of agents it converted in the foreign media and politics. Nothing compares to it's huge endeavor in universities world wide in communist lobbies.
Hell, I wish Israel was half as good at making these crazy ploys as you guys are.
I mean sure, we ain't bad at wasting people. But we don't make as good use of the living as you are.
And btw, chico, don't be mad at me. My source of knowledge comes from my parents, and native-ruski news and intelligence sites. (as well as sites such as FAS and others)
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August 28, 2003, 15:32
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
You have to remember that people from the Eastern block kinda sorta hate Russia...
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you can't really blame them though can you
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August 28, 2003, 15:51
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please don't insinuate that i am an american.
so i forgot that jurdistan was in the way, sue me
AND I AM NOT AMERICAN!!! 
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August 28, 2003, 15:55
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Originally posted by Serb
Russian diplomats at least don't broke international law by starting wars of aggression.
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Liar.
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August 28, 2003, 15:56
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Originally posted by The Andy-Man
AND I AM NOT AMERICAN!!!
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That's your problem! 
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August 28, 2003, 15:57
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All chemical weapons were to be immediately burned or buried deep at sea.
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If that's what you call 'hiding', I'd love to know what you consider destroying to be.
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August 28, 2003, 16:00
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August 28, 2003, 16:01
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I have to say Putin looks a little like Bush there on a profile.
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August 28, 2003, 16:02
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Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
GLORY TO RUSSIA!!!!
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It needs all the help it can get being the basket case it is.
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August 28, 2003, 16:03
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Originally posted by Defiant
I have to say Putin looks a little like Bush there on a profile.
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How dare you! Putin is an angel!!!!
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August 28, 2003, 16:05
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Originally posted by Defiant
Are you kidding me? AFGHANISTAN, POLAND, CZECH, HELL THE WHOLE BALKANS, UKRAINE.
Did you ever hear the term satellite nations, you should USSR invented it. The US doesn't even hold a candle to past Russian wars of aggression.
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Well, that candle is kinda more like a holocaust. The United States has invaded, intervened in, or overthrown approximately seven times the number of countries the USSR has, and that's just from 1945 - 1991.
The Soviets were invited in to Afganistan, so it doesn't count as an invasion. The Ukraine doesn't count, either, as it was never a recognized country by anyone except, for a brief time, the Bolsheviks, before the Germans took it over. Poland attacked the USSR in 1919, and in 1939 the USSR was merely reclaiming what they had lost to Poland in 1920. In 1945 they were driving ou the Nazis, or do you think they should have stopped at the Polish border and let the US carry on the burden of ridding the world of the Nazis alone?
That leaves the "whole Balkans," which apparently doesn't include Greece, Albania, or Yugoslavia.  Finally, Czechoslovakia. Yeah, that sucked, but they din't have any other viable option, given that the whole point of the Warsaw Pact was to make sure that no enemy would be directly on their European border again. Having ben invaded twice in twenty years, and the shotgun nuclear diplomacy by the US, the Soviets had no small reason to be paranoid.
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August 28, 2003, 16:12
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Are you and I reading the same history books?, "Invited to Afghanistan", man, you and I are not even on the same roadmap.
America's aggression, are you including Germany twice, Japan and Italy? Also when we won France back for the people of France?
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August 28, 2003, 16:14
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Poland attacked the USSR in 1919, and in 1939 the USSR was merely reclaiming what they had lost to Poland in 1920.
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How does that change the fact that it was an aggressive and unprovoked war?
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August 28, 2003, 16:16
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Tass:  
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I have to say Putin looks a little like Bush there on a profile
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So does Thomas Jefferson
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August 28, 2003, 16:18
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Are you and I reading the same history books?, "Invited to Afghanistan", man, you and I are not even on the same roadmap.
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I doubt you are reading history books at all, actually. Yes, the left-leaning government of Afganistan asked for help in 1979 because of an uprising by feudo-clearical reactionaries who were opposed to the freedoms being enacted for women. An uprising which was then funded by the US, about six months before the USSR came in.
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America's aggression, are you including Germany twice, Japan and Italy? Also when we won France back for the people of France?
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What part of "1945 - 1991" don't you understand?
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August 28, 2003, 16:19
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Poland attacked the USSR in 1919, and in 1939 the USSR was merely reclaiming what they had lost to Poland in 1920.
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How does that change the fact that it was an aggressive and unprovoked war?
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Got me there. 
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August 28, 2003, 16:20
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How about Iraqis showing parts of nuclear equipment burried? How about Iraqis showing parts of airplanes burries (not so effectively) ?
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And the fact that those are the only things to have come up work against this whole article, speically given that the nuclear component was burried in 1991, not at any time after.
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