Words of wisdom

BustaMike · August 29, 2003, 21:54

I'm sorry... I just couldn't resist. I sent blockhead a very polite and humble email asking him to teach me to play better

Here you go. I don't think I need to point out the flaws, but lets just say I disagree with most of this. Judge for yourself.

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the main strategy is to not build SPs and especialy do not try to get
any certain project
it's better to give money into other things, because most SPs does
not give such big advantage that is worth of wasting money
especaily on MP, if you see you could get the project you even set 80-
100% to econ but you dont have to get that project, so it's just
wasting
you have to thing that SPs are just bonuses

building project almost all depends on the faction you are playing
i will name only important projects, others are really just bonuses

ascetic virutes:
that's not important but i found interesting to build it with hive
(police +3 = double effect) or with planet cult (1 extra mil. unit,
but worms do double police)

clinic immortality:
you just have to take care to someone else do not have enough votes
for victory

cloning vats:
important only for aki-zeta

, other's faction have lot of nutrients
or can run planned or golden age

cloudbase academy:
not so important, but you have to be good enough to build aerospace
c. yourself

dream twister:
for green, later in game surely important

empath guild:
it's only important when you cant get commlinks (very rare) or for
votes (victory)

human genome:
this project is vasting, i think it's only good for peackeepers
better than to pay money for this buy recreation commons in each base

merchant exchange:
it's only good for strategy with crawlers

network backbone, supercolider, theory of everything:
only if you play special strategy and research boosting 1-2 bases

neural amp, xenoempathy dome:
these projects are a must for green factions

pholus mutagen:
this is not a must but very good for green

planetary energy grid:
this is a must for morgan

planetary transit system:
this is good for deidre or if you have LOT of bases for reducing
drones

space elevator:
you have to take care of drops, but you will see if it does matter or
not

virtual world:
very important for university, but for others it's usualywasting

weather paradigm:
only for hardcore teraforming (you dont need it for building forests)

so i will name some strategies
morgan: you dont have to build a lot cities, just 12 on standard map
is good enough, go to tree farms and then build planetary energy grid
and when these cities expand, you can build more of them; it's good
to spend money to fewer cities and not wasting on new ones (to limit
drones)
you build: 1 SP

deidre,planet cult: you have to start building xeno project quite
early, because you will not have money to buy it, after researching
centauri meditation you have to go after tree farms and then for
neural amp
you build: 2 SPs

deidre: you do not expect to make war, so you go after PTS first -
for deidre it's great because the cities will not fall down from 3
(becuase you have enough nutrients on fungus) and then it's up to you
(but xeno and neural amp is strongly recommended)
you build: 1-3 SP

university: virutal world is a must, then it's wise to go for
supercolider and boost 1 city, even building merchant exchange and
crawlers in that city is very good, then go for tree farms and then
theory of everything to make another boost
you build: 1-4 projects

pirates:
you need planetary energy grid, because with low minerals you must
buy a lot, it's nice to get ascetic virutes because you will have
place to have lot of energy from water
you build: 1-2 projects

peacekeepers:
build human genome, you can big bases without special facilities
build empath guild and you will be always governor

you build: 1-2 projects

hive:
as i said it's interesting to get ascetic virutes and +3 police, but
i never tried that

as you can see you usualy build 1-2 projects and i say that's enough
it is more efficient to put effort to building facilities than to
waste on projects

people are just obsessed with building projects instead of doing
something more meaningful

blockhead

BustaMike · August 29, 2003, 21:55

I think this is my favorite part, as these are generally regarded as two of the absolutely most powerful SP's.

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cloning vats:
important only for aki-zeta , other's faction have lot of nutrients
or can run planned or golden age

cloudbase academy:
not so important, but you have to be good enough to build aerospace
c. yourself

Lazerus · August 29, 2003, 22:01

.... I dont know where to start

i wonder if his empire involves 6 bases and so he feels these sp's that give something free at every base are worthless, he should try playing ICS where you've got 100+ bases to contend with.

RedFred · August 30, 2003, 01:18

My advice... be careful taking advice a blockhead.

I'll continue to plug Vel's strat guide. Not only is it full of good advice, it has the added benefit of being written in comprehensible English.

TheRedmenace · August 30, 2003, 04:01

I don't know exactly why he would sace that the 'CB' is not so important. I played him in a game a week or so ago, and I was able to steal his tech and rush build it in the same turn as he did because we were on simultaneous moves. He then insisted that I cheated because I took advantage of the agreed upon rules (simul-turns), and demanded we replay the turn so that he could get Cloudbase or he would quit.

Not that important my pasty white arse.

Lazerus · August 30, 2003, 08:25

maybe he just wants to make all other players really stupid so then his average play will be the best ?

Jamski · August 30, 2003, 10:31

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empath guild:
it's only important when you cant get commlinks (very rare) or for
votes (victory)

And the huge amount of cash from being governor? And the infilteration?

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human genome:
this project is vasting, i think it's only good for peackeepers
better than to pay money for this buy recreation commons in each base

Only good for the Peacekeepers eh? This SP is great for everyone, just double great for Lal. And who said anything about paying money for it? I almost never pay money for an SP...

etc etc...

Flubber's going to get all the SPs in this game then

-Jam

Ogie Oglethorpe · September 3, 2003, 08:48

A real gem, Busta.

LOL.....

Alinestra Covelia · September 4, 2003, 11:55

All right guys this isn't funny anymore. Any further insults against blockhead will be reported immediately to the police as cruelty towards a dumb animal.

BustaMike · September 4, 2003, 13:25

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Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
All right guys this isn't funny anymore. Any further insults against blockhead will be reported immediately to the police as cruelty towards a dumb animal.

Ali... this post was from the same day he showed up, so it isn't exactly new, but I agree... what was initially funny is now kinda stale, at least for me

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HeymlicH · September 20, 2003, 09:21

good advice. Most people pay too much attention to the SP's. I always try to build all of them, but I can afford this

, and I wouldn't consider it in a multiplayer game.
There is only one point where I disagree:

"human genome:
this project is vasting, i think it's only good for peackeepers"

"peacekeepers:
build human genome, you can big bases without special facilities
build empath guild and you will be always governor
you build: 1-2 projects"

Lal has +2 population, so he can have size 9 cities without improvements. In a size 9 city Lal gets 3 extra talents. This basically means, he has a built-in HGP. I would say Lal is the one who needs HGP least.
Of cause, this doesn't apply to large empires where the -1 efficiency count for extra drones. But Lal is not the typical expansionist

Alinestra Covelia · September 20, 2003, 10:07

I think people here failed to see the irony in my "dumb animal cruelty" post about blockhead.

The man's an idiot.

Please, feel free to torment him as richly as he deserves.

Mr. President · September 21, 2003, 03:07

Forgive my ignorance, but who or what is blockhead?

Adalbertus · September 21, 2003, 05:42

Blockhead was an episode of a poster who probably set a new record in the discipline "shortest time between registering and restricting". The thread shouldn't have gone too far down in history.

Edit: He posted in the thread Hate roads - what are they good for?

Pandir · September 21, 2003, 06:03

I know I shouldnt make fun but he just makes it so easy.

Lazerus · September 21, 2003, 06:47

He should be unblocked by now right ? wonder if he's gonna bother coming back

Scytale · September 21, 2003, 13:24

I should say that the human brain is a massive neural net, thus it "learns" how to play SMAC by perceiving patterns. If a guy, blockhead or not, starts playing outside these normal patterns it doesn't mean that he's a bad SMAC player. His brain just works in a different way.

CEO Aaron · September 21, 2003, 13:38

Look, the reason he gets made fun of isn't because of the lameness of his SMAC mastery, but the incredible combination of rudeness and stupidity with which he purports his insupportable opinions. Being wrong is forgivable, being a jerk is tolerable, but being both is just too much.

Flubber · September 21, 2003, 14:41

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Originally posted by Lazerus
He should be unblocked by now right ? wonder if he's gonna bother coming back

Nope-- the word from Ming was that all he had to do was indicate he would stop with the insults. Apparently he refused and got righteous with MIng since Ming sent him a personal message when blockhead had the feature turned off or something.

OH and ceoaaron has it right. I know I am often wrong but I try never to be a jerk about it. The hate roads thread was funny . . . I only wish we could have played the game

Adalbertus · September 21, 2003, 15:40

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I should say that the human brain is a massive neural net, thus it "learns" how to play SMAC by perceiving patterns. If a guy, blockhead or not, starts playing outside these normal patterns it doesn't mean that he's a bad SMAC player. His brain just works in a different way.

He had the chance to show that his different approach is successful. But some people start attacking reality (or gameplay, for that matter) if it doesn't adapt to their brain ...

Scytale · September 22, 2003, 08:39

I believe the blurb for the Bioenhancement Center would respond to your post, Adalbertus.

Mead · September 22, 2003, 13:44

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Originally posted by Crimson Sunrise
Forgive my ignorance, but who or what is blockhead?

I originally posted this in another Thread - (People plant their bases too early! (I am the best SMAC player)), but since I think it may help to understand who Blockhead was I'll repeat it here:

Vev's not really serious. He is doing a parody of a poster [Blockhead] in another Thread who, before his [Blockhead's] suspension from Apolyton, was either pretending to or was actually experiencing symptoms, best explained by the medical text DSM IV.

Mead

UnityScoutChopper · September 26, 2003, 05:47

DSM IV?

Mead · September 26, 2003, 10:43

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Originally posted by UnityScoutChopper
DSM IV?

Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders - Fourth Edition (DSM-IV), published by the American Psychiatric Association, Washington D.C., 1994, the main diagnostic reference of Mental Health professionals in the United States of America.