September 7, 2003, 18:00
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There are no other Apolytoners that have any significant milestone every year on 9/11?
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September 7, 2003, 18:01
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nope
I got out of the military on 9/9/99. That's as close as I come.
9/11 is a meaningless day to me
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September 7, 2003, 19:04
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Yeah, right.
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Show me where lame ass. All I've posted in this thread was a sarcastic response to Michael's Allende troll (which isn't even on topic) and a regular response to the observations about fear of commercial aircraft.
In what diseased, mentally incompetent universe does this count as a troll?
And if I'd really wanted to troll this thread I would have said something really offensive.
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September 7, 2003, 19:18
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Interesting how there are those in this thread who wish death upon people who they disagree with. THAT reminds me of Sep11.
Anyway, Sep11 at first changed me quite a bit but then I reverted back to myself. At first I was very sorrowful, etc etc...However eventually logic set in. The logic that this was simply a small spec in the larger picture was undeniable. Maybe this was a much more grand death than others but it still was only a small speck.
I largely saw Sep11 as a sign of the violent aftereffects of US foreign policy and began to fear that the same mistakes would be made due to this event.
I gave a lot of blood and made a few donations. But really the only change Sep11 permanently caused in me was made me even more left wing.
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September 8, 2003, 00:04
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Not always on 9/11, but this year it coincides with lunar 8/15: the Mid Autumn (Moon) Festival.
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September 8, 2003, 00:36
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In the past decade, millions of Congolese have died due to the civil wars there, including starvation, epidemics and so forth as a result of those wars of course...
it seems to me as: either that everybody is equal on this earth, but an american is more equal than an african.. or the good old 'one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic' ...
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Yes, because terrorists flying into skyscrapers with passenger jets is JUST as common as wars on the continent of Africa  . Can you please calculate the odds on both?
The reason it matters is because of how shocking and abrupt it was, not because you are looking for how Americans are racist, you moron!
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September 8, 2003, 00:41
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I don't think he was saying that americans are racist, only that americans are only concerned by what happens to america. Example, the european heat wave.
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September 8, 2003, 00:45
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why should we care about the eurocom heat wave
eurocoms didn't care about ours
nor should they
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September 8, 2003, 00:48
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I don't think he was saying that americans are racist, only that americans are only concerned by what happens to america.
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Well saying the 'more equal' comment is very close to claiming racism. Why shouldn't Americans be concerned with the people in their country though? They are much more identifiable.
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September 8, 2003, 00:48
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The reason it matters is because of how shocking and abrupt it was, not because you are looking for how Americans are racist, you moron
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I don't think he was saying that americans are racist, only that americans are only concerned by what happens to america
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9/11 changed things for everyone, directly or indirectly. The effect of the Congolese civil war, the effect of Rwanda genocide, the effect of countless other greater tragedies have little to no effect on our lives, they are regional affairs. The US is not a regional power, it is an integral part of world politics and economics and is the strongest military in the world. That is why 9/11 is more important to the population of the world than events in Africa. Right or wrong that may be, it is.
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September 8, 2003, 00:49
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Well said
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September 8, 2003, 01:03
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How did this thread attract so many trolls?
/me looks suspiciously at Tass
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September 8, 2003, 01:11
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I just saw fat americans running because of a bomb scare at some airport in Florida.
Who says that 9/11 hasn't had a positive effect on america? It encourage people to run.
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September 8, 2003, 02:01
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Originally posted by Dissident
I just saw fat americans running because of a bomb scare at some airport in Florida.
Who says that 9/11 hasn't had a positive effect on america? It encourage people to run.
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I apologise profusely for my insensitivity, but I  ed when I read that.
Mind you, I ain't thin...
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September 8, 2003, 02:02
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These colors don't run mf'ers.
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September 8, 2003, 08:57
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sigh
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September 8, 2003, 09:27
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It didn't change me save for one thing: it made me more curious of the American mentality. I'm much less prone to mindless American-bashing than I was (but I'm much more professional when I do bash  )
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September 8, 2003, 09:35
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And it's 11/9 damn it!
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September 8, 2003, 09:37
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Originally posted by Kropotkin
And it's 11/9 damn it!
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September 8, 2003, 09:58
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I lost something that day, a feeling of American invulnerability. Maybe that was a good thing, but massacring 3,000 people, most of them innocent, to do it was evil. I had always assumed that the terrorists just wouldn't hit us on our home soil, partly because almost everyone likes us as a people, even if our government and corporations are loathed globally, and partly just cuz no one would dare (ofrgetting they tried in '93).
There was a unique moment in history created by this attrocity. A moment when humanity came together and we were all united by grief and horror. Almost everyone everwhere was an American that day. Too bad it couldn't have lasted.
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September 8, 2003, 09:59
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nice thoughts, Chegitz
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September 8, 2003, 11:45
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I lost something that day, a feeling of American invulnerability. Maybe that was a good thing, but massacring 3,000 people, most of them innocent, to do it was evil. I had always assumed that the terrorists just wouldn't hit us on our home soil, partly because almost everyone likes us as a people, even if our government and corporations are loathed globally, and partly just cuz no one would dare (ofrgetting they tried in '93).
There was a unique moment in history created by this attrocity. A moment when humanity came together and we were all united by grief and horror. Almost everyone everwhere was an American that day. Too bad it couldn't have lasted.
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on that day america's seemingly invunerable status was proven to be fake, but our greatest strength shined through brighter than ever.
E Pluribus Unum.
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September 8, 2003, 11:47
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oh, and about the "most of them innocent", were there any statistics taken on this? were any of them guilty of anything that could even remotely be constrewed as violence towards the middle east?
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September 8, 2003, 15:20
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Allende was an incompetent moron.
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Still better than Nixon.
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September 8, 2003, 16:10
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Originally posted by Kropotkin
And it's 11/9 damn it!
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What happened on November 9th?
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September 8, 2003, 16:12
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The Berlin Wall was opened
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September 8, 2003, 16:12
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No, it's you americans that don't know the proper way of things.
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September 8, 2003, 16:16
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BeBro: That's a day worthy of rememberance! Thanks for mentioning it Krop.
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September 8, 2003, 16:20
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Originally posted by Kirnwaffen
I've enlisted in the army for a period of 4 years beginning June 8 of next year. I'll begin in the infantry, with the eventual goal of making it into special forces. It's sort of my way of giving back for the opportunities I've been given, and hopefully helping to prevent future attacks.
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good luck
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September 8, 2003, 16:27
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One of my boss' (Director of Manufacturing) has 9/11 for his birthday... We are having a pot luck for him on Thrusday.
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